Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

So, highlights of my plan above. I've started using Tutoring, which means better dice for FSA and TRF, which people apparently feel strongly about. Also, this frees up an action... that I've used for another Arm Meridian. Since we already had one Arm Meridian open, that puts us in position to get:
  • AC3 (uses previously-opened Arm Meridian)
  • FSA5 (uses Arm Meridian)
  • TRF4 (uses Spine Meridian)
  • FZ5 (uses Heart Meridian)
That puts us in position to finish up our pre-breakthrough preparations without having to open up any more Meridians, which strikes me as highly convenient.



And of course the plan still has Dragon.
 
[X] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan

A small chance of getting that last Art, and an implicit show of trust towards CRX by all but telling her we train in all other three.
Pretty sure CRX will note the subtext here. Might even trigger something if the Art Set is actually Important to have before joining the Inner Sect.


- [] Gan Guangli is planning retaliation against Liling's raiders, you've been invited to participate.
I'll also not that with buffer extraordinaire Ling Qi joining, it actually raises the chance of success of the whole thing. It would be a shame to have GG go "alone" and get wrecked if we don't join.
Just saying ...
 
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Oh. Yeah, I also added the thing about asking Cai for the last art to my vote.
You burn a favor for an arguably better effect (CRX should go out of her way to look/ask for it). Said favor is significant, the last one got us an two tiers ahead flying robe!
There's also that considering how significant said favor is I very much doubt the thing is valid as a "free action".
I'd say, IF CRX responds negatively to the mentioning free action, then spending a minor on in next week would be reasonable.


Also it has dragon, which imo is a waste of 2+ actions, at very least before breakthrough.

And no actions with expected stealth or larciny for free weekly autosuccesses.
 
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To those with the Appease the Forest job in their plans, how exactly are we preventing Renshu from sabotaging us? This seems like just the mission that he could easily ruin, and we have to go through the sect to know the necessary rites/places of the totems/perhaps required items to perform the rites.
Same way we did Dragon Fruit.
It makes perfect sense to have only a single copy of each Art.
Say it makes sense doesn't mean it makes sense.

Unless it costs them a significant amount of resources to just make jade slips, which sounds unlikely, there is no reason whatsoever for there not to be two or three sets around the Outer Mountain.

Not saying there are hundreds of Trials. But not every trial needs be a handcrafted test with Elder Tutoring as prize. A number of Sect points and some pills to the tune of Highsun/Starlight would né plenty as reward, and so would an Argent Art.
I like the gan vote..but I feel like the Argent part is way too meta.
Why? The reasoning is entirely IC, and Ling Qi herself felt there was something to accumulating Argent Arts.
 
I have to say the low turnover in missions weirds me out. Sure, we only list the missions that catch Ling Qi's interest, but we can't be the only disciple running these kind of missions. Appease the Forest feels risky to me not because of Yan Renshu but because it's been on the board for so long that it might well be too late.
 
I have to say the low turnover in missions weirds me out. Sure, we only list the missions that catch Ling Qi's interest, but we can't be the only disciple running these kind of missions. Appease the Forest feels risky to me not because of Yan Renshu but because it's been on the board for so long that it might well be too late.
Eh, there are likely dozens of Missions at a time, and we are only looking for high-end yellow or beginner green missions.

The amount of first and second years thst are Green can be counted with one's hands, perhaps on one hand.

Not to mention not everyone is dirt poor, especially those who made it this far. Or can level up arts quickly. Or has cultivation arts that base off one type of sux.
 
Say it makes sense doesn't mean it makes sense.

Unless it costs them a significant amount of resources to just make jade slips, which sounds unlikely, there is no reason whatsoever for there not to be two or three sets around the Outer Mountain.

Not saying there are hundreds of Trials. But not every trial needs be a handcrafted test with Elder Tutoring as prize. A number of Sect points and some pills to the tune of Highsun/Starlight would né plenty as reward, and so would an Argent Art.
It's not a matter of the cost of making the jade slips, it's the value of keeping it rare.
IRL printing money doesn't cost the gouvernament (much), but printing too much leads to (among other things) devaluation of said money.
Having 4, and only 4, slips in circulation for hundreds of Outer Sect disciples (depending on how many 2nd+ years can actually get them too) makes it a valid method of selections, as only the most powerful and/or lucky disciples among those that actually go out and put themselves at risk in trials, have a chance of getting these.
Having dozen slips makes them worthless as a method of selection.
 
You burn a favor for an arguably better effect (CRX should go out of her way to look/ask for it). Said favor is significant, the last one got us an two tiers ahead flying robe!
Good point. I'll change it to the
---[] During the breaks in tutoring, mention to Cai you've been looking for "the fourth" Argent Art, which you suspect is Heavens/Earth.
variant if other people express a similar preference.
 
how many 2nd+ years can actually get them too) makes it a valid method of selections, as only the most powerful and/or lucky disciples among those that actually go out and put themselves at risk in trials, have a chance of getting these.
Having dozen slips makes them worthless as a method of selection.
... But they don't select through it?

