Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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Since the Great Plan Arguing Period has passed, I want to comment on several things in the chapter.
1) Elder Jiao lesson - He was kinda of an ass but when he questioned Ling Qi on "What in the world do you want?' he had an a point (Not about formations though. Ling Qi specialty is formation arts, it's right there on the character page!). All of the people around Ling Qi have an dream they strive towards or a goal they wish to accomplish, while Ling Qi doesn't have one. The most she wants out of life is simply to be content with her friends and her drive of cultivation is simply borne out of fear of being abused. She is quite purposeless and thus is easily drawn into the goals of others.
2) Zhengui - Showed himself as a sneaky turtle, one might say a ninja turtle.
No wait, someone already made that observation. But seriously, can Spirit beasts learn the equivalent of arts or is it all instinctual? Cui mentioned that it's possible he can show Zhengui how to minimize himself, does that mean that older Spirits can help younger ones?
Actually a more pressing question, is Zhengui a turtle or a tortoise? His parent was a tortoise and Xuan Wu is a tortoise, but with his fire affinity and snake tail can he even swim?
3) Su Ling- Ling Qi advice bothers me here. She mentioned that it's OK to invest in stuff that is simply fun (mimicking Ruan Shen advice to an extant) but when did Ling Qi simply played the flute for the music itself? Or simply when hanging out with her friends? It strikes me as a mite hypocritical.
4) The letter - I like it that even after all that's passed between Ling and Meizhen Ling still considers Meizhen her best friend. Also now Ling's younger sister can win all contest of 'my big sister can beat up your big sister' by mentioning the xuan wu.
EDIT: Oh, the new Arguing Era has began anew.
1) Elder Jiao lesson - He was kinda of an ass but when he questioned Ling Qi on "What in the world do you want?' he had an a point (Not about formations though. Ling Qi specialty is formation arts, it's right there on the character page!). All of the people around Ling Qi have an dream they strive towards or a goal they wish to accomplish, while Ling Qi doesn't have one. The most she wants out of life is simply to be content with her friends and her drive of cultivation is simply borne out of fear of being abused. She is quite purposeless and thus is easily drawn into the goals of others.
2) Zhengui - Showed himself as a sneaky turtle, one might say a ninja turtle.
No wait, someone already made that observation. But seriously, can Spirit beasts learn the equivalent of arts or is it all instinctual? Cui mentioned that it's possible he can show Zhengui how to minimize himself, does that mean that older Spirits can help younger ones?
Actually a more pressing question, is Zhengui a turtle or a tortoise? His parent was a tortoise and Xuan Wu is a tortoise, but with his fire affinity and snake tail can he even swim?
3) Su Ling- Ling Qi advice bothers me here. She mentioned that it's OK to invest in stuff that is simply fun (mimicking Ruan Shen advice to an extant) but when did Ling Qi simply played the flute for the music itself? Or simply when hanging out with her friends? It strikes me as a mite hypocritical.
4) The letter - I like it that even after all that's passed between Ling and Meizhen Ling still considers Meizhen her best friend. Also now Ling's younger sister can win all contest of 'my big sister can beat up your big sister' by mentioning the xuan wu.
EDIT: Oh, the new Arguing Era has began anew.
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Ugh. These all look appealing to some degree. Go for more offense, or go for more defense. Or go for more mobility and just run circles around the enemy. Questions, questions.
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Alright, so:
Driving Zephyr is offense support focused. Zephyr's Heart is Defence support focused, and Fleeting Zephyr is Movement support focus.
Driving conflicts with AC in function. Heart conflicts with TRF in function. They might not be exactly the same in how they do things, but we already have Offence support and Defence support.
We do not, on the other hand, have Movement support. It does not overlap with any of our arts (SCS is purely personal), and it has general utility and enhancing Ling Qi's already high speed, making it easier for us to escape or perform maneuvers with a group of people.
This can help us in situations where we're leading a group of people like the mortals back in the trial.
At least, that's my reasoning for choosing:
[X]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
Driving Zephyr is offense support focused. Zephyr's Heart is Defence support focused, and Fleeting Zephyr is Movement support focus.
Driving conflicts with AC in function. Heart conflicts with TRF in function. They might not be exactly the same in how they do things, but we already have Offence support and Defence support.
We do not, on the other hand, have Movement support. It does not overlap with any of our arts (SCS is purely personal), and it has general utility and enhancing Ling Qi's already high speed, making it easier for us to escape or perform maneuvers with a group of people.
This can help us in situations where we're leading a group of people like the mortals back in the trial.
At least, that's my reasoning for choosing:
[X]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
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[]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
Tentative vote. If this allows us to speed our allies to keep with Ling Qi ridiculous speed, it would be great. Specially for Zengui.
I am ok with driving too, we can never have too many attack dice.
Tentative vote. If this allows us to speed our allies to keep with Ling Qi ridiculous speed, it would be great. Specially for Zengui.
I am ok with driving too, we can never have too many attack dice.
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[X]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
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Alright, so we have three options.
