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Alectai said:
Why a Starlight Elixir? You're not training any Arts there.
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Breakthrough.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jun 9, 2017 at 2:01 PM, finished with 14577 posts and 17 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haitei
    - [X] Resources - Bear Marrow Elixir, 3 Red Stones
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -- [X] Arm Meridian
    -- [X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    -- [X] EPC
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    - [X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] Plan A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Starlight Elixir
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans. Give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    -- [X] EPC
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    [X] Plan Expanding Horizons
    -[X] Three Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir
    -[X] Major Actions
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    ---[X] Ask them if they want to do an investigation mission together. Split three ways instead of two it will be sixteen sect point for Suyin and Ling Qi, and eighteen for Su Ling for her greater hunting experience.
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    ---[X] Investigate Disappearances
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Steady Progress
    -[X] Use 3 red stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Channel Cleansing Pill (costs 9 red stones total)
    - [X] Take a Job
    --[X] Moonfill Mission
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -- [X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -- [X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [x] Plan Pills
    -[x] Use resources: (Maximum number of Red and Yellow Stones with Vent), Sable Light Pill, Highsun Pill, Darkmoon Pill, buy Bear Marrow Elixer and use.
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    --[X]Meridian arm
    --[x] Meridian (Head)
    --[x] Meridian (Heart)
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Spiritual
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Roundup
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Highsun Pill
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Open Meridian
    ---[X] Spine
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    -- [X] EPC
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    --[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    - [X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] Plan: All Hands, Brace for Work!
    -[X] Resources: 3 Red Spirit Stones
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    --[X] Intermediate hunting Mission
    -- [X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    --[X] Sable Crescent Step
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
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Mmmh. Liking @TheLastOne's idea of lots of sect job so I might change later, but I guess for now I'll vote for a plan that seems to be what I was thinking of earlier.

[X] Plan A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
Kshail said:
Use 3 Red stones Please? There's no reason not to. The vent gives a free red or yellow not both.
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Do we know this? As far as I know we have just been saying '3' in case it didn't, but we don't know. @yrsillar? Also, I'll probably ask you later again, but I guess we need archive level 2 or 3 if we want an art that boosts our other art by making them harder to dispel?
 
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Shadell said:
Breakthrough.
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But... It triggers a physical cultivation roll when you train a Combat Art.

You're not training any Combat Arts, so you're wasting half of the effect.

Honestly, I think we might want to consider doing a second Job this turn, to give us a large cushion to turn to RSS and load up enough of a cushion that we can do another mission next turn to put us over the top, to grab a Martial Art from the second level of the Archive.
 
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Alectai said:
But... It triggers a physical cultivation roll when you train a Combat Art.
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It triggers one physical cultivation roll on use and gives bonus dice to cultivation arts. So yes, this is a somewhat suboptimal use, but it's not that terrible given that the unlocked bonus is larger.

If we don't want to use it terribly, we could cut the pill and swap physical for a meridian I guess, but that puts off the breakthrough until next turn.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jun 9, 2017 at 1:45 PM, finished with 14556 posts and 11 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haitei
    [X] Plan Expanding Horizons
    -[X] Three Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    ---[X] Ask them if they want to do an investigation mission together. Split three ways instead of two it will be sixteen sect point for Suyin and Ling Qi, and eighteen for Su Ling for her greater hunting experience.
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    ---[X] Investigate Disappearances
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    [X] Plan Man Up
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 red stones, channel cleansing pill, Bear Marrow Elixir (9 stones in total)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X]Meridian arm
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    -[X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    -[X] Resources
    -[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Starlight Elixir
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    -[X] EPC
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    [x] Plan Pills
    -[x] Use resources: (Maximum number of Red and Yellow Stones with Vent), Sable Light Pill, Highsun Pill, Darkmoon Pill, buy Bear Marrow Elixer and use.
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    --[X]Meridian arm
    --[x] Meridian (Head)
    --[x] Meridian (Heart)
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Steady Progress
    -[X] Use 3 red stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Channel Cleansing Pill (costs 9 red stones total)
    --[X] Take a job
    --[X] Moonfill Mission
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
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Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jun 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, finished with 14578 posts and 18 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haitei
    - [X] Resources - Bear Marrow Elixir, 3 Red Stones
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -- [X] Arm Meridian
    -- [X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    -- [X] EPC
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    - [X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] Plan A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Starlight Elixir
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans. Give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    -- [X] EPC
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    [X] Plan Expanding Horizons
    -[X] Three Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir
    -[X] Major Actions
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    ---[X] Ask them if they want to do an investigation mission together. Split three ways instead of two it will be sixteen sect point for Suyin and Ling Qi, and eighteen for Su Ling for her greater hunting experience.
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    ---[X] Investigate Disappearances
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Steady Progress
    -[X] Use 3 red stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Channel Cleansing Pill (costs 9 red stones total)
    - [X] Take a Job
    --[X] Moonfill Mission
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -- [X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -- [X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [x] Plan Pills
    -[x] Use resources: (Maximum number of Red and Yellow Stones with Vent), Sable Light Pill, Highsun Pill, Darkmoon Pill, buy Bear Marrow Elixer and use.
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    --[X]Meridian arm
    --[x] Meridian (Head)
    --[x] Meridian (Heart)
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Spiritual
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Roundup
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Highsun Pill
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    -- [X] Physical
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Open Meridian
    ---[X] Spine
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Cultivate on your own
    -- [X] EPC
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    --[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    - [X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] Plan: All Hands, Brace for Work!
    -[X] Resources: 3 Red Spirit Stones
    - [X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    - [X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    - [X] Take a Job
    -- [X] Moonfill
    --[X] Intermediate hunting Mission
    -- [X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    - [X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    --[X] Sable Crescent Step
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    - [X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    - [X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
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pheonix89 said:
@TheLastOne
What do you think about switching the spine Meridian cultivation in your plan for EPC?
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I don't like it? We need to be trying to open a Meridian every turn, we don't have a Meridian to put SCS into, and I expect Moonfill to give us a Moon aligned location that will give us some of the same auto-successes we got from the Argent Vent, except for moon.
 
