I agree. I would not be in favor of using the single-day tutoring for any of our abilities right now.
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
[X] Plan Investigate that Condor
-[X] Resources: 2 Red Stones, 1 Clearing Wind Pill
-[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Falling Stars Art
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Spiritual
-[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
--[X] Eight Phases Ceremony
--[X] Speak with Bai Meizhen, her... intense training methods have made things a little awkward between you
-[X] Find a job
--[X] Hunt the Crimsonwing Condor
-[X] Find a job
--[X] Investigate Disappearances
--[X] With Su Ling
-[X] Attend the next 'government' meeting that Lady Cai has called
-[X] Head to the market for some shopping
-[X] Spend more time with Su Ling, learning harvesting techniques and getting to know the girl better
So this would be my ideal plan for the turn. The aim is to finally do what some people (@Alectai ) have been urging us to do, and take a double mission as they gain us; sect points, stats and skill points, various rewards from completing them, and they allow us to explore the area we're staying potentially unlocking even more.
The missions I've gone for are the condor as both the SCS3 and our bow, we should be able to handle this particularly if we unlock Falling Stars Art this week as it'd make it greatly easier. Combined with the above is going to the market so we can get a proper bow given how quickly it's leveling, so we can see how it compares considering we've currently only got a training bow. Second would be the investigative mission that's been there a couple weeks now, and is bound to vanish very soon. This would be a shame as it provides a great deal of points for both Ling Qi and the ally she goes with, strengthening them both.
The cultivation actions taken are FSA which if completed would make both the missions easier, spiritual as the week after we can reach mid yellow, and EPC to continue learning the cultivation art.
For social actions one is on the market so we can purchase a new bow and perhaps see what else is available, one is obviously on attending the meeting which has shot up in importance given Ling Qi was being impersonated and because I believe Ji Rong is getting unfrozen this week so may also be at the meeting, and finally Su Ling as she knows some incredibly valuable skills and she's my preferred option to take on the investigation mission. She's was also attempting to breakthrough last turn, so it may be a celebratory meeting.
Resources are rather light with the EHC bonus, and because I don't believe it necessary to go on a pill/cultivation turn given that's what happened last week. We're no longer in a life or death battle to rise up in the sect, as we've garnered favour with other influential members of the outer sect, and have just unlocked SCS3 and gotten an attack art.
This notably gets us enough sect points that we could afford an entire weeks worth of Inner Sect instruction next week if that was desired.
-[X] Resources: 2 Red Stones, 1 Clearing Wind Pill
-[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Falling Stars Art
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Spiritual
-[X] Train with Bai Meizhen
--[X] Eight Phases Ceremony
--[X] Speak with Bai Meizhen, her... intense training methods have made things a little awkward between you
-[X] Find a job
--[X] Hunt the Crimsonwing Condor
-[X] Find a job
--[X] Investigate Disappearances
--[X] With Su Ling
-[X] Attend the next 'government' meeting that Lady Cai has called
-[X] Head to the market for some shopping
-[X] Spend more time with Su Ling, learning harvesting techniques and getting to know the girl better
So this would be my ideal plan for the turn. The aim is to finally do what some people (@Alectai ) have been urging us to do, and take a double mission as they gain us; sect points, stats and skill points, various rewards from completing them, and they allow us to explore the area we're staying potentially unlocking even more.
The missions I've gone for are the condor as both the SCS3 and our bow, we should be able to handle this particularly if we unlock Falling Stars Art this week as it'd make it greatly easier. Combined with the above is going to the market so we can get a proper bow given how quickly it's leveling, so we can see how it compares considering we've currently only got a training bow. Second would be the investigative mission that's been there a couple weeks now, and is bound to vanish very soon. This would be a shame as it provides a great deal of points for both Ling Qi and the ally she goes with, strengthening them both.
The cultivation actions taken are FSA which if completed would make both the missions easier, spiritual as the week after we can reach mid yellow, and EPC to continue learning the cultivation art.
For social actions one is on the market so we can purchase a new bow and perhaps see what else is available, one is obviously on attending the meeting which has shot up in importance given Ling Qi was being impersonated and because I believe Ji Rong is getting unfrozen this week so may also be at the meeting, and finally Su Ling as she knows some incredibly valuable skills and she's my preferred option to take on the investigation mission. She's was also attempting to breakthrough last turn, so it may be a celebratory meeting.
Resources are rather light with the EHC bonus, and because I don't believe it necessary to go on a pill/cultivation turn given that's what happened last week. We're no longer in a life or death battle to rise up in the sect, as we've garnered favour with other influential members of the outer sect, and have just unlocked SCS3 and gotten an attack art.
This notably gets us enough sect points that we could afford an entire weeks worth of Inner Sect instruction next week if that was desired.
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Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Where was it said they give an additional full roll? That would change things very slightly, though not enough for it to be worth it until we chose to only ddo sect jobs giving 20-30.
Three actions is still not worth it tbh. 6 probably is. And yeah, using it to raise basic stats faster is nice, but keep in mind we are going to max almost our stats by the end of the year anyway.
