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A Reforged World (NO SV, You are King of Italy, in a Greatly Changed World)

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[X] Plan: Of Armies and Industry Mark 2

Weird thought, but will Japan be obsessed with Italy in this timeline instead of France when they start to modernize during the Tokugawa Era?

...and now, instead of Enlightenment/Revolutionary France, I'm seeing an intense obsession with Roman Empire spreading to all corners of the globe...and pizza.
 
Orion Ultor said:
[X] Plan: Of Armies and Industry Mark 2

Weird thought, but will Japan be obsessed with Italy in this timeline instead of France when they start to modernize during the Tokugawa Era?

...and now, instead of Enlightenment/Revolutionary France, I'm seeing an intense obsession with Roman Empire spreading to all corners of the globe...and pizza.
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There may not be a tokugawa era. Nobunaga is a crafty son of a bitch, and won't underestimate the worth of the steam engine. He may just conquer Japan well ahead of Monkey's coalition and betrayal, assuming one of the other bastards doesn't. Date Masamune was famous for fielding heavy cavalry with really high quality armor, so I could see him shelling out for some foreign rifles and becoming a major lord instead of being strong armed into Monkey's service.

Ehh. I'd drop all comparisons honestly. We aren't trash like the Roman slaver republic or hypocrites like Napoleonic France. This is the one and only United Kingdoms of Italy.
 
Randino Treviani said:
Ehh. I'd drop all comparisons honestly. We aren't trash like the Roman slaver republic or hypocrites like Napoleonic France. This is the one and only United Kingdoms of Italy.
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There isn't a comparison, it's known that there was a massive revival of interest in the Roman Empire during this period, largely in the realms of art and architecture, so much so that it became a cultural landmark for Italy...and it's already been going on for nearly a hundred years. Even if wanted to avoid the connotations with Rome, of them being a slaver republic, we're dealing with a history and tradition that predates our cause. If anything, us choosing to largely eradicate slavery will be compared to, contrasted with and seen an extension of the later stages of the Roman Empire, where slavery (especially in the gladiatorial pits) was starting to fall to the wayside in favor of willing volunteers.

But my point wasn't that there would be a comparison, it was more to do with us being in a specific place and time to create a cultural obsession with our country in Japan, akin to their current OTL obsession with France during that era of history, stemming from how French were largely the ones who helped them rapidly accelerate into the modern era and that became a cultural touch stone for them, to the point there's an actual psychological condition they've termed for when a Japanese tourist goes to France and expectations do not meet reality.

But you're also ignoring the fact that even if Masumune wanted to rapidly expand his territory through the usage of the steam engine he would have to import a metric craptton of usable material, given that Japanese iron tends to be heavily...flawed. That's going to be the sticking point, which means it likely won't occur until we'll after the Suez Vinci Cannal gets built.
 
Orion Ultor said:
But you're also ignoring the fact that even if Masumune wanted to rapidly expand his territory through the usage of the steam engine he would have to import a metric craptton of usable material, given that Japanese iron tends to be heavily...flawed. That's going to be the sticking point, which means it likely won't occur until we'll after the Suez Vinci Cannal gets built.
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Japanese Iron is flawed, japanese steel, not so much, and thats before potential leak of Luciano's technique toward the east over the next century. We are largely importing things now do to our own flawed resources and exceeding costs exponentially for this turn and the next nine. It's not entirely a deadlock. It wasn't cheap outfitting hundreds of cavalry soldiers in Japanese heavy plate, but Date Masamune footed the bill.
 
