A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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There's also the issue that we don't really have a unified calendar yet. Westeros uses After Conquest, but that makes no sense for other places. Yi-Ti likely counts from when a dynasty was established. The Valyrian cities likely still use what Valyria used, or started to count After Doom if Valyria used something that is no longer applicable.
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Since we have now the ability to make sane Undead, would he consider a Fire-Souled Death Knight?
Edit: I do not do this to boost his Intimidate to ridiculous levels, but it is a nice side-effect.
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To be fair, that would get around his oath...
That would be a hell of a temptation yeah.
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Not quite the intend, though it can be interpreted that way once the Nightwatch has no need of him anymore.
For now someone right on the edge between "long-time member of the Watch" and "trained in SD and loyal to the Targs" is valuable to have there, to ensure smoother cooperation between the old guard and our reinforcements.
Another reason to boost his Charisma to levels he has never dreamed of.
Although thinking of it, is the Death Knight's fear aura something they can turn off? Because otherwise it is rather hard to integrate into society what with all the screaming and gibbering.
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@DragonParadox, what sentient undead can we actually make without further research? Everything we got Create spells for obviously lile Qyburn Variant Mummys, but what about Vampires?
Abd how much progress do we need for Dread Mummy and Dread Sayona, or can we already make those? I always just assumed we need to research them, but never actually asked.
Abd how much progress do we need for Dread Mummy and Dread Sayona, or can we already make those? I always just assumed we need to research them, but never actually asked.
- You can make Vampires working off Wyla's blood and notes
- 25 Progress each for the dread undead
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Eh. He can wait a month to be risen as the first Dread Sayona. All the combat buffs. None of the bad skin and hair.
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Shouldn't there be some work in making an entirely different kind of Vampire from the kind Wyla was?
Sayona, Nosferatu, the asian variants, etc...
Not as much progress needed as a fully new kind of Undead, but some.
egoo
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There was a number of Vampire templates we opened for research, but only the Psychic variant was of any interest so I don't have those other saved.
Will have to look up, DP gave Progress numbers and all.
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See above. 25 for Dread Sayona. I didn't ask about any other variants. Just the baseline vampire.
egoo
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Hm, actually, nevermind that, my memory of 2-year-old events is faulty.
DP never gave Progress numbers on any other beyond the Psychic.
DP never gave Progress numbers on any other beyond the Psychic.
Then in PMs:
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Night's Counsel
Thirtieth Day of the Fourth Month 294 AC
Although grand was the hour and loud the silvered trumpets singing it, the work of Empire did not slow, the clink of coin and the clank of abacuses bearings, the soft hiss of paper being laid all in its place. The task of a scribe was never done, that much had been known from time out of mind, when men still carved tallies upon stone and pressed letters into soft clay, but in the newly named Imperium, whose wheels of state still ran in the same groves that had been worn in months and years past, that was a hundred times truer, or perhaps a thousand time. That was a matter of debate between those who worked in the growing apparatus of governance and those who served the Emperor's Companies under the banner of the Red Scales.
There was a jest making the rounds told in hushed whispers over sly smiles that he really aught to change his banner from a three-headed dragon to a pair of crimson scales. After all, the Empire would have plenty of wings in the sky even if every dragon bar one fell dead from it, but even Emperor Viserys, First of His Name, could not replace thousands of clerks and scribes who ensured that payments were made and profits gathered.
For once the Emperor was not spending the last day of the month looking over figures and judging profits, but one might almost feel him in spirit in the main offices of Red Scales, the purring satisfaction of a wyrm beholding his growing hoard, wrought not of gold, silver, or precious things lying in some forgotten mount, but of the gathered worth of an economy in motion.
Astral Currents Stock Exchange Company grows 14% (Regular growth)
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In shadowed halls, far more arcane other tallies were being made, no less important to the realm for all the numbers were far lower, for these would be the mages who would set out to guard the realm from fiends and timeless horrors, from traitors and proscribed cultists, though many of course would need some seasoning, before they would be sent out. Not many of those mages just setting off upon the path would believe that the Dragon who rules over other dragons, the king and now the Emperor, had once faced the world with barely enough magic to kindle fire and soothe a suspicious mind, but some were there who looked up to the heavens and the flames writ upon it not only with awe, but ambition also.
