A Reforged World (NO SV, You are King of Italy, in a Greatly Changed World)

Alessandro1988 · Nov 24, 2023

[X] Plan Networking and Invention

Themarineguy · Nov 24, 2023

Nova_kaiser said:
The first generation of slaves would be natives at first it would not be until minimum a decade-ish after that they're were being replaced. And if Charles really REALLY needs more slaves he'll just buy from portugal or take it from in a trade war, that is much easier and cheaper then fighting a war to revive slavery in a region notorious for taking christians as slaves and pissing of Italy in to the hands of the French and Ottomans.

Charles is not a moron, he knows to secure his families (and his) European fortune and land an allied Italy is invalueble. He can choose to start another war for the Habsburgs after they're already being battered or make peace with Italy and get his slaves from Africa through peacefull or violent means. This is basic geopolitics, something that should be obviously clear to any one who thinks for just a moment. Sometimes I think you want that Spain would declare war.

Yeah but don't take it the wrong way, this idea that Spain is destined to attack us is stupid and is overtly alarmist and I didn't want to waste my time with it but I couldn't help myself when you said something wrong.

There is one problem with this. The assumption that Charles made the locals into slaves like OTL.

Magoose said:
And instead of forced slave labor, the natives are, for the most part, being left alone. Though many continue to their old tribal ways. Some have moved into the new Spanish colonies, and become true Spanish subjects

While last quest we had confirmation that is not happening, likely because doing such would make enemies of the locals, which would be problematic because there are only so many Spaniards Charles has to try and build an empire many times spain's size. So, the crunch is coming sooner because he hadn't converted much of the local population, if any, into slave labor unless the situation changed since then.

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

Themarineguy said:
So, the crunch is coming sooner because he hadn't converted much of the local population, if any, into slave labor unless the situation changed since then.

While he has not made his native Ally's slaves as he is honoring his word, they are still his subjects.

Meaning a lot of things and not all of them good. Esspecially those that didn't convert.

CrazyBuilder999 · Nov 24, 2023

Can we use the navy to claim any unclaimed islands in the Atlantic?

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

CrazyBuilder999 said:
Can we use the navy to claim any unclaimed islands in the Atlantic?

Yes and no.

Yes that you can try.

No in that Portugal and Spain might not let any ships out of the strait of Gibraltar.

CrazyBuilder999 · Nov 24, 2023

Magoose said:
No in that Portugal and Spain might not let any ships out of the strait of Gibraltar.

If they try to do that would that be a good casus belli? Our navy could definitely eliminate any obstacles that Spain or Portugal sets up

Stalingrado0527 · Nov 24, 2023

[X] Plan Networking and Invention

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

CrazyBuilder999 said:
If they try to do that would that be a good casus belli? Our navy could definitely eliminate any obstacles that Spain or Portugal put.

Legally yes but it would be a very tough sell for the rest of Europe to swallow

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

A reminder tha Luciano's engineering rolls are +25 before bonuses….

I am going to laugh like a mad man if the rolls are as good as the navies.

Ranger65 · Nov 24, 2023

i have a very bad idea we could use if we go to war with Spain...we ask the ottomans for help.
Edit: because they probably hate being stuck in the mediterranean as much as us.

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

While Realpolitik would agree with you…

We have a lot of ambitious neighbors and angry people who would hate us for that.

Also the first roll of the engineering roll:D100 + 35 => 121

Brings a tear to my eye.

The rolls will be bullshit.

The rewards incredible.

Randino Treviani · Nov 24, 2023

Magoose said:
While Realpolitik would agree with you…

We have a lot of ambitious neighbors and angry people who would hate us for that.

Also the first roll of the engineering roll:D100 + 35 => 121

Brings a tear to my eye.

The rolls will be bullshit.

The rewards incredible.

Magoose said:
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[]The Prince: You are going to learn from your master's book, and see what wisdom you can gleam. DC: 55 Reward: you learn how to be a Prince of a nation. Rolled:D100 + 20 => 112+D100 + 20 => 119+D100 + 20 => 115+D100 + 20 => 103=449

"Everyone sees what you appear to be, few experience what you really are."

You took those words to heart, and did your best to hide, what you are.

Reward: +6 to Composure. +2 to Decorum.