It's just another measurement of success, but far from an absolute one. There are plenty of people in the sect that are Inner/Core material and only really practice Argent Soul because it has synergy with literally everything.

Money gets inherently less valuable if one prints too much, but jade slips still ultimately countain the same art, they have inherent value, unlike money.

For all that "luck is also a skill" talk, it's undeniable they would be wasting high talent cultivators that just so happened to take a right instead of a left while exploring.

A bunch of jade slips with the Argent Arts circulating also gives factions something to fight over and hoard, something for the fighty types to duel for, something for the business types to trade for, something for the thief types to steal.

It's absolutely nonsensical there be four Argent slips for hundreds of students.

Not to mention how absurdly unlikely we've found 3/4 of them in less than a year, without really trying too hard.

It's far more likely that there is either a number of complete sets, and/or some Trials have bonus objectives which might drop one of the Argent Arts.
 
[X] Plan Dragons, not Wolves

I have zero interest in giving gifts to Li Suyin and no interest in even contemplating traveling down that path again. I think we've all seen how cringy our interactions with her were after we gifted her into eternal debt and I for one do not enjoy them.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by TotallyNotEvil on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:31 PM, finished with 227 posts and 41 votes.

  • [X] Plan Emerald Sea
    - [X] Use From Inventory: 3RSS, 1YSS, Highsun Pill, Skyblood Pill
    - [X] Buy and Use: Channel Cleansing Pill (2), Heavy Rains Pill (10), Clear Wind Pill (2), White Hart Elixir (6), Bright Sky Pill (2), Soaring Spirits Pill (6), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), second wood pill (6), Bear Marrow Elixir (4), Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10), Steady Growth Pill (8), Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    - [X] Restock Restoratives: 1 Wellspring Pill (3)
    - [X] Total Spending: 13 (stones) + 76 (medicines) + 3 (restorative) = 92 RSS
    - [X] Overflow : Physical
    - [X] Grinning Moon Blessing : AE
    - [X] Hire a tutor
    -- [X] Stamina / TRF
    -- [X] Archery / FSA
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Heart Meridian
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --- [X] Give the pen (from Renshu's base) to Suyin if we haven't already
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] FZ
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    - [X] Take a job
    -- [X] Appease the Forest
    --[X] Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
    - [X] The Ma sisters are pleasant enough to be around. Why don't you invite Su Ling to join you in sparring with them, she needs to get out more.
    -- [X] Assuming Meizhen agrees, share Growing Cavern with the Ma sisters
    - [X] You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
    [X] Plan Dragons, not Wolves
    -[X] Use From Inventory: 3RSS, 1YSS, Highsun Pill
    -[X] Buy and Use: Channel Cleansing Pill (2), Heavy Rains Pill (10), Clear Wind Pill (2), White Hart Elixir (6), Bright Sky Pill (2), Soaring Spirits Pill (6), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), second wood pill (6), Bear Marrow Elixir (4), Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10), Steady Growth Pill (8), Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total Spending: 13 (stones) + 76 (medicines) = 89 RSS
    -[X] Grinning Moon bonus -> FZ
    -[X]Overflow : Physical
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X]Heart Meridian
    --[X] (Minor) Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] (Minor) The Ma sisters are pleasant enough to be around. Why don't you invite Su Ling to join you in sparring with them, she needs to get out more.
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] Thousand Ring Fortress
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Falling Star Art
    -[X] (Minor) You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
    -[X] (Minor) You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that.
    -[X] (Minor) Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
    [X] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan
    - [X] Use From Inventory: 3RSS, 1YSS, Highsun Pill, Skyblood Pill
    - [X] Buy and Use: Channel Cleansing Pill (2), Heavy Rains Pill (10), Clear Wind Pill (2), White Hart Elixir (6), Bright Sky Pill (2), Soaring Spirits Pill (6), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), second wood pill (6), Bear Marrow Elixir (4), Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10), Steady Growth Pill (8), Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    - [X] Restock Restoratives: 1 Wellspring Pill (3)
    - [X] Total Spending: 13 (stones) + 76 (medicines) + 3 (restorative) = 92 RSS
    - [X] Overflow : Physical
    - [X] Grinning Moon Blessing : AE
    - [X] Hire a tutor
    -- [X] Stamina / TRF
    -- [X] Archery / FSA
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Heart Meridian
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --- [X] Give the pen (from Renshu's base) to Suyin if we haven't already
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] FZ
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    - [X] Take a job
    -- [X] Appease the Forest
    --[X] Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
    ---[X] During the breaks in tutoring, mention to Cai you've been looking for "the fourth" Argent Art, which you suspect is Heavens/Earth.
    - [X] Gan Guangli is planning retaliation against Liling's raiders, you've been invited to participate.
    - [X] You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
    [X] Girl's night out with Lan Lan
    [X] Girl's night out with Lan Lan
    -[X]Market Pills : Relevant ones.
    -[X]Rare Pills : Highsun, Skyblood
    -[X]Overflow : Physical
    -[X]Grinning Moon Blessing : AE
    -[X]Hire a tutor
    --[X]TRF
    --[X]FSA
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X]Heart Meridian
    --[X]Stop forgetting to give the pen to Suyin.
    --[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] FZ
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Take a job
    --[X]Wolfpack Hunt
    --[X] Take Xiulan along for a girl's night out.
    -[X] Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot. LOCKED
    -[X] You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    -[X] You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
    [X] Plan Escaping Eyesight
    -[X] Resources:
    --[X] Bought and used: Channel Cleansing Pill (2); Heavy Rains Pill (10); Clear Wind Pill (2); Bright Sky Pill (2); Vigorous Sapling Pill (2); Bear Marrow Elixir (4); Bear's Heart's Blood Elixir (10); White Hart Elixir (6); Soaring Spirits Pill (6); Steady Growth Pill (8); Sturdy Oak Pill (18); 2nd level wood Pill (6)
    --[X] Used: 1 High Sun Pill; 1 Skyblood Pill; 3 Red Spirit Stones; 1 Yellow Spirit Stone
    --[X] Used and bought?: Any wood pills Cai directed us to
    --[X] Total: 79 Red Spirit Stones; 1 Yellow Spirit Stone
    --[X] Overflow to Physical
    --[X] EPC bonus successes: Abyssal Exhalation
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    ---[X] Spine Meridian
    ---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] Visit the Archive
    ---[X] Anti-Scrying formations
    ---[X] You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
    --[X] Train with Meizhen
    ---[X] Heart Meridian
    --[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    ---[X] TRF
    --[X] Hire a Week tutor From the Inner Sect
    ---[X] FSA
    ----[X] Use Windblown Site
    ----[X] Archery
    ---[X] FZ
    ----[X] Athletics
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
    ---[X] Ask her if she knows where to get good wood cultivation pills
    --[X] You never did get to go out have a night on the proverbial town with Xiulan, see if she's still up for that
    [X] Plan Emerald Seas
    [X] Plan Dragons, not Wolves
    -[X] Use From Inventory: 3RSS, 1YSS, Highsun Pill
    -[X] Buy and Use: Channel Cleansing Pill (2), Heavy Rains Pill (10), Clear Wind Pill (2), White Hart Elixir (6), Bright Sky Pill (2), Soaring Spirits Pill (6), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), second wood pill (6), Bear Marrow Elixir (4), Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10), Steady Growth Pill (8), Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
    -[X] Total Spending: 13 (stones) + 76 (medicines) = 89 RSS
    -[X] Grinning Moon bonus -> FZ
    -[X]Overflow : Physical
    -[X] Call in a Favor from Lady Cai. We are looking for the last Argent Art; can she find out where the Trial Site is, or who has claimed it if the Trial Site has already been used?
    -[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
    -[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
    --[X]Heart Meridian
    --[X] (Minor) Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
    --[X] (Minor) The Ma sisters are pleasant enough to be around. Why don't you invite Su Ling to join you in sparring with them, she needs to get out more.
    -[X] Train with Meizhen
    --[X] Spine Meridian
    -[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    ---[X] Note: open this Meridian after the other two
    -[X] Hire a tutor (gives -1 minor, +1 major)
    --[X] Archery / Falling Star Art
    --[X] Stamina / Thousand Ring Fortress
    -[X] (Minor) You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
    -[X] (Minor) Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
 