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    • Scheduled vote count started by Magoose on Nov 27, 2023 at 11:32 PM, finished with 50 posts and 18 votes.
    • [X] Plan: Of Armies and Industry Mark 2
      -[X]The Army's First Class… Well Actually: The Army have asked something… They need money to build an academy for Officers. And train recruits. Doing this might piss off the Navy. DC: ??? Reward: You see about founding an Academy… and a training camp for training new soldiers. The Navy hears about this, they will throw a fit.
      -[X] Free Elections: This will be the first Free Elections of the Italian State. Time to see who wins. DC: 0 Reward: You see the makeup of this new government. And who will lead it.
      -[X]Foreign Diplomatic Adventures: You are to send diplomats out and about to make sure that the interests of Italy are respected. DC: ?? Reward: You see what is to be done. (Linetail what you want to do diplomatically) #1
      --[X] establish a mutual coastal defense treaty with provisions for joint fleet actions in defense of each nations interests.
      ---[X] Expand English & Italian trade agreements in favor of more easily acquiring materials needed for creating steel.
      -[X]Rebuilding Rome (The Sewers): You have a strong belief that if the city can remain clean and healthy, the city's entire place will follow. DC: 40 Reward: You begin a reconstruction of Romes's Ancient Sewers. (Costs 1 Turns)
      -[X]Duties of State: Isabella walked into your room, and locked the door. "I'm ready." DC: 0 Reward: Welp, it's baby-making time.
      -[X]The Order of Solutions: They have asked for more guns from you, and you want to know why? DC: 30 Reward: You find out what the Hell Jon Charles Severin has done.
      -[X]Innovate or Die: You are the greatest engineer alive. Perhaps you can come up with something. DC:??? Reward: You invent something (Must line tail what you wish to invent below this action, can be taken multiple times)
      -[X] The Coal-Fumes Industrial Filter: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. Knowing how harmful (from the many times you've coughed and even left the workshop for hours) the fumes are, you decide on creating a filter system that reduces the harmful chemicals from reaching the inside of the body.
      -[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again.
      [X] Plan Steam, Sewers, and Academies
      -[X]The Army's First Class… Well Actually: The Army have asked something… They need money to build an academy for Officers. And train recruits. Doing this might piss off the Navy. DC: ??? Reward: You see about founding an Academy… and a training camp for training new soldiers. The Navy hears about this, they will throw a fit.
      -[X] Free Elections: This will be the first Free Elections of the Italian State. Time to see who wins. DC: 0 Reward: You see the makeup of this new government. And who will lead it.
      -[X]A Central Italian Bank: The Banking Class of Italy wants a Central Bank, not a decentralized system that currently works in Italy… where Florence, Milan, and Naples dominate. DC: ??? Reward: You see what is the fuss about a central bank.
      -[X]Rebuilding Rome (The Sewers): You have a strong belief that if the city can remain clean and healthy, the city's entire place will follow. DC: 40 Reward: You begin a reconstruction of Romes's Ancient Sewers. (Costs 1 Turns)
      -[X]Duties of State: Isabella walked into your room, and locked the door. "I'm ready." DC: 0 Reward: Welp, it's baby-making time.
      -[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again.
      -[X]Innovate or Die: You are the greatest engineer alive. Perhaps you can come up with something. DC:??? Reward: You invent something (Must line tail what you wish to invent below this action, can be taken multiple times)
      --[X] Steampowered Transport Carriages and Tracks: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. The possibilities of a wagonless transportation device is what interests you. You spend time producing a Horseless Steampowered Form of transportation that can carry materials and people to different places..of course with its tracks.
      --[X] The Coal-Fumes Industrial Filter: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. Knowing how harmful (from the many times you've coughed and even left the workshop for hours) the fumes are, you decide on creating a filter system that reduces the harmful chemicals from reaching the inside of the body.
      [X] Plan: Of Armies and Industry
      [X] Plan For The Good of the Nation
      -[X]The Army's First Class… Well Actually: The Army have asked something… They need money to build an academy for Officers. And train recruits. Doing this might piss off the Navy. DC: ??? Reward: You see about founding an Academy… and a training camp for training new soldiers. The Navy hears about this, they will throw a fit.
      -[X] Free Elections: This will be the first Free Elections of the Italian State. Time to see who wins. DC: 0 Reward: You see the makeup of this new government. And who will lead it.
      -[X]Foreign Diplomatic Adventures: You are to send diplomats out and about to make sure that the interests of Italy are respected. DC: ?? Reward: You see what is to be done. (Linetail what you want to do diplomatically) #1
      --[X] establish a mutual coastal defense treaty with provisions for joint fleet actions in defense of each nations interests.
      ---[X] Expand English & Italian trade agreements in favor of more easily acquiring materials needed for creating steel.
