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tricholysis said:
I don't think the dragon is actually as set as you think. I for one am not too keen on it and some people have voiced dislike of the action. It's at the very least contested. And including it in your plan even though it's a non-preferred action for you seems like a good way to make your intuition of the thread into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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It isn't a non-preferred action; it is a neutral one, or slightly on the positive side. I'm not married to it, but I'm not removing it when there is a voter push for such a plan.

If the plan loses, it loses. That is fine, as long as it doesn't lose to the "lets charge into a group of ravenous wolves that outnumber us and out-rank us!" plan.
 
PrimalShadow said:
It isn't a non-preferred action; it is a neutral one, or slightly on the positive side. I'm not married to it, but I'm not removing it when there is a voter push for such a plan.

If the plan loses, it loses. That is fine, as long as it doesn't lose to the "lets charge into a group of ravenous wolves that outnumber us and out-rank us!" plan.
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There is a fail safe in that plan though: if things get really bad we dont have to outrun the wolves, we just have to outrun Xiulan.:V
 
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Disappointed that no one wants to take the Gan Guangli retaliation action, especially since it's just a minor and it's definitely available for just this one turn. Why not take the Ma sisters along on that instead of training with them together with Su Ling? One is support and can amplify Ling Qi's music, the other specializes in defending support. They would be great.

I really wanted Ling Qi to have more combat experience against other cultivators before the big tournament. Running away from opponents doesn't count! Plus participating in this probably earns Ling Qi some Cai merit points.
 
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SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
[X] Plan Emerald Sea

e: although, can you fix the formatting? The Indenting is wrong
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I'm not sure why the tally looks weird. It looks fine on my own post when I click through to it.

Also, I just realized we used a Wellspring Pill during the spar with the Ma Twins so those who are voting for Plan Emerald Sea, I've added in picking up a Wellspring Pill to bring us back up to 2 as standard.
 
[X] Arkeus

Sometimes you just have to go burn a couple dozen beings to death with a friend so that you can feel good about yourselves and each other. @Arkeus understands and supports that murderous impulse. Vote Arkeus today.
 
Grigori said:
Pretty sure lil sis is around 2 and Meizhen being unlocked early, at 8, was unusual and questionably harmful
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IIRC, not harmful in itself, just unusual; cultivating at the young age is pretty inefficient and small headstart generally just doesn't really matter. Forcing really young children to cultivate is probably a pain, too; they are children.

Meizhen's case was a little bit different because method her family used to awaken her Qi (and she used on Ling Qi) is agonizingly painful and not something that should be used on a young child barring extreme circumstances. Her further training, and, I presume, methods her family used to ensure that she is properly motivated to cultivate even at such young age were likewise pretty extreme.

Bais are pretty abusive toward their young. Granted, considering they are forced to send them away to pretty hostile Sects might justify their actions somewhat.
 
Prospalz said:
IIRC, not harmful in itself, just unusual; cultivating at the young age is pretty inefficient and small headstart generally just doesn't really matter. Forcing really young children to cultivate is probably a pain, too; they are children.

Meizhen's case was a little bit different because method her family used to awaken her Qi (and she used on Ling Qi) is agonizingly painful and not something that should be used on a young child barring extreme circumstances. Her further training, and, I presume, methods her family used to ensure that she is properly motivated to cultivate even at such young age were likewise pretty extreme.

Bais are pretty abusive toward their young. Granted, considering they are forced to send them away to pretty hostile Sects might justify their actions somewhat.
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I'm pretty sure that it isn't a common practice among the Bai either. Just one of many ways Meizhen is an odd Bai. Started weirdly early, overly emptional, disinterest in politics, cowardly craven for a father etc.

I suppose the talk of it being harmful was just speculation.
 
[X] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan
- [X] Use From Inventory: 3RSS, 1YSS, Highsun Pill, Skyblood Pill
- [X] Buy and Use: Channel Cleansing Pill (2), Heavy Rains Pill (10), Clear Wind Pill (2), White Hart Elixir (6), Bright Sky Pill (2), Soaring Spirits Pill (6), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), second wood pill (6), Bear Marrow Elixir (4), Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10), Steady Growth Pill (8), Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
- [X] Restock Restoratives: 1 Wellspring Pill (3)
- [X] Total Spending: 13 (stones) + 76 (medicines) + 3 (restorative) = 92 RSS
- [X] Overflow : Physical
- [X] Grinning Moon Blessing : AE
- [X] Hire a tutor
-- [X] Stamina / TRF
-- [X] Archery / FSA
--[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
---[X] Heart Meridian
---[X] Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
--- [X] Give the pen (from Renshu's base) to Suyin if we haven't already
--[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
---[X] FZ
--[X] Train with Meizhen
---[X] Spine Meridian
- [X] Take a job
-- [X] Appease the Forest
--[X] Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
---[X] During the breaks in tutoring, mention to Cai you've been looking for "the fourth" Argent Art, which you suspect is Heavens/Earth.
- [X] Gan Guangli is planning retaliation against Liling's raiders, you've been invited to participate.
- [X] You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.

So as the option says, the Ma sisters are pleasant enough to be around. They are not pleasant enough to turn into an action sink however. Also, I think that training a couple of bodyguards is just not useful when we are already preparing escape contingencies. We would have to ask ourselves if we want to escape and leave them to Liling's mercy, and that is not a question I think is worth putting to the thread if we get to know them too well. In this variant of things I dropped the minor spending time with the bodyguards and hoping some day they are relevant, and replaced it with stopping Liling's raiders.

Sooner or later Liling is going to come back for another swing, probably at us personally. I would prefer that her organization have as few resources at that point as possible. If she is low on raiders and grunts then she will not be able to counter the enforcers with her own mooks, and they will be able to dogpile named characters, allowing our named characters to show up to stop Liling. Knocking down her organization with minors is a good thing that we should do when we can.
 
