Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
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I disagree, I think that getting a tutor for TRF/FSA is exactly what we want to do. In fact, my future long-term plans were thinking of doing it twice (week 35/36). This is the best way to get TRF and FSA done and over with by week 36. All other tutoring actions that we could take would be weird. We can't train AS right now, and even if we could I'm not sure we could get 50 successes needed to get AS3 with a tutor. Getting a tutor for AC is a bit of a waste in my opinion when it could get level 3 in one action anyway. SCS and FVM and AM are already done. That leaves FZ, which we would get without a tutor, and FSA/TRF. (also, we can't tutor AS because that needs to be done with the Golden fields group, at least to my understanding).
It's a bit of a weird combo, but I would stylize it as woodsman training. Also, apparently there has been some chatter that wood and wind are closely related to each other elementally (in the imperial and standard system). So there is some connection there.
Yrs... said that he wasn't going to be doing the meridian in bonuses very much anymore. We can not rely on that as a method by which to get meridians.
If I am doing my math right, then we would need 55 points of overflow into physical to get us at about 50/50 odds of getting physical without a mission. I don't think that is happening, and planning on placing a 30 point EPC bonus there makes it much more likely (especially from overflow by training FZ).
- Location
- Malaysia
Rereading some of the early posts, I see that Xiulan does actually have a room mate but she is never shown and Xiulan does not appear to care about her at all. Odd that.
This is Gu Xiulan we are talking about, she probably acted horribly to her room mate. In her interlude she commented on that she found it strange that she even became close to another girl. In truth Xiulan is a huge b*tch to anyone not Ling Qi or Han Jian.
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- United States of America
Xiulan can be grating even towards her friends. I'm sure that they both made terrible impressions of each other on the first day that they met, but both are too stubborn to simply move out, as that would display weakness. The roommate probably doesn't want to curry favor with Xiulan's friends either because of a mindset where "anybody who can be friends with her must be crazy, and I don't want to be friends with crazy."
Either that, or the roommate was a supporter of Sun Liling's ideas of "law of the Jungle" cultivation, and so she is training with Liling and Xiulan no longer has a roommate.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
The bit about the meridian was, from my understanding, "you need to gamble the overflow, with normal meridian failure consequences". @yrsillar probably will OK/No it by the time we make plans though.
As for physical, we are currently at 53/180, and can get around 100 successes from the 2 highsun. This means we just need another 27 or so overflow, which I am confident we can get, either through FZ or meridians or some other things.
Which reminds me I should precise physical overflow in my plan.
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I'm seeing that we are at 43/180, and that we can get about 95/100 from 2 highsun pills. It would be great if we don't have to place an action or EPC mission success into physical to get it, but I am not as confident as you are about that.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Unless AS demands 10 more successes than AM/AC for the second layer, we are at 53/180. We also have 88 dice for the highsun pills, so 166, which is around 100 successes.
What Ling Qi doesn't do is almost as important as what Ling Qi does do.
Remember the field trip where we fought the Crow Tribe shaman? Ling Qi was given multiple opportunities to interact with mortals or at least red-level guardsmen. The thread ended up not voting for them.
Whether or not that was the correct choice given the constraints and available knowledge is a topic for a different time. However, it is an incontestable fact that post-mission, Su Ling took note of the fact that Ling Qi did not really pay attention to the general plight of mortals or red-level cultivators. This was not what the thread had intended with the votes, but it was a logical extrapolation: she didn't think they mattered or could help and has thus a somewhat hands-off relationship with mortals in general.
This is the first time Ling Qi's has had actual minions assigned to her. What we do here matters in more ways than just 'oh, it's another social commitment in an already overstuffed social calendar': it represents, to some extent, how Ling Qi instinctively treats her underlings. Does she think they are useless? Does she care about what they might bring to the table? Does she think they are worth talking to at all during an entire week where they're following her around bodyguarding her?
I said I wouldn't advocate for X position, but as time sensitive minors go, this one is up there when it comes to shaping Ling Qi's character.