Stats are more of a long term thing after you get the first few, and it really doesn't matter if we max them 2 months before hitting green or one. Or at least, I think it doesn't matter enough for us to spend actions on it.
[X] Plan OPERATION FLUFFY TAIL
-[X] Use From Inventory: 2 red stones, 1 Clear Wind Pill
-[X] Buy and Use: Steady Growth Pill, Flowing Rivers Pill, White Hart Elixir, Bear Marrow Elixir (24 red stones)
- [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Falling Stars Art
- [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
-- [X] Spiritual
- [X] Train with Bai Meizhen
-- [X] Physical
---[X] Ask how much in the way of cores your turtle will eat.
---[X] Drop the mental training if we can't handle it right now. Getting better at this sort of thing is worth doing, but not at the cost of tainting our interactions with Meizhen.
- [X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Take a job (Investigate the Disappearances)
--[X] Ask Su Ling for help
-[X] Head to the market for some shopping.
--[X] Look to buy a bow and arrows of some kind
--[X] Look to see if there's anything you can use to play music without using your hands
--[X] Check the sale price for some of your beast cores
- [X] Attend the next 'government' meeting that Lady Cai has called
- [X] Make sure Gu Xiulan does not bite off more than she can chew with her scheme
-[X] Use From Inventory: 2 red stones, 1 Clear Wind Pill
-[X] Buy and Use: Steady Growth Pill, Flowing Rivers Pill, White Hart Elixir, Bear Marrow Elixir (24 red stones)
- [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Falling Stars Art
- [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
-- [X] Spiritual
- [X] Train with Bai Meizhen
-- [X] Physical
---[X] Ask how much in the way of cores your turtle will eat.
---[X] Drop the mental training if we can't handle it right now. Getting better at this sort of thing is worth doing, but not at the cost of tainting our interactions with Meizhen.
- [X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Take a job (Investigate the Disappearances)
--[X] Ask Su Ling for help
-[X] Head to the market for some shopping.
--[X] Look to buy a bow and arrows of some kind
--[X] Look to see if there's anything you can use to play music without using your hands
--[X] Check the sale price for some of your beast cores
- [X] Attend the next 'government' meeting that Lady Cai has called
- [X] Make sure Gu Xiulan does not bite off more than she can chew with her scheme
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Grosstoad
Birdbrain - Dick - Rules-Lawyer - Creeper
+scratches head+
I had something...
Ah, yes! Spirits!
Can someone remember how many spirits a cultivator of Ling Qi's stage can bind?
AS5 allows binding up to Grade 1, plus discounting the semi-permanent Qi Drain by 2 (min. 1), while EPC1 allows binding of grade 2.
Oh, EPC is directly stated to be Moon in the stats page. Nice to have it confirmed.
I am wondering if we can request binding with Grade 1 (Moon) Rabbits, while preparing for Torkoal and perhaps yukimusume.... What's the chinese name for ice spirits, anyway?
I had something...
Ah, yes! Spirits!
Can someone remember how many spirits a cultivator of Ling Qi's stage can bind?
AS5 allows binding up to Grade 1, plus discounting the semi-permanent Qi Drain by 2 (min. 1), while EPC1 allows binding of grade 2.
Oh, EPC is directly stated to be Moon in the stats page. Nice to have it confirmed.
I am wondering if we can request binding with Grade 1 (Moon) Rabbits, while preparing for Torkoal and perhaps yukimusume.... What's the chinese name for ice spirits, anyway?
- Location
- United States of America
Anyway, I can't wait to see what SCS 3 does! Will we become like the shadow? Will we get even more movement speeds and passives? Will we get a higher slope that we can ignore? All of these questions will be answered, eventually!
Yes, if we can get 3 actions boosted by tutoring I would definitely be in favor of picking it. Only, I'm not sure I can think of any three actions that would get the bonus together...
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Eh, with +10-15 dice to three rolls, that works out to +30-45 dice, plus major skill growth, and some networking. I think it's worth it at 3. Though I'm actually going to push a somewhat less efficient plan at some point, because I think the social benefit would be worth it.
To be specific, I'm thinking of doing something like this with a week trainer.
[]Hire a inner sect trainer to teach combat skills for us and all our our friends and close allies
-[]Train with them on melee skills
-[]Train with them on ranged skills
-[]Train with them on them with ambush/detection
-[]Train with them on survival/hunting
-[]Train with them on group tactics and leadership skills
--[]Keep a watch out to smooth ruffled feathers. Your different groups of friends might benifit from getting to know each other, if they could just get along for a bit.
[] Cultivate physical
Yeah we get less dice/skill growth (though I wonder how well you can do tactics outside a group, as those are group actives), but it would help all our friends, and help us by helping them.
- Location
- United States of America
Meridan opening (more overflow is always good), if we get another spine art than we can train in the spine arts.
But yeah, until we get more arts, we probably won't have the three actions that would make tutoring really good.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
*Points at plan train up our friends to be strok*
- Location
- United States of America
While I think we are uniquely built for having multiple spirits because of are qi remember we also have to consider the qi drain, the growth of our spirit , feeding them, training them, socializing them, and fighting alongside them.
