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A Different Breed (Warhammer 29K)

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Profilozof said:
Vect is alive, huh. good for him probably bad for us
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Honestly the Cormorrites are more a "M33+ problem" and even then they're more of a nuisance (on a galactic scale) until Vect pulls his coup in M35.

Evaunit02mark1 said:
A productively aimed Vect would be a hell of a steal, it's just that actually getting that would be almost impossible.

Vect is for Vect and the minute our goals diverge from what helps him directly he'll already have like 12 different contingency plans for knocking us off the board.

Though personally I don't blame him for that because the Fall was the goddamn Fall and it's not like the rest of the galaxy is holding hands and singing hymns.
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Doesn't exactly help his propensity for kumbayas that he spent a good while as the favorite of one of the Cormorrite nobles for most of his growing-up period, and these are the types who looked at the Fall and went "lol, sucks for those peasants, hand me the hyper-blow. ohh, it's cut with ground glass? you shouldn't have!"

But yes, he's very much "I will rule this city, or see it burned to ashes around me; and the last thing my enemies see as they die in agony will be me smiling at them."
 
The various Webway realms may have the majority of the surviving Eldar population. Even a lightly populated Dyson sphere city can have unimaginable numbers of inhabitants. And there appear to have been quite a few of them in the Webway.

Getting even a fraction of them on board with our schemes would be helpful.
 
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The Froggy Ninja said:
Are these interludes diegetic visions?
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I doubt it. It's been mentioned that none of the surviving Craftworlders or Exodites know Comorragh hasn't been consumed by daemons, and there's no reason for them to poke it without good reason, which I imagine also applies to scrying it.

The first we'll find out otherwise is likely when they poke their heads out, unless Cegorach lets us know for whatever reason.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
Though personally I don't blame him for that because the Fall was the goddamn Fall and it's not like the rest of the galaxy is holding hands and singing hymns.
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The issue with this is that most of the galaxy - the ones that aren't Orks and Chaos so forth - is trying to be better. Especially here in 30k.

After an assload of people died from drug overdose, Vect and the other Dark Eldar looked at that and said, "Well if we can smell the bodies it means we're not doing enough drugs, go hit up some more!" And when they ran out of drugs, some bright spark said "Those people look like they have drugs in their bodies!" And they started abducting and torturing murdering everyone they could find so they could sniff the blood and feces in hopes it would get them high.

I can and absolutely will blame Vect and the rest of the DEldar for taking a bad situation and mking it worse because they wanted more drugs.
 
Alratan said:
The various Webway realms may have the majority of the surviving Eldar population. Even a lightly populated Dyson sphere city can have unimaginable numbers of inhabitants. And there appear to have been quite a few of them in the Webway.

Getting even a fraction of them on board with our schemes would be helpful.
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Yeah the problem with that is that when the Fall happened it was a lot like when the Humans got hit with the Age of Strife but condensed.

For every realm filled with survivors you find living their best Stardew Valley/Fallout life you get another filled with Nanobots that have eaten everything and yet still house the screaming souls of their creators, or people who have lost their souls to Slaanesh and become hollow ravenous husks desperate to feast on the living, or fucking Mandrakes.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
Yeah the problem with that is that when the Fall happened it was a lot like when the Humans got hit with the Age of Strife but condensed.

For every realm filled with survivors you find living their best Stardew Valley/Fallout life you get another filled with Nanobots that have eaten everything and yet still house the screaming souls of their creators, or people who have lost their souls to Slaanesh and become hollow ravenous husks desperate to feast on the living, or fucking Mandrakes.
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...Or one that's full of Deamons because the wards fell/were breached, or one that got eaten by some unspeakable horror from the War in Heaven that people now long dead locked in a vault somewhere rather than properly dealing with, or turned out to be built around some kind of ancient superweapon that got turned on accidentally and now kills everything that gets too close, or... [list continues for like six hundred pages]

Let's just say we're expressing the death toll in scientific notation because if you tried to write it out at readable size you would need more surface than the entire Earth to contain all the digits, shall we?
(and of course it isn't helped by the surviving nobility types making everything worse, of course. When Asdrubael Vect is an improvement...)
 
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Mechanis said:
Honestly the Cormorrites are more a "M33+ problem" and even then they're more of a nuisance (on a galactic scale) until Vect pulls his coup in M35.


Doesn't exactly help his propensity for kumbayas that he spent a good while as the favorite of one of the Cormorrite nobles for most of his growing-up period, and these are the types who looked at the Fall and went "lol, sucks for those peasants, hand me the hyper-blow. ohh, it's cut with ground glass? you shouldn't have!"

But yes, he's very much "I will rule this city, or see it burned to ashes around me; and the last thing my enemies see as they die in agony will be me smiling at them."
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Could we sway him towards more reasonable ends (after he gets his revenge) if we can offer soul-forging as a way to escape the Curse of Slaanesh?

Basically sway the people of Cormorragh away from being the sadistic monsters they were in canon by offering an alternative?

Alternatively, if we get artificial soul stones up and running, offering that as an alternative to sacrificing innocents to Slaanesh?
 
Karnax626 said:
I doubt it. It's been mentioned that none of the surviving Craftworlders or Exodites know Comorragh hasn't been consumed by daemons, and there's no reason for them to poke it without good reason, which I imagine also applies to scrying it.
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Definitely if it's targeted scrying, but the fact that this is using the Tarot may indicate that we're doing a general reading on things relevant to our species, if these are, in fact, diegetic.
Karnax626 said:
The first we'll find out otherwise is likely when they poke their heads out, unless Cegorach lets us know for whatever reason.
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Notably, Cego also doesn't know, IIRC.
 