A point in favor of dealing with Dragon stuff now.


Zhengui started hibernating at the beginning of week 32. That means that if he sleeps for a full month, he is going to wake up on week 36.
We are currently making plans for week 35, and since this is merely making plans and not carrying them out, the very earliest we could possibly appease the dragon is also week 36.

In other words: if we don't start on the Dragon questline now, we are going to be losing out on the ability to let Zhengui cultivate there. Given that at least half of the point of the site in my eyes is to help Zhengui, that is a hefty cost to pay.
 
@yrsillar

I feel like I have to ask: if we join the raid by Gan Guangli, can we bring along the Ma sisters? They are Cai followers after all and there's no reason not to bring more people on a raid like this.
 
@Katreus @Black Noise @Karnax626 @Grigori @Peter87 @Ordis @AbeoLogos @Aze @Kaja Rainbow @instantia @Neshuakadal @SynchronizedWritersBlock @Dessard

I feel "[] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan" is superior to the default Emerald Sea. Could I perhaps convince any of you to switch?

The vote is starting to split and Dragon is threatening taking a lead.
Original Emerald Sea has more votes right now. I'll only switch if the with Gan variation overtakes it.
 
@Katreus @Black Noise @Karnax626 @Grigori @Peter87 @Ordis @AbeoLogos @Aze @Kaja Rainbow @instantia @Neshuakadal @SynchronizedWritersBlock @Dessard

I feel "[] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan" is superior to the default Emerald Sea. Could I perhaps convince any of you to switch?

The vote is starting to split and Dragon is threatening taking a lead.
I see the Gan action switching with the Ma action. Since I prefer the Ma action I will not be switching.
 
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