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I don't think we need to worry too much about Liling's organization; she and the other powerhouses are the real threat here. Ling Qi'll do better doing what's optimal to improve herself than staying in the spotlight picking off some minions that are ultimately not decisive. It's not like they're killing off the raiders anyway, just more of the same skirmishing. That plan doesn't add anything from Ling Qi's perspective, since her interest is in individuals in the factions not its overall "score"; and it splits the people who aren't impatient for the wolf and dragon options across two votes.

[X] Plan Emerald Sea
 
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Dessard said:
I don't think we need to worry too much about Liling's organization; she and the other powerhouses are the real threat here. Ling Qi'll do better doing what's optimal to improve herself than staying in the spotlight picking off some minions that are ultimately not decisive. It's not like they're killing off the raiders anyway, just more of the same skirmishing. That plan doesn't add anything from Ling Qi's perspective, since her interest is in individuals in the factions not its overall "score"; and it splits the people who aren't impatient about the wolf and dragon options across two votes.

[X] Plan Emerald Sea
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From Ling Qi's perspective training with the two minions just helps them. Fighting the raiders with a group provides the possibility of some interesting loot to be had from them.
 
Dessard said:
It's not like they're killing off the raiders anyway, just more of the same skirmishing.
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Currently the raiders are stripping Cai's enforcers naked and leaving them tied up. As it stands they gain equipment and cash whenever they do this, and it makes Sun look strong. If her raiders get utterly wrecked and not only aren't profiting from working for Sun, but are in fact losing stuff that they need then I don't think they will hang around. We have already seen that losing is enough to make people abandon Sun's faction, and a weaker organization under her makes it harder for her to cause trouble that we can't get away from.
 
[X] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan

It's worth noting that some minors give us progress on a ton of skills, and I suspect Raiding is one of them.

Might even give stealth sux. And loot.

PrimalShadow said:
-[] Call in a Favor from Lady Cai. Can she find out where the last Test Site is, or who has passed it if it has been taken already?
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The wording on that is presumptuous. It assumes we know the exact number of Trials and copies of the Argent Arts available. Still, I'm in favor of something like that.

@mc2rpg Could you attach something like:
--[] During the breaks in tutoring, mention to Cai you've been looking for "the fourth" Argent Art, which you suspect is Heavens/Earth.
 
To those with the Appease the Forest job in their plans, how exactly are we preventing Renshu from sabotaging us? This seems like just the mission that he could easily ruin, and we have to go through the sect to know the necessary rites/places of the totems/perhaps required items to perform the rites.
 
[X] Plan Emerald Sea with Gan

If it has Gan Guangli in it, I votes for it.
 
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I still think TRF/FSA is kinda ridiculous. However, since it seems to be the flavor of the day, I'm going to see about adding it to my plan anyways.


[X] Plan Dragons, not Wolves
-[X] Use From Inventory: 3RSS, 1YSS, Highsun Pill
-[X] Buy and Use: Channel Cleansing Pill (2), Heavy Rains Pill (10), Clear Wind Pill (2), White Hart Elixir (6), Bright Sky Pill (2), Soaring Spirits Pill (6), Vigorous Sapling Pill (2), second wood pill (6), Bear Marrow Elixir (4), Bear's Heartsblood Elixir (10), Steady Growth Pill (8), Sturdy Oak Pill (18)
-[X] Total Spending: 13 (stones) + 76 (medicines) = 89 RSS
-[X] Grinning Moon bonus -> FZ
-[X] Overflow : Physical
Actions
-[X] Research Dragons, and how one might be appeased
-[X] Train at the vent with Su Ling
--[X] Heart Meridian
--[X] (Minor) Work on formations with Li Suyin, working on a project with your friend will be fun
--[X] (Minor) The Ma sisters are pleasant enough to be around. Why don't you invite Su Ling to join you in sparring with them, she needs to get out more.
-[X] Train with Meizhen
--[X] Spine Meridian
-[X] Explore and Train with Golden Fields
--[X] Arm Meridian
---[X] Note: open this Meridian after the other two
-[X] Hire a tutor (gives -1 minor, +1 major)
--[X] Archery / Falling Star Art
--[X] Stamina / Thousand Ring Fortress
-[X] (Minor) You need escape contingencies. Start working on that.
-[X] (Minor) Cai Renxiang is going to help you get your mothers legal troubles worked out, and give you a crash course on basic law to boot.
---[X] During the breaks in tutoring, mention to Cai you've been looking for "the fourth" Argent Art, which you suspect is Heavens/Earth.
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Nervaqus987 said:
I'm not sure that there's only one copy of the Argent Arts floating around.

The Outer Sect is a combination workforce and talent scouting for the Argent Sect. It doesn't make much sense to me to limit the Argent Arts available to only a handful of people out of the entire Outer Sect. Now granted, only a very small fractions moves to the Inner Sect, namely Eight from the Tournament and Eight from the Production track.

On the flip side, all of the Argent Arts we've seen so far have come from Trial Sites(plus some Elder tutoring) and it doesn't seem super likely to me that there's only four Trial Sites. I'm willing to bet that the Heaven/Earth Art will be behind another Trial and that we'll probably need to bring a buddy to open the door, which means either Meizhan or Xiulan.

Maybe even Cai, depending on things.
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Counter point: The Sect only really cares for a handful of each yearly batch :two batch of eight to be exact.
The rest are "kindly" offered a second chance next year and if they still can't prove themselves a cut above the rest, they are discarded as mostly useless.
It makes perfect sense to have only a single copy of each Art. Getting one is probably prof the disciple is actually worth something, and getting the whole set is going above and beyond.
Just like there isn't hundred of Trials sites around.
 
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