Kind of bummed out. This story really feels like it's just spinning its wheels with all these interludes, lore snippets and vehicle voting, with the last actual turn vote being near 3 months ago.
 
Randino Treviani said:
actually would that Druchii with the V letter name who unifies the Druchii raiders count?
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Mechanis said:
Asdrubael Vect
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Nice. One of my guesses was correct.
Karnax626 said:
I doubt it. It's been mentioned that none of the surviving Craftworlders or Exodites know Comorragh hasn't been consumed by daemons, and there's no reason for them to poke it without good reason, which I imagine also applies to scrying it.

The first we'll find out otherwise is likely when they poke their heads out, unless Cegorach lets us know for whatever reason.
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@Mechanis previously spoke of how sometimes a scrying meaning won't be obvious for some time after it's first done do to unfamiliar symbols, and will simply sit in a vault somewhere until the context to decipher it becomes available. That is probably what's happening here. A bunch of pre fall visions getting figured out somehow and now our character is aware of these in quest, as a reward for the quest making quest of the month.
SaltyWaffles said:
Could we sway him towards more reasonable ends (after he gets his revenge) if we can offer soul-forging as a way to escape the Curse of Slaanesh?

Basically sway the people of Cormorragh away from being the sadistic monsters they were in canon by offering an alternative?

Alternatively, if we get artificial soul stones up and running, offering that as an alternative to sacrificing innocents to Slaanesh?
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We are powerful and getting more powerful, and tyrants usually respect that. Combine with a little help pushing up his schedule and coming up with an viable alternative to soul drinking that let's him and the rest of his people avoiding ending up in Slaanesh's gullet, and we can probably get a good working relationship going, because having a power allied nation to make sure some ambitious git doesn't oust him quite so easily as he coups the nobles is good business.

Mechanis said:
Honestly the Cormorrites are more a "M33+ problem" and even then they're more of a nuisance (on a galactic scale) until Vect pulls his coup in M35.
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How far off is that in terms of centuries?
 
Randino Treviani said:
How far off is that in terms of centuries?
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Many. 30-50 centuries from now, give or take a few decades. You are presently heading into the very, very dawn of M30; so you still have a good long while before that's a serious issue---and you'll have a rather large issue with, perhaps, a little too much fondness for gold leaf and eagles being in consideration before that.
 
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I will attempt to get the Interludes over and this on its way by next weekend at the latest, with the last mechanical vote of the turn thereafter. and hopefully at least one update a week thereafter. I do, after all, want to see what you end up doing with that tank, for a start.
 
Mechanis said:
Many. 30-50 centuries from now, give or take a few decades. You are presently heading into the very, very dawn of M30; so you still have a good long while before that's a serious issue---and you'll have a rather large issue with, perhaps, a little too much fondness for gold leaf and eagles being in consideration before that.
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Yeah that's why I'm asking. Knowing we have time to deal with bigger issues like chuckles if he does turn out to be a problem is good for planning purposes, and a millennium or two too get a proper military and regain most of our peoples Psy-Power that's being spent on resisting Slaanesh is good, as is knowing that we can knock entire millennia off vect's time as a slave.
Alectai said:
So, we almost ready to get back into the turns for this? I'm excited to see where we go!
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I think we still have one more military action, ordering troops, and Stel-Uit diplomacy, plus the final interlude before we are back to turns.
 
God, when the day comes that we discover Comorragh isn't a Daemon infested hellhole but rather the Dystopian-drug-rave-aristocracy that it is, I'm all for having Nacrintini activate another Suncracker/Big Bomb on the whole place.

BeepSmile said:
Mandrakes?
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Yeah, they're these weird-shadowy Eldar-like things that fight alongside the DE......and no one knows exactly what their deal is, the DE found them in their basement, saw them start crawling up and said "Here, take these bone-hurt injectors and go nuts".
 
Mechanis said:
I will attempt to get the Interludes over and this on its way by next weekend at the latest, with the last mechanical vote of the turn thereafter. and hopefully at least one update a week thereafter. I do, after all, want to see what you end up doing with that tank, for a start.
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What are our rewards for the whole Nacretinei mission? it's been assumed that they join our northern coalition but you haven't confirmed anything yet.
 
It is a very nice looking tank, I will admit, both in terms of it's aesthetic (like if someone took a 1950's/Cold-War era spy-plane chassis and put some anti-grav on it, to use a poor example) and it's crunch.

Lasguns are straight up useless against it thanks to the refractor field, lascannons get filtered through all 3 shields (Grav, Refractor, EDB) and anything that manages to finally hit the chassis after all that filtering will only end up hitting the armour.

Slap two Suncannons and a heavy needler on there and we've got our MBT with some absolutely delicious firepower for its size.

(On that note, I am still curious as to how much stronger our plasma weapons are since we decided to focus on its firepower, but if I have to guess, since Meltas can apparently compete with low-end plasma, our higher power Sunblasters are gonna be absolutely disgusting to use against vehicles and armour)

Either way though, any tank the Orks cook up probably won't fair well against plasma, and iirc, wasn't the Leman Russ Executioner (the one with the plasma cannon, I can't tell my Russes apart anymore) used for anti-tank roles?
 
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