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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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What we really need is more positive PR, and to get it we need action. The Lads are a good example, they run around doing good things in our name. We need more people like them. All these prospective loyalist lords we've been gathering should be able to help support some new groups.

Though using True Speech for propaganda is an amazing idea on it's own right.
 
mrsean22 said:
But we need a version that we want to be out there right? If Viserys supports a version that will get support and after everything thing is done to calm things down. Might as well support one that works for us.
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No the idea is to keep them split.
Even after things have calmed down we should keep several non-offensive versions of the Faith running without giving one a particular advantage.
 
mrsean22 said:
But we need a version that we want to be out there right? If Viserys supports a version that will get support and after everything thing is done to calm things down. Might as well support one that works for us.
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There are a couple versions out already. Hence the faith conclave next month to sort that out. Our plan is to do damage there to keep on splintering the faith. Viserys supporting one faith more than building a temple makes it seem like he is siding with one orthodoxy and interpretation. Our plan is to make it so that there are many interpretations.
 
Azel said:
My continued issue is that we are unable to reach the masses in Westeros while having to accept that our enemies can do so trivially. The whole "Rhaella is proof of devilry!"-plot hinges on that very idea, that they can spread whatever bullshit they want and we can't do anything to counter it.
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In Westeros, it's the Faith versus the Dread Sorcerer. No wonder a lot of people listen to the former. That's why I thought working on a schism was a brilliant idea, but it will take time - protestants and catholic church come to (my) mind.
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@Goldfish, how much did we calculate in cost per broadsheet? Something like 1 IM for 50 or so?
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Could we put the magic into the ink used for the broadsheets?
 
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Hmm with the propoganda being readable by all and being spread as it will...It will affect people's perceptions on deities also. We can spread messages across the lands on different interpretations and by doing so speed up the differing views in the public quicker correct?
 
We still need to deal with the Golden company people trying to frame us at the Faith meeting.

What's the plan for the Faith meeting anyway? Yes we are trying to make multiple Faith's but what are we doing in detail?

Maybe go there as a knight to speak up a certain version while some of other people say different versions?
 
...Shall we add Truespeech effect on our mirrors as well?
Would that even be possible, to add one onto the reciever-mirror and have such translated signal be relayed to every other mirror?
 
Azel said:
Hm...

@DragonParadox, does 1 IM per True Speech Broadsheet sound fair?
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So that would make the book the archons printed be worth about 300ish IM. That sounds about right.

You are going to have to get a codex archon to poke your printing press though. Right now their ritual is strictly manual. On the other hand it is a very robust piece of magic so I would say it would be a 20 progress research project that can be taken by anyone with decent arcana (or you can just leave Naeron to do it by himself).
 
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egoo said:
...Shall we add Truespeech effect on our mirrors as well?
Would that even be possible, to add one onto the reciever-mirror and have such translated signal be relayed to every other mirror?
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I would wager that a universal translator will be a bit more costly then making a page of fixed text comprehensible. You would effectively have to run everything side through a Tongues spell.

Would be better to just cast Tongues on the speakers.
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So that would make the book the archons printed be worth about 300ish IM. That sounds about right.

You are going to have to get a codex archon to poke your printing press though. Right now heir ritual i strictly manual. On the other hand it is a very robust piece of magic so I would say it would be a 20 progress research project that can be taken by anyone with decent arcana (or you can just leave Naeron to do it by himself).
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Wow, 20 research? o_O

Our project to turn a Archdevil into a Evil-Factory takes only 25.

What would Naeron doing it himself mean? That he rituals up all the sheets we make or that he slowly researches this or...?
 
Azel said:
Wow, 20 research? o_O

Our project to turn a Archdevil into a Evil-Factory takes only 25.
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Actually, this seems to be an actual problem there at my list.
Many actions seem to have somewhat random amount of Success required as a condition :/
[] Research the Living Spells you've captured at Lys.
-[] Find a method to keep them docile at all times (Progress - ??)
-[] Find a method to increase their population
--[] Tiered research (requires getting first tiers before next ones):
---[] Level 1-3 spells - (Progress - 30)
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[] Forge of Creation. With Anu having finally restored the ritual necessary for creation of his kin, much may change... But for now, that is but a single ritual. To truly bring his people to life, something yet grander Is needed.
-[] Organise a magi-industrial complex capable of producing Warforged en-mass.
(Progress - 30)
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[] Empower Dark Sister
The Sword of Queen Visenya, ever loyal in the hand has been little used of late, though you wonder if it could be empowered to strike not only at flesh but at the soul
Requirements: Must be performed by a mage with the requisite skill
Action: Research
Progress: 12 (????????)