      -[X]Foreign Diplomatic Adventures: You are to send diplomats out and about to make sure that the interests of Italy are respected. DC: ?? Reward: You see what is to be done. (Linetail what you want to do diplomatically) #2
      --[X] Open Negotiations for the annexation of one of the Spanish Cananaries for the ease of Atlantic trade and patrol of trade routes.
      -[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again.
      -[X]Duties of State: Isabella walked into your room, and locked the door. "I'm ready." DC: 0 Reward: Welp, it's baby-making time.
      -[X]Innovate or Die: You are the greatest engineer alive. Perhaps you can come up with something. DC:??? Reward: You invent something (Must line tail what you wish to invent below this action, can be taken multiple times)
      -[X] Steampowered Transport Carriages and Tracks: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. The possibilities of a wagonless transportation device is what interests you. You spend time producing a Horseless Steampowered Form of transportation that can carry materials and people to different places..of course with its tracks.
      -[X] The Coal-Fumes Industrial Filter: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. Knowing how harmful (from the many times you've coughed and even left the workshop for hours) the fumes are, you decide on creating a filter system that reduces the harmful chemicals from reaching the inside of the body.
      [X] A New Rome, Banking, and The Army
      -[X]Rebuilding Rome (The Sewers): You have a strong belief that if the city can remain clean and healthy, the city's entire place will follow. DC: 40 Reward: You begin a reconstruction of Romes's Ancient Sewers. (Costs 2 Turns)
      -[X]Rebuilding Rome (The Aquaducts): Rome's main waterways from ancient times were the Aquaducts. While much of the city's water comes from the Tiber, you want to see if you can recreate the city's water supply. DC: 40 Reward: You begin a reconstruction of Romes's Ancient Aquaducts to feed the cities. (Costs 4 Turns)
      -[X]A Central Italian Bank: The Banking Class of Italy wants a Central Bank, not a decentralized system that currently works in Italy… where Florence, Milan, and Naples dominate. DC: ??? Reward: You see what is the fuss about a central bank.
      -[X]The Army's First Class… Well Actually: The Army have asked something… They need money to build an academy for Officers. And train recruits. Doing this might piss off the Navy. DC: ??? Reward: You see about founding an Academy… and a training camp for training new soldiers. The Navy hears about this, they will throw a fit.
      -[X]The Law of the Land: You need to learn how this new constitution works. And that means doing other things. Like learning how laws work. DC: 40 Reward: You learn more about the law.
      -[X]The Keys of State Craft: Your master wants you to learn the fine arts of making friends and allies. Even if it means you abhor them. DC: 40 Reward: You learn the fine arts of diplomacy
      -[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again.
      -[X]Duties of State: Isabella walked into your room, and locked the door. "I'm ready." DC: 0 Reward: Welp, it's baby-making time.
      [X] Plan: Reform, Elections, and Steampower
      -[X]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
      --[X] The Italian Army Revitalisation Act: Noting that the Army is currently in dire straits, Senator Octavian proposes the creation of a staff of Army Officials to coordinate in a cooperative effort towards the Reformation of the Army from every operation possible (Training, Logistic Supply, Strategic Decisions, Doctrines, Finances, Information, Battle-Readiness, etc.), an enlarged Budget is established to the Army to see the reforms done, and to employ and actively encourage new officers to have a voice in the Italian Army Reform Staff.
      -[X] Free Elections: This will be the first Free Elections of the Italian State. Time to see who wins. DC: 0 Reward: You see the makeup of this new government. And who will lead it.
      -[X]A Central Italian Bank: The Banking Class of Italy wants a Central Bank, not a decentralized system that currently works in Italy… where Florence, Milan, and Naples dominate. DC: ??? Reward: You see what is the fuss about a central bank.
      -[X]The Gunmakers of Italy: Besides yourself, and Beretta, there are other arms manufacturers that are trying to win contracts for the Italian Army. And you want to see what they are, and what they can give. DC: 40 Reward: You learn of Italy's growing Arms industry.
      -[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again.
      -[X]Duties of State: Isabella walked into your room, and locked the door. "I'm ready." DC: 0 Reward: Welp, it's baby-making time.
      -[X]Innovate or Die: You are the greatest engineer alive. Perhaps you can come up with something. DC:??? Reward: You invent something (Must line tail what you wish to invent below this action, can be taken multiple times)
      --[X] Steampowered Transport Carriages and Tracks: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. The possibilities of a wagonless transportation device is what interests you. You spend time producing a Horseless Steampowered Form of transportation that can carry materials and people to different places..of course with its tracks.
      --[X] The Coal-Fumes Industrial Filter: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. Knowing how harmful (from the many times you've coughed and even left the workshop for hours) the fumes are, you decide on creating a filter system that reduces the harmful chemicals from reaching the inside of the body.
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    • As this is the end of book 3...