| FINAL TABLE | ||||||
| Class\Level | 1,00 | 2,00 | 3,00 | 4,00 | 5,00 | 6,00 |
| Hedge Mage | 761,45 | 388,64 | 103,91 | 32,26 | 23,78 | 7,96 |
| Adept | 624,92 | 374,72 | 108,56 | 11,64 | 20,45 | n/a |
| Wizard | 114,312837225043 | 70,63 | 30,98 | 15,67 | 15,46 | n/a |
| Archivist | 95,55 | 67,30 | 26,66 | 10,65 | 3,08 | n/a |
| Cleric | 80,04 | 35,17 | 6,78 | 0,93 | 0,08 | n/a |
| Mystic | 104,18 | 71,91 | 32,41 | 10,96 | 2,73 | 1,82 |
| Druid | 65,09 | 33,90 | 5,59 | 0,41 | 0,02 | n/a |
| Sorcerer (battle) | 59,98 | 45,67 | 21,67 | 8,10 | 3,46 | 20,12 |
| Sorcerer (enchanter) | 60,04 | 44,86 | 25,82 | 15,76 | 19,52 | 15,98 |
| Bard | 97,61 | 59,70 | 17,79 | 4,84 | 0,95 | n/a |
| Duskblade | 82,58 | 46,63 | 14,18 | 3,17 | 0,41 | n/a |
| Hexblade | 64,18 | 0,00 | 1,55 | 5,78 | 0,86 | n/a |
| Alchemist | 80,49 | 44,98 | 14,80 | 2,54 | 1,90 | n/a |
| Alchemist (Herbalist) | 56,48 | 0,00 | 0,00 | 0,00 | 0,00 | n/a |
| Ranger | 32,85 | 22,40 | 5,81 | 0,86 | 0,07 | n/a |
| Hunter | 32,72 | 15,62 | 5,95 | 1,50 | 0,20 | n/a |
| Magewright | 562,00 | 0,00 | 0,00 | 0,00 | 0,00 | n/a |
Teach a man to hold a sword and they suddenly think they are a knight, teach them to bend reality to their whims and they think they are gods in the making, thought Ser Alliser Thorne, master-at-arms of the Night's Watch, as he considered the men he would be taking with him back to the Wall. Two sorcerers who could throw a handful of fire, a singer who could hold a healing tune and him the most skilled of the lot for the fact that he had not been a fool and given up his sword to pick up sorcery. The bloody Queen could wipe the floor with the lot of them, or scatter their ashes as the case might be.
Not that he had nothing against the woman, far from it. If anyone deserved a good life it was her, but it rankled him something fierce that the insult he had shouted so many times over a snowy field would now be true of the men he had brought here to train, hells, even him. A lady could beat you black and blue with her fan...
It was a lady with a fiddle this time around, but it came down to the same thing. He could be down there feasting, the night would hide the color of his cloak well enough, and the wine would still the tongues of those who might think ill of the choice, but Ser Alliser Thorne did not want to be tolerated, he did not want their pity nor their sympathy. He was honest enough to know he too craved greatness as much as any peasant's brat with shit still on their heels to walk through the tower's shadow.
- 1x Duskblade level 5 (Ser Alliser Throne)
- 2x Wizards Level 3
- 1x Bard Level 3
A raven that was no common bird perched on the bench beside him and cawed curiously. The feathers looked oddly soft in the soft blue light of the lantern swaying overhead. They were forging these better and better. "Why do you sit in the dark when there is such light close by? Are not you and your kin drawn to it?" the 'bird' asked in harsh voice.
The Black Brother was not sure what moved him to speak then, "Because I am neither of one feather or another and soon to be forgotten on a frozen perch save for the lists and honors no one reads. It will be all the armies of the south that fight the war for Dawn, dragons, sorcerers, and ships of the sky. What worth is an oath that is..." he had to struggle to recall the word that fit the feeling, for it was not Common nor even Low Valyrian, but in the grinding tongue of stone which some of the craftsmen of the Deep had taken for their own. "Obsolete." Like a blade too worn out to be worth sharpening...
For a long moment the bird stood there in eerie silence, its beady eyes fixed on the knight. "There is more than one way to sharpen a blade, if you would dare it. Go thee further south into the steaming land of Gogossos and there seek those who mold flesh like clay and ask for the use of their arts."
Before Alliser could gather his wits from the fact that the bird had read his damn mind, it was gone in a flurry of feathers.
OOC: Being sick may not be a good mood to write a triumph in, but the headspace of a man who feels he is bound of obscurity and failure flowed fine. In case you are wondering, that was not a Three-Eyed Raven, but rather the original inspiration for them doing a bit of mysterious mentoring. He will also pay for any grafts and templates Aliser wants up to +3 CR. This is partly because he sympathies with Thorne and partly because he wants to make flesh-smithing more common among those favored by the Throne. Not everyone wants or can afford to become a Praetorian, but having a significant portion of the elites of the realm take up other improvements gives Viserys one more leaver over them and it also makes them more useful on a battlefield.