As your Composure is now 15, you gain a +30 to one roll, in an action that uses your highest stat (Engineering)

If the Roll gets to 1000, you may invent something that is centuries ahead of your time.

Inventing Action Unlocked.

Engineering Action unlocked.

Rebuilding Rome Action Unlocked (currently locked until the Kingdom is no longer at war, and Bankrupt.)

Is this bonus applying to the second roll then? It's one we gained in rebirth.

Magoose said:
A reminder tha Luciano's engineering rolls are +25 before bonuses….

I am going to laugh like a mad man if the rolls are as good as the navies.

So with this, it should be more like +65, if it's applying to this roll.

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

Randino Treviani said:
Is this bonus applying to the second roll then? It's one we gained in rebirth.

So with this, it should be more like +65, if it's applying to this roll.

…. Yep I forgot that sorry

Randino Treviani · Nov 24, 2023

Magoose said:
…. Yep I forgot that sorry

It's cool man. I only remembered cause I was up all night going over the best parts of rebirth.

RealOtto · Nov 24, 2023

Randino Treviani said:
It's one we gained in rebirth.

We really do need a list of things Luciano gained and did from Rebirth..

Randino Treviani · Nov 24, 2023

RealOtto said:
We really do need a list of things Luciano gained and did from Rebirth..

Ehh. I'll find time for it later today or tomorrow if something updates.

seidr · Nov 24, 2023

[X] Plan Networking and Invention

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

RealOtto said:
We really do need a list of things Luciano gained and did from Rebirth..

I had a list of everything but it got destroyed when my computer went caput.

It's why it took so long to get an update… I had to rebuild everything.

Earl Warren · Nov 24, 2023

[X] Plan Networking and Invention

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

Scheduled vote count started by Magoose on Nov 23, 2023 at 10:00 PM, finished with 90 posts and 19 votes.