    The Disaster Roll will arrive, to see what the fuck is going to be our next big challenge is.
     
    Well we need scalable filter tech that can be applied in all industrial situations and locations dumbed down and made cheap enough that nations don't decide to not include them because of costs.
     
    Magoose said:
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    Hnm..That may lead to the creation of an Italian John Snow that basically founded modern Medical ideas as he'd be intrigued with less Sickness in Rome (Better Sewers and Drinking Water) compared to other cities without the New Roman Sewers.

    Which leads towards (After experimenting with glass and other material mixed with sunlight) the creation of Microscope and the discovery (with clear evidence and importance to a person's health..sick and not sick) of Bacteria..aka Germ Theory.

    Yep, the Sewer problem of London helped the prooving of Germ Theory..especially with less sickness reported after the underground sewers were created.
     
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    But no one has invented Germ Theory yet.
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    Which brings an interesting conondrum. While the concept of Miasma (Basically cursed-filled air..and you can prove it through air-based sickness) isn't new, I'm sure less sickness in Rome after the Sewers would lead towards many Old and New Medical Experts being intrigued with the "Phenomenon". Thus leads towards the concept that Miasma isn't the only way of sickness, and introduced Water-borne ones.

    There would've been at least one person, who'd want to study the water itself..wanting to know how it can even bring sickness.
     
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    Book 3: Final Chapter.
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    • Book 3: Final Chapter.
    A New Challenge appears.    ​

    -[X]The Army's First Class… Well Actually: The Army have asked something… They need money to build an academy for Officers. And train recruits. Doing this might piss off the Navy. DC: ??? Reward: You see about founding an Academy… and a training camp for training new soldiers. The Navy hears about this, they will throw a fit. Rolled:D100 + 25 => 40

    The Navy's Reactions:D100 => 61

    As you looked through many of the reports, and the approval of such a thing, there were going to always be problems.

    The army, as is tradition to maritime powers, was always neglected by the Navy, yet there is never anything that would have caused you to fear mutiny. The Navy was well trained, the Sea Lord was practically a saint among his men, and he was an ally who was enjoying his status.

    But the Army in this new and final budget of this Government, was practically set. The Navy got its share, but far more resources were sent to the Army, far more than ever done before.

    The army, the Generals, captains and garrisons thanked you, and most of the men were drinking to your heath.

    The Navy… said nothing. There was grumbling yes. There was anger yes.

    But you had spoken, and this government had its orders. So… they agreed and listened.