[] Forge Armor or talisman from Tiamat's scales
With Runelore at your fingertips you can now safely craft an item from the Bitch Queen's scales for Dany to wear
Requirements: Must be performed by a mage with the requisite skill
Action: Research
Progress: 16 (????????)
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-[] Research the land wards in Thenn's holdings (Progress - 15)
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[] Research the Butterflies of Naath
-[] The butterflies of Naath, or more precisely the deadly fever they cause, has long been the greatest defense of the island against Ghiscari slavers. Now though, their presence makes it difficult for new settlers to come to the island, as they lack the immunity that Brindled Men and the people of Naath have. Learning more about these creatures and the sickness named after them could greatly help to make the island more prosperous. Of course, there is always the chance that understanding the immunity might open up paths for less peaceful applications of that knowledge.
(Progress: 18)
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[] Project Praetorian.
-[] (Progress - 40)
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At what point is a Research Action an "easy" one, at which is it a "difficult" one?
 
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egoo said:
Actually, this seems to be an actual problem there at my list.
Many actions seem to have somewhat random amount of Success required as a condition :/







At what point is a Research Action an "easy" one, at which is it a "difficult" one?
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What seems unbalanced specifically? As a general rule I have projects where your characters have experience such as enchantment take lees time than wholly new fields of magic, like say making living spells
 
DragonParadox said:
What seems unbalanced specifically? As a general rule I have projects where your characters have experience such as enchantment take lees time than wholly new fields of magic, like say making living spells
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Ah, I see now, then.
Still, I think that at some point soon-ish (probably after you drop that Inquisitorial report on Fey, *cough*) the whole list needs to be looked over by you and assigned appropriate numbers, then.
 
DragonParadox said:
So that would make the book the archons printed be worth about 300ish IM. That sounds about right.

You are going to have to get a codex archon to poke your printing press though. Right now their ritual is strictly manual. On the other hand it is a very robust piece of magic so I would say it would be a 20 progress research project that can be taken by anyone with decent arcana (or you can just leave Naeron to do it by himself).
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Would this action also convert our Arcane Printing Presses to be able to print broadsheets in Truespeech?

If so, how much would that cost per printing press?

@Azel What are our research time investments looking like next turn?
 
Goldfish said:
Would this action also convert our Arcane Printing Presses to be able to print broadsheets in Truespeech?

If so, how much would that cost per printing press?

@Azel What are our research time investments looking like next turn?
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I could shovel free a Scholarium action and assign Anu to this instead of starting on the Forge of Creation.
 
Goldfish said:
What are our research time investments looking like next turn?
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This grates me so hard it isn't even funny.
Argh.

I haven't had DP look over the list until the very end just because I thought there would be no need for pre-planning the projects before the month-vote and new ones could always crop up, like this press :o:o
 
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Goldfish said:
Would this action also convert our Arcane Printing Presses to be able to print broadsheets in Truespeech?

If so, how much would that cost per printing press?

@Azel What are our research time investments looking like next turn?
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  1. Yes that is exactly what it would do
  2. The cost of the equipment stays the same only the actual end product gets more expensive the whole set-up would also be more fragile because of the various sorts of magic working in tandem but I do not imagine that will be much of an issue ultimately. It's not like you are putting the presses in warships
 
egoo said:
This grates me so hard it isn't even funny.
Argh.

I haven't had DP look over the lsit until the very end just because I thought there would be no need for pre-planning the projects before the month-vote and new ones could always crop up, like this press :o:o
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I'm afraid that we have gotten into the habit of getting started on making turn-votes long before the actual end of the month.

Mostly because a lot of desired time commitments are already hashed out by the thread before and assembling the whole plan needs at least 10+ hours of work, plus however many hours @Goldfish needs for the whole crafting plan.
 
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