Because, well, try to imagine being assigned bodyguards - and then further imagine what kind of person it'd take to not interact with them past the bare minimum - and then apply those traits to Ling Qi because it's effectively what you're voting for. Li Suyin's a good friend, those formations are awesome, but as these things go, it can wait.
Edit: I should clarify: it's not 'wrong' not to vote for it. Ling Qi being an insular, extremely private person is fine. It's a perfectly legitimate vote and feel free to argue that that is the direction you think is most in-line with Ling Qi's character and where you want her character to grow. But if you think that the minor was thoughtlessly included, well, it wasn't.
Good argument.
Pushed me over the edge towards voting for
[X] Plan Meridians are Dorks.
- Location
- Cyberspace
A fun little adventure with the Golden Fields group. Still kinda concerned about their group dynamics though. Poor Fan Yu is trying (and actually doing pretty well), but Gu Xiulan's really getting restless. Nice to see Ling Qi noticing more subtle social cues now (not trying to usurp Fan Yu's role, noticing Meizhen's pause, that kind of thing).
Well well well... how interesting.
On the art itself - physical enhancement and *movement* art; very helpful. Will need a total of four meridians, mostly spine and a bit of leg. Some speed and initiative boosting (always helpful
), raises the weapon cap (very nice), some buff against physical.
Irritating that Rumbling Squall's renewal can't be reduced, but it's a moderately helpful defensive boost. Some stacking could really tank Ling Qi (and Zhengui) nicely now. A mild retaliation with the deafening might be handy - sure, Sun Liling probably has 6 or 7 Stamina, but hey, it's a shot
A three-charge counterattack technique, not too bad.
All in all perhaps not as intriguing (yet) as Argent Mirror or Thousand Ring Fortress, but a reasonable art. Put the leg on the list of meridians to open, but it's probably lower priority than Argent Current... although its Wind nature means that Ling Qi'll train it faster.
No new passives or techniques for Argent Current, but some boosts here and there looks like.
Abyssal Exhalation is getting close to turning over - I donno, I feel like Ling Qi shouldn't try and go for the third level before hitting Green - it'll need too much progress.
The favor seems... kinda distasteful. Not unexpected, but donno.
Expression's capped out though, on the bright side.
Well well well... how interesting.
On the art itself - physical enhancement and *movement* art; very helpful. Will need a total of four meridians, mostly spine and a bit of leg. Some speed and initiative boosting (always helpful
), raises the weapon cap (very nice), some buff against physical.Irritating that Rumbling Squall's renewal can't be reduced, but it's a moderately helpful defensive boost. Some stacking could really tank Ling Qi (and Zhengui) nicely now. A mild retaliation with the deafening might be handy - sure, Sun Liling probably has 6 or 7 Stamina, but hey, it's a shot
A three-charge counterattack technique, not too bad.
All in all perhaps not as intriguing (yet) as Argent Mirror or Thousand Ring Fortress, but a reasonable art. Put the leg on the list of meridians to open, but it's probably lower priority than Argent Current... although its Wind nature means that Ling Qi'll train it faster.
No new passives or techniques for Argent Current, but some boosts here and there looks like.
Abyssal Exhalation is getting close to turning over - I donno, I feel like Ling Qi shouldn't try and go for the third level before hitting Green - it'll need too much progress.
The favor seems... kinda distasteful. Not unexpected, but donno.
Expression's capped out though, on the bright side.
No the Highsun is better used on the next 3 meridians we need to open.
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Another option:
Propsperous Spores Art
Attributes: Wood, Wind, Yin
Meridians: Heart, Lung, Head
Through the medium of spores the user seeds their surroundings with qi and marking recipients for tracking and enhancing the efficacy of sequential spiritual attacks.
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Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Right, so I said 7 hours ago that if no one expressed distate for it I would add that in my plan. No one has, so I'll add it. If anyone dislikes it, please poke.
- Location
- United States of America
Eh, I'll add it too. We need all the help we can get for getting TRF by week 36.
As always, if people don't like it, just poke me as well.
As always, if people don't like it, just poke me as well.
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
@yrsillar:
AM and AC also needed 20 for first level and 30 for second level, why is Wind element AS, who should benefit from the above, needing 30 successes instead of 20 for the second level ?