    Reward: Army Reforms unlocked.

    New Actions Available.
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    -[X] Free Elections: This will be the first Free Elections of the Italian State. Time to see who wins. DC: 0 Reward: You see the makeup of this new government. And who will lead it. Rolled:D100 + 25 => 117

    The Election:

    The Grazini's:D100 => 42

    The Moderates:D100 => 17

    The Republicans:D100 => 49

    To say that the election was incredibly close… was a drastic understatement.

    The Moderate's failure in the foreign policy game, despite massive economic growth and millitary adventures, and the starting of the new Italian Education system, did not see them respond well in the polls for the election. And it seems that the Grazini's with the hero Medici… Well as heroic and politically talented as the man who helped unify Italy… And he promised even greater wealth, and… glory.

    They gained quite a bit in the north and Naples and Sicily.

    It was Senator Octavian, that capitalized on the numerous smaller issues that had been ignored by this government. The school system was nice, yes, and had great political policy success. He promised liberation

    But no one ever expected it to be a divided government.

    No one had a majoraty.

    (Continued in the beginning of next turn)
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    -[X]Foreign Diplomatic Adventures: You are to send diplomats out and about to make sure that the interests of Italy are respected. DC: ?? Reward: You see what is to be done. (Linetail what you want to do diplomatically) #1
    --[X] establish a mutual coastal defense treaty with provisions for joint fleet actions in defense of each nations interests. Rolled:D100 + 25 => 46

    The English were not happy with that. It seems that the English Admiralty and the Navy captains spoke to Parliment.

    And they convinced them that such a treaty would only harm England and her navy.

    Failure.
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    ---[X] Expand English & Italian trade agreements in favor of more easily acquiring materials needed for creating steel. Rolled:D100 + 25 => 72

    It was only after the delegation from England was informed of a great price for Italian Steel, at a considerable discount, did they agree.

    And it was something that England agreed.

    Reward: England relations increased by +1…

    You can now enter a formal military alliance.
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    -[X]Rebuilding Rome (The Sewers): You have a strong belief that if the city can remain clean and healthy, the city's entire place will follow. DC: 40 Reward: You begin a reconstruction of Romes's Ancient Sewers. (Costs 1 Turns) Rolled:D100 + 85 => 98
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    You rebuilt Rome in your own image. And it would all be because of one thing. Lead pipes were replaced with Steel ones.

    And then it went even further. Aquaducts rebuilt. Water flowed into the city, safe drinking water.

    And then you needed to send the waste water out… and then it got more and more.

    Every project just got bigger, as one problem was solved.

    But you liked the challenge. And all it did was prove how right you were.

    Reward: Rome's entire sewer system was replaced and rebuilt in 6 months. The city never has to worry about dirty drinking water. And now it can grow bigger.

    The Pope even praised you.

    Unknown Positive effect on the entire planet.
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    -[X]Duties of State: Isabella walked into your room, and locked the door. "I'm ready." DC: 0 Reward: Welp, it's baby-making time. Rolled:D100 + 25 => 93+D100 + 25 => 95+D100 + 25 => 69

    Pregnancy Roll:D1000 + 25 => 1025 (Goddammit)

    Isabella was leaning against your body as you looked away, trying your best not to get flustered. "I hope don't hurt you?"

    "You won't hurt me." She said as she reached down and caused you to groan. "Now, I go first, then you go first. And we aren't leaving until morning."

    You smiled. "Alright."

    You both… had an incredible night of passion. And lots of lewd moments that you were sure you were going to confession for.

    Reward: You and Isabella went baby making… and she is now pregnant.
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    -[X]The Order of Solutions: They have asked for more guns from you, and you want to know why? DC: 30 Reward: You find out what the Hell Jon Charles Severin has done. Rolled:D100 + 25 =>30

    You learned two things.

    1. Severin is in Egypt and fought the Ottomans, and was paid a kings ransom for his services. He could retire after this.