A) offensive projectile support
B) Strong defensive support
C) Movement speed support.
We don't have many utility skills, especially those that affect a group of people. So Fleeting Zephyr is appealing. I'm not too sure about driving zephyr as we don't have many allies that actually use projectiles, that we can be sure to reasonably fight with. A strong defensive art would stack ridiculously well with TRF, but I'm not sure if we need it.
I'm going to go with
[X]Fleeting Zephyr
I'm not sure if it will be used as a core mechanic in our kit, and if we will replace ZB with AC or AM or FSA or the Yan Renshu art, but fleeting zephyr looks like an art that will allow allies to keep up with us (for extraction purposes!) as well as cover the one major weakness to Zhengui, his speed. We make Zhengui faster, he will be a terror on the battlefield.
A) offensive projectile support
B) Strong defensive support
C) Movement speed support.
We don't have many utility skills, especially those that affect a group of people. So Fleeting Zephyr is appealing. I'm not too sure about driving zephyr as we don't have many allies that actually use projectiles, that we can be sure to reasonably fight with. A strong defensive art would stack ridiculously well with TRF, but I'm not sure if we need it.
I'm going to go with
[X]Fleeting Zephyr
I'm not sure if it will be used as a core mechanic in our kit, and if we will replace ZB with AC or AM or FSA or the Yan Renshu art, but fleeting zephyr looks like an art that will allow allies to keep up with us (for extraction purposes!) as well as cover the one major weakness to Zhengui, his speed. We make Zhengui faster, he will be a terror on the battlefield.
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A movement support art is useful but will it not conflict with previous talk of a group stealth/movement art or would you want this instead of that? It wouldn't fulfill the exact same role but I'm not sure how much we'd want both.
Driving on the other hand, would provide that damage boost to knives that we talked about as the main reason for getting ZB+ and I would say that ranged offensive boost and AC, which appears to be a melee offensive boost, are pretty different.
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[X]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
Speed buffs! Ensures Ling Qi is also the fastest among her peers, and retains the First Strike bonus from SCS.
Also, Zhengui is a slowturtle, which won't change, but maybe with Fleeting Zephyr he could keep up just a little?
Speed buffs! Ensures Ling Qi is also the fastest among her peers, and retains the First Strike bonus from SCS.
Also, Zhengui is a slowturtle, which won't change, but maybe with Fleeting Zephyr he could keep up just a little?
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Guys, remember the passives!
Driving is very likely to give bonus dice to offense if using projectiles, and likely even more range.
Driving is very likely to give bonus dice to offense if using projectiles, and likely even more range.
So Driving Zephyr helps with FSA, might overlap with AC or it might enhance it. DZ helps with hitting and AC breaks through defences. Allies like Xiulan and others that like ranged attacks will get bonuses fighting with us.
Zephyr's Heart helps with TRF or it might overlap. FVM and SCS is also part of our defensive suit so it will have to compete there also. Allies that do not want the bad touch will like this, but melee people will get irritated.
Fleeting Zephyr helps with SCS(?) or atleast with movement arts overall. We do not really have anything that enhances our allies speed and we are a lot faster then pretty much all of them. Allies that likes hit and run keep away will like it.
Zephyr's Heart helps with TRF or it might overlap. FVM and SCS is also part of our defensive suit so it will have to compete there also. Allies that do not want the bad touch will like this, but melee people will get irritated.
Fleeting Zephyr helps with SCS(?) or atleast with movement arts overall. We do not really have anything that enhances our allies speed and we are a lot faster then pretty much all of them. Allies that likes hit and run keep away will like it.
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I doubt we'll ever get that movement/stealth group art. At least any time before the tournament. So I'm settling for this one.
[X] Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
Speed is life.
Speed is life.
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Fair point. There probably wouldn't be much point in pushing for it in the near future and who knows, maybe Fleeting could lead to it.
[X]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
We have defence art boosting defence of allies. Time for utility art doing the same with movement.
We have defence art boosting defence of allies. Time for utility art doing the same with movement.
[X] Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
Going with this for now...
Going with this for now...
TheLastOne
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Same thought. I don't think this is a good investment, but to the extent it is useful, it will be the passive.
[X] Driving Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon offense, driving forth allied missiles on the scathing eastern winds to strike home in the heart of the enemy
5, and yeah they start late gold
Spirits don't exactly learn arts, they develop inborn ones, tho they can pick up some basic utility tricks from other spirits
[X]Fleeting Zephyr: An evolution of the common wind arts of the south. This branch focuses upon utility, guiding the user and their allies on fleet spring winds, granting them speed and fleetness of foot to escape or flank their foes.
There were multiple case where more ally speed could have been usefull before. Also, it will probably upgrade into flight for allies.
edit: Also, rincewind had it right. The most important is not to be the most powerfull but rather to be the best at running away.
There were multiple case where more ally speed could have been usefull before. Also, it will probably upgrade into flight for allies.
edit: Also, rincewind had it right. The most important is not to be the most powerfull but rather to be the best at running away.
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