Won't the second highsun pill cover us for the rest of the pre-breakthrough meridians? I didn't think we needed that many.
After breakthrough we'll have a lot more dice to throw around. Right now I think we're edging from the flat part of the meridian failure curve onto the steep part, which seems like an ideal time to use performance enhancing drugs.
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Excuse me her name's Hong Lin and she's my friend!!
About the production track sabotage:
How we repay Fu Xiang's favor will probably affect not only our relationship with him, but also how Ling Qi returns favors in general and her stance on gratitude.
I personally dislike what he asks of us, but Ling Qi shouldn't, she generally is not a virtous/good person (really, Ling Qi is neutral at best) and only cares about "her and hers".
By sabotaging the production specialists, she also indirectly helps Su Ling and Suyin, as already mentioned.
So, the most appropriate question is not "If", but "How much" should Ling Qi help Fu Xiang?
1) Sabotaging one cultivator: Bare Minimum.
Likely cools our relationship with Fu Xiang to "interact only when absolutely needed".
Ling Qi considers fulfilling her part of the deals/contracts only to the letter of law, not an inch more, and will generally attempt to weasel out from obligations when possible.
2) Sabotaging two cultivators: Our working relationship with Fu Xiang remains generally genial. Possibility of further deals.
Ling Qi generally believes in upholding her part of the bargain in both word and spirit of the deal, and values her word given more than previously.
3) Sabotaging three cultivators: Ling Qi goes above and beyond on her side of the deal. Likely a bonus from Fu Xiang.
Their relationship progresses. Greater chance for goodies being shown Ling Qi's way.
Ling Qi both values greatly her word, but also seeks to reward those who aid her unprompted to express her gratitude.
On the flipside, the more cultivators sabotaged, the greater the risk of: sect sanctions, making (talented) enemies with a grudge, loss of face/reputation, worsening relationship with at least Suyin.
That said, my stance is:
In for a penny, in for a pound.
We sabotage all three.
But we do it smart. We wait until we are Green, preferably with a level more in SCS.
How we repay Fu Xiang's favor will probably affect not only our relationship with him, but also how Ling Qi returns favors in general and her stance on gratitude.
I personally dislike what he asks of us, but Ling Qi shouldn't, she generally is not a virtous/good person (really, Ling Qi is neutral at best) and only cares about "her and hers".
By sabotaging the production specialists, she also indirectly helps Su Ling and Suyin, as already mentioned.
So, the most appropriate question is not "If", but "How much" should Ling Qi help Fu Xiang?
1) Sabotaging one cultivator: Bare Minimum.
Likely cools our relationship with Fu Xiang to "interact only when absolutely needed".
Ling Qi considers fulfilling her part of the deals/contracts only to the letter of law, not an inch more, and will generally attempt to weasel out from obligations when possible.
2) Sabotaging two cultivators: Our working relationship with Fu Xiang remains generally genial. Possibility of further deals.
Ling Qi generally believes in upholding her part of the bargain in both word and spirit of the deal, and values her word given more than previously.
3) Sabotaging three cultivators: Ling Qi goes above and beyond on her side of the deal. Likely a bonus from Fu Xiang.
Their relationship progresses. Greater chance for goodies being shown Ling Qi's way.
Ling Qi both values greatly her word, but also seeks to reward those who aid her unprompted to express her gratitude.
On the flipside, the more cultivators sabotaged, the greater the risk of: sect sanctions, making (talented) enemies with a grudge, loss of face/reputation, worsening relationship with at least Suyin.
That said, my stance is:
In for a penny, in for a pound.
We sabotage all three.
But we do it smart. We wait until we are Green, preferably with a level more in SCS.
IIRC arts for tutoring need to have common element or meridian.
TRF can be trained with AC, AS, FZ
FSA can be trained with FZ, AC, AS
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There is no such requirement. It's just that the tutor you get has to be proficient in both types of arts so they can help you with the both of them, and so most of the time we should have two related arts or two arts that can work together.
If we train Resolve/TRF and Archery/FSA we could get a defensive archer as our tutor. There's nothing preventing the two arts from working together.