    2. He bloodied the Ottomans something fierce, killing one of their greatest generals.

    And Severin and the Order of Solutions have a bounty of 20 million silver on their heads by the Ottoman sultan.

    Reward: Severin… has slaughtered an Ottoman army, and is now fighting his way through the entire Middle East trying to get to a safe place where he won't immediately be killed.

    You give it 50/50 odds that he makes it. You do not underestimate that mercenary madman.
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    -[X]Innovate or Die: You are the greatest engineer alive. Perhaps you can come up with something. DC:??? Reward: You invent something (Must line tail what you wish to invent below this action, can be taken multiple times)
    -[X] The Coal-Fumes Industrial Filter: The Creation of the Steam Engine brings forth a great potential towards the potential of the future. Knowing how harmful (from the many times you've coughed and even left the workshop for hours) the fumes are, you decide on creating a filter system that reduces the harmful chemicals from reaching the inside of the body. Rolled:D100 + 85 => 180
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    To think of just how simple it was. It required water yes, an incredible amount of it, and than the bellows and then cloth, usually sheep wool… because it was cheaper.

    But after a while, while the coal is still toxic and causing you coughing fits, you could spend far longer dealing with it, and working in it.

    Honestly, you think if you didn't do it, you probobly would be getting sick, or worse.

    Reward: Invented semi-modern coal filters.

    The emissions by Italian industries are far less now. The Italian industry is far more effective.

    Unknown Positive effect on the entire world.
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    -[X]The Eagle: Ezio has returned and is back to the problem at hand. Trying to serve as a friend to a king. DC: 40 Reward: You meet Ezio again. Rolled:D100 + 25 => 37

    Ezio only said he would see you soon.

    Failure (Autopasses next turn)
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    Disaster Roll:D100 => 83

    Oh… Oh no.

    Charles was back in Spain, and he was sending an Envoy for a proper conversation.

    And it was not a conversation that you wanted. "My dear Luca… tell me, why is it you despise slavery, when it can make all Rich."

    (Continued in… A Conference on the Atlantic.)
     
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    • Magoose said:
    Charles was back in Spain, and he was sending an Envoy for a proper conversation.

    And it was not a conversation that you wanted. "My dear Luca… tell me, why is it you despise slavery, when it can make all Rich."
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    My crucial mistake that I make in every Magoose quest is trying to bring logic and reason into the quest.
     
    Huh I thought the bigger the disaster rolls the better it is so unless we mess up we can convince Charles to not do slavery and instead do industries
     
    Nova_kaiser said:
    My crucial mistake that I make in every Magoose quest is trying to bring logic and reason into the quest.
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    Don't go putting logic in a power fantasy where you are the greatest engineer in human history ruling the pasta people.

    It dosen't end well. all it does it make you confused. :V

    Also, think of it this way. This will be a fine showing if I ever get to the America Fuck Yeah quest I always wanted to do.
    Whenyouseeyou said:
    Huh I thought the bigger the disaster rolls the better it is so unless we mess up we can convince Charles to not do slavery and instead do industries
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    That would be a 90 or above.

    he would see that he needs to industrialize, and he has half the planet to work with.

    And that would make things difficult.
     
    Nova_kaiser said:
    My crucial mistake that I make in every Magoose quest is trying to bring logic and reason into the quest.
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    Magoose said:
    Don't go putting logic in a power fantasy where you are the greatest engineer in human history ruling the pasta people.

    It dosen't end well. all it does it make you confused. :V

    Also, think of it this way. This will be a fine showing if I ever get to the America Fuck Yeah quest I always wanted to do.
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    Well, technically it isn't wrong.
    The problem is that step one means looking down on the slaves as subhuman. Which...
    Well, taking the slaves out of the picture, then yes, he isn't exactly wrong. After all, off the back of slaves, even the second class citizens that are the locals could benefit handsomely. 😅
     
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