19 people have voted
-[X]Simple Matters of Trust: You and Isabella take a long look at each other, as she looks at you. "You want to know something… I honestly thought you were going to rape me when we wed…The fact you didn't, means you are a better man than any man who would have been my husband." DC: ??? Reward: Isabella begins to trust you fully.
18 people have voted
-[X]The Steam Engine: You will take a look at the New Steam Engine, and see what you can do. DC: ??? Reward: You finally see what Leonardo's steam engine can do.
17 people have voted
-[X] The Men who would make you an Autocrat: The Grazini's. The so-called Royalists, and His Majesty's most Loyal Friends in the Senate. That is to say, they want to destroy the Senate, and the farcical Republican institutions that had been instilled into the Nation. While you do not agree with their… final goal, you also see that they can be good allies in a pinch, to secure a majority in government. DC: 20 Reward: You meet with the Royalists, and find out more about their objectives and political makeup.
- RealOtto
- fireknight
- NightOwl3713
- Kaiser Chris
- Orion Ultor
- Nova_kaiser
- ThatGuyWithIdeas
- Poke_verse
- Dom Dom
- Amilia
- Duke William of
- Alessandro1988
- Stalingrado0527
- seidr
- Earl Warren
- JAGwin
- geraldrold
17 people have voted
-[X]The Last Republicans: There are not many that would consider themselves Ardent Republicans… That much was certain when they dwindled in the last few years. But they are men who were of the same Cloth as Machevelis coat before Macheveli chose the State, then his republican ideals, men who saw the bright future of a Republic smothered away by compromise, instead of dealing with it. DC: 20 Reward: You meet with the Republicans. The men who would have given everything for a Republic.
- RealOtto
- fireknight
- NightOwl3713
- Kaiser Chris
- Orion Ultor
- Nova_kaiser
- ThatGuyWithIdeas
- Poke_verse
- Dom Dom
- Amilia
- Duke William of
- Alessandro1988
- Stalingrado0527
- seidr
- Earl Warren
- JAGwin
- geraldrold
15 people have voted
-[X]The Prime Ministers' Pet Project: The Prime minister is wishing to use the surplus of Gold in the budget to fund schools… Grammar School he calls them, to teach latin, Italian, and Greek, along with mathematics and literacy. He just needs your support for the Senate to Approve them. DC: ??? Reward: You begin the process of founding new schools for the Major cities. (Will complete This turn)
14 people have voted
-[X]The Diplomatic Situation: You need to know how the state is viewed by the Rest of Europe. DC: 40 Reward: You see the documents. And worry about progress.
14 people have voted
-[X]Rebuilding Rome (The Sewers): You have a strong belief that if the city can remain clean and healthy, the city's entire place will follow. DC: ??? Reward: You begin a reconstruction of Romes's Ancient Sewers. (Costs 4 Turns)
12 people have voted
-[X]To Design a Better Gun (Cannons, Ammunition): You want to see if you can make a better cannon shot. Reward: You make the explosive better.
12 people have voted
[X] Plan Networking and Invention
5 people have voted
-[X]A City of Marble, A City of Light: You and your engineers are going to do an estimation of trying to restore the Old Palaces within the City for your use. DC:??? Reward: Rebuilding the city may come cheaper, and you can do your own work.
5 people have voted
-[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again.
4 people have voted
-[X]The Prince: You are going to learn from your master's book, and see what wisdom you can gleam. DC: 55 Reward: you learn how to be a Prince of a nation.
2 people have voted
[X] Plan: King Luciano and the Invention of Leonardo
- RealOtto
- fireknight
2 people have voted
-[X]Retiernment: Macheveli is enjoying his retirement. But that does not mean you do not come to him for wisdom. DC: 0 Reward: You get Wisdom from your Old Master.
- RealOtto
- fireknight
2 people have voted
-[X]The Prime Ministers' Pet Project: The Prime minister is wishintg to use the surplus of Gold in the budget to fund schools… Grammar School he calls them, to teach latin, Italian, and Greek, along with mathematics and literacy. He just needs your support for the Senate to Approve them. DC: ??? Reward: You begin the process of founding new schools for the Major cities. (Will complete This turn)
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
2 people have voted
-[X]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
2 people have voted
--[X] Hire officers for the army, expanding it if possible.
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
2 people have voted
---[X] Fund border defense drills and tactics training.
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
2 people have voted
-[X]Foreign Diplomatic Adventures: You are to send diplomats out and about to make sure that the interests of Italy are respected. DC: ?? Reward: You see what is to be done. (Linetail what you want to do diplomatically)
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
2 people have voted
[X] Plan I forgot to name this
- JAGwin
- geraldrold
2 people have voted
[X] Plan True Control of the Mediterranean.
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
2 people have voted
--[X] Attempt to annex Gibralter from Spain.
- Randino Treviani
- wencitofrum
1 people have voted
[X] A Meeting of Minds
- NightOwl3713
1 people have voted
-[X]The Order of Solutions: They have asked for more guns from you, and you want to know why? DC: 30 Reward: You find out what the Hell Jon Charles Severin has done.
- NightOwl3713
1 people have voted
-[X]The New Nobility: You want to meet the new courtiers. AKA the people you know will be wishing to be parasites to the state. DC: 30 Reward: You talk to the new courtiers.
- NightOwl3713

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

Kaiser Chris said:
Regal Cuddling

+10 to all rolls this turn.

RealOtto said:
The Great Tea-napper

+10 to all Italian State Rumor mill,

Normally I would have given big rewards...

But uh... The Rolls this turn will speak for themselves.

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

Um...

Welll Uh... So listen, due to one of the rolls surpassing... (sorry 18)... different times on 1 action...

Um... I'm just going to put all of them here.

Leonardos steam engine.

D100 + 85 => 91
D100 + 85 => 107
D100 + 85 => 124
D100 + 85 => 94
D100 + 85 => 111
D100 + 85 => 149
D100 + 85 => 140
D100 + 85 => 149
D100 + 85 => 141
D100 + 85 => 104
D100 + 85 => 111
D100 + 85 => 96
D100 + 85 => 161
D100 + 85 => 158
D100 + 85 => 158
D100 + 85 => 132
D100 + 85 => 95
D100 + 85 => 86 | natural one: 1

Um Welcome to the Industrial revolution everyone.

Kaiser Chris · Nov 24, 2023

My boy was trying to invent the Steam Engine and in the process discovered nuclear physics.

Whenyouseeyou · Nov 24, 2023

Ok so i say that the nat 1 is that other nations find out and have the schematics to make one

Magoose · Nov 24, 2023

Kaiser Chris said:
My boy was trying to invent the Steam Engine and in the process discovered nuclear physics.

Actually no.

The Bessemer Process actually. Maybe I don't know just yet what I should give you.

but most likely the steam engine design from the... 1860's.

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