High grade spirits like turtle will have a higher learning curve, wild lv 1 spirits aren't stupid but they...have a different mindset then socialized spirits who have grown alongside humans for some time. Also ...we killed rabbits for cui... and cui would sure love her some moon rabbit stew
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
As far as we know we are only limited by Qi. I squeeeeed when I realised that, as it means that summoner-style was very possible if we wanted to. Sadly it seems people are bent on not going that way, but...
The networking is a reason to do it sometimes, but it's not a reason to 'push it a lot'. However, sharing a inner sect disciple with our friends for a week is a great reason to spend 30 points. Especially if we rotate on doing that.
Anyway, I thought that for a week it would be just one thing they help, just they would help for the whole week? So []wind arts, not []'everything'
3 actions is still a net loss unless we can get the 30 sect points in one action, I believe.
There is no limit to number of spirits bound, but every spirit takes up Qi - which means that the Qi we are willing and able to "give up" is what bounds the quantity/quality of spirits we can take on.
The Volcanic Tyrant Tortoise hatchling is rare and powerful enough that I expect it to have a rather sharp Qi cost, so even though we get nice bonuses to Qi from our Argent Foundation, I think we would be hard pressed to manage multiple spirits past that one right now.
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
[X] Plan for Progress
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Yeah wind arts. Though one person asked if we could pick 'combat arts' and yrsillar sort of said yes - I'm guessing we would get inferior dice bonuses if we picked something that broad - like 6-8 dice instead.
Codex
Fantasy Addict
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Well, this is what Yrsillar said:
He said it will proc a roll, which I take to mean it will proc a roll even if we spend another action doing that roll as well. For example if we train Stamina, it will proc a Physical cultivation roll, which will not affect us if we choose to do normal physical cultivation with Han Jian's group. This essentially makes us capable of double cultivation. Well, that's how I interpreted it, and I could very well be wrong. We'd have to ask Yrsillar to be sure.
It will still be a grade 1 or 2 when it hatches though and I think there was some mention of the upkeep going down with better SL with the spirit. So I doubt it will be that expensive.
Well, keep in mind that most actions give 30-40 dice, so we only really get one action worth of dice back here, despite 30 sect points being worth 2-3 actions. I agree that the other perks might close the gap, though.
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
So Han Jian's family seem to be the most important with the Gu and Fan as likely vassals. We know that Gu has older sisters Han Jian and Heijin interacted with, what's the chance that the Han heir is engaged to the talented elder Gu in the inner sect while the younger was promised to another clan? Just to add another possible bit of drama.
So this was no easier to read the second time. Sort of feel that to stop training togetherwould just leave this as a dark cloud hanging over their relationship, have to push through.
Yay again. All coming together
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Yeah, if you are right it changes things. As long as we can reliably get 15 sect point per actions it might be worth doing it for things like cultivating art. double-roll in a week and the +15 success being done regularly would be huge for that.
Pretty sure they won't, to be honest. Still it's worth doing for things like skills sometimes for the hard ones to train like subterfuge and so on.
- Location
- United States of America
Yes yes, But I was writing my post when you were posting your own.
speaking of Qi and our levels of qi, I'm thinking that we are in a prime place to do a massive increase in our qi reserves in a couple of weeks. We have the sable light combo with Dark moon Pill. We could then use the HIghsun pill and get a tutor for opening meridians and set the overflow to qi. We would get a massive amount of qi that way. The question is, would it be worth it to get that qi now so we have it for trials and missions and fights or try to wait for the most opportune time to use it?
Two notes on Meridian opening.
1. I'm not sure if we can ask for general meridian-opening training, or if we have to specify the specific meridian (e.g. Lung Meridians)
2. Overflow goes right into Physical/Spiritual, which means that we would need 3-4 meridian actions to get the equivalent of one Physical/Spiritual cultivation action. The efficiency isn't exactly there.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
We've been told Han Jian was a playboy earlier and had a relationship with Gu Xiulan's sisters that made her turn the way she is when it comes to jealousy.
A fun thing though is that all points to Gu's family used to be a major clan like the Bai before their decline, and now they are probably vassals to their old vassals.
Not worth it. The effective power we get from a Sable Light Pill is fairly small, it's the successes that are large. Sable Light Pill well used effectively means winning a couple months of Qi cultivation, but 'a couple months' isn't that many Qi points.Yes yes, But I was writing my post when you were posting your own.
speaking of Qi and our levels of qi, I'm thinking that we are in a prime place to do a massive increase in our qi reserves in a couple of weeks. We have the sable light combo with Dark moon Pill. We could then use the HIghsun pill and get a tutor for opening meridians and set the overflow to qi. We would get a massive amount of qi that way. The question is, would it be worth it to get that qi now so we have it for trials and missions and fights or try to wait for the most opportune time to use it?
This is even worse considering we are EPC1 and not late/late. We can probably get +12 auto-success per Qi action when EPC is maxxed for Yellow, and that's not counting the ridiculous synergy from a tutor week and pills.
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