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Why don't we do something a bit different and grow him a new, younger body with the Quickling template? The faster aging can be mitigated easily enough in the coming years, or he can be swapped into a non-Quickling body later on when it's time for him to retire, if he wishes.
It's a really good template that we haven't made much use of yet. Quickling would also work very well with Alliser's new Duskblade class.
I don't have an issue using Soul-forged Undead against the Others now that we've got the process refined and tested to the point that we know they can't exercise undue control over them, but I really don't think it's a good idea to try to station one of them at the Wall itself. That's just asking for unforeseen trouble, IMO.
If we do go the Undead route with him, then it should be considered an end to his service with the Night's Watch entirely, given that his life will have technically ended.
It's a really good template that we haven't made much use of yet. Quickling would also work very well with Alliser's new Duskblade class.
I don't have an issue using Soul-forged Undead against the Others now that we've got the process refined and tested to the point that we know they can't exercise undue control over them, but I really don't think it's a good idea to try to station one of them at the Wall itself. That's just asking for unforeseen trouble, IMO.
If we do go the Undead route with him, then it should be considered an end to his service with the Night's Watch entirely, given that his life will have technically ended.
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I'm not a fan of giving Quickling to PCs since it's an immensely powerful template. That we use it rarely is a good thing in my book.
And yeah, if we turn him into an undead, then we should retire him from the Night Watch on the technicality of him being dead.
The simplest and most straightforward upgrade would be to make him a Praetori.
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Praetorian would be fine with me, too. Solid choice that would work well for him.
I'll answer stuff in a bit when my head stops pounding. can't focus right now.
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Take it easy for the day, dude. The quest can keep for a while.
Here are some more from the last big speech.
Okay, based on that and his character sheet it looks like he has space for some stuff.
Devil's Ego for a +4 profane bonus to charisma
Righteous Aura for a +4 sacred bonus to charisma
Divine Presence for a +5 sacred bonus to intimidate people who don't worship our deity (presumably Viserys himself) increasing to +10 against people who have one alignment in opposition to the caster, and +15 for those with two.
Improvisation for a floating luck pool. We have luck bonuses already, but they seem to mostly be one offs. This spell would provide a pool of 2 luck points/CL which can be spent to provide a bonus equal to the points used on attack rolls , skill checks, and ability checks. You can't spend more than half your CL in points on any one check, but that's still a hell of a bump if it's needed.
Other useful effects:
Crown of Glory - for 1 minute/CL it grants you a 10 ft/CL aura of celestial authority. Anyone with less than 8 levels/HD must stop what they're doing and face you. Your words are treated like suggestion spells and a telepathic communication effect ensures they understand you even if you don't share a language with them. Note that it is an evocation spell with a good subtype and not an illusion or enchantment spell with a mind effecting one, so it arguably shouldn't be blocked by most standard mental defenses.
Adoration of the Frightful - this ones just for laughs. It lets you translate fear statuses into friendly attitudes for the duration of the spell, which is hilarious but probably not appropriate for the public audience. Might be useful for the follow up meetings though.
overall, that's another +4 to all Viserys' social checks, followed by a pair of luck bonuses somewhere north of +10 with CL buffs.
Which means that if Viserys wants to intimidate a CE asshole who doesn't worship him as a god then he could slap something north of +27 on top of his existing intimidate check.
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I think we never did the research needed to mix and match graft types, even though Praetori use different types. So I'm not sure if regular grafts can be mixed.
Undead grafts allow for a decent suit of Enervating Arm, Paralysing Arm and Undead Skin, giving him 25% fortification, +8 STR and teo special attacks. Eye of Flame is also nice, since it deals half Fire and half Divine damage.
Undead grafts allow for a decent suit of Enervating Arm, Paralysing Arm and Undead Skin, giving him 25% fortification, +8 STR and teo special attacks. Eye of Flame is also nice, since it deals half Fire and half Divine damage.
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Are all the planned interludes completed, @DragonParadox
OK am now able to think in numbers again.
Not yet.
- You get vampire opened automatically
- The spawn are 10 research a pop
- Jiangh-Shi are 24 Progress
Not yet.
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Added Devils Ego and Righteous Aura because having both Sacred and Profane CHA bonuses is hilarious.
Also added Adoration of the Frightful, since it would really help us to convert unmitigated terror into awe.