If people are that desperate for mid silver buying a bear marrow elixir and a white hart elixir and doubling down on physical cultivation for a single week is vastly superior to using a rare resource for nothing like its full effect.

I like @TheLastOne's plan except for not doing a Su Ling action the week we're going hunting. Though I guess the write in might do the same thing.

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[X] Plan Steady Progress

I like the minor actions better.
 
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tricholysis said:
I'll vote this for now but I'm pretty swayable.
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The biggest drawback is that ther'es no Suyin action, so there's a good possibility she'll backslide or be harder to move later.

Humbaba said:
If people are that desperate for mid silver buying a bear marrow elixir and a white hart elixir and doubling down on physical cultivation for a single week is vastly superior to using a rare resource for nothing like its full effect.
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The elixir's rare because it generates an action. Wasting an action instead of using the elixir is a net loss, better to just use the elixir now and get a cheap pill for arts later if we do it that way.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jun 9, 2017 at 1:48 PM, finished with 14560 posts and 12 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haitei
    [X] Plan Expanding Horizons
    -[X] Three Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    ---[X] Ask them if they want to do an investigation mission together. Split three ways instead of two it will be sixteen sect point for Suyin and Ling Qi, and eighteen for Su Ling for her greater hunting experience.
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    ---[X] Investigate Disappearances
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Steady Progress
    -[X] Use 3 red stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Channel Cleansing Pill (costs 9 red stones total)
    --[X] Take a job
    --[X] Moonfill Mission
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    [X] Plan Man Up
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 red stones, channel cleansing pill, Bear Marrow Elixir (9 stones in total)
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X]Meridian arm
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    -[X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    -[X] Resources
    -[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Starlight Elixir
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    -[X] EPC
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    [x] Plan Pills
    -[x] Use resources: (Maximum number of Red and Yellow Stones with Vent), Sable Light Pill, Highsun Pill, Darkmoon Pill, buy Bear Marrow Elixer and use.
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    --[X]Meridian arm
    --[x] Meridian (Head)
    --[x] Meridian (Heart)
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
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Right, going to sleep, but I'm picking this for now since it has both a Suyin and a Su Ling action, and I think both of those are more important than Meizhen/Xiulan for this week. I could be persuaded that Meizhen/Xiulan is more important than Suyin, but I think Su Ling is absolutely necessary so we don't screw up the Moonfill mission. Also, earlier we get advice on what we can do with beast cores, earlier we can start planning, both for profit, and for our baby.

[X] Plan Steady Progress
 
@Katreus You might want to vote for your own plan so that it appears on the vote tally system.

Speaking of which, it is almost exactly the same as my plan, but uses the social actions better, so consider my vote changed.

[X] Plan Haitei
 
@TheLastOne: Thoughts on swapping physical cultivation for spiritual? The latter's really lagging behind and the advantage to pushing physical is that we breakthrough. If we're not likely to do it this action anyway, it seems to make more sense to push up spiritual now then fold physical+a pill in when we go heavier into arts or meridians next week.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jun 9, 2017 at 1:51 PM, finished with 14565 posts and 14 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haitei
    [X] Plan Steady Progress
    -[X] Use 3 red stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Channel Cleansing Pill (costs 9 red stones total)
    --[X] Take a job
    --[X] Moonfill Mission
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    [X] Plan Expanding Horizons
    -[X] Three Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    ---[X] Ask them if they want to do an investigation mission together. Split three ways instead of two it will be sixteen sect point for Suyin and Ling Qi, and eighteen for Su Ling for her greater hunting experience.
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    ---[X] Investigate Disappearances
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    -[X] Resources
    -[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Starlight Elixir
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    -[X] EPC
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    [x] Plan Pills
    -[x] Use resources: (Maximum number of Red and Yellow Stones with Vent), Sable Light Pill, Highsun Pill, Darkmoon Pill, buy Bear Marrow Elixer and use.
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    --[X]Meridian arm
    --[x] Meridian (Head)
    --[x] Meridian (Heart)
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Roundup
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Highsun Pill
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Open Meridian
    ---[X] Spine
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    -[X] EPC
    [X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    -[X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
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@Shadell Would you mind switching the Han Jian attached minor to be a separate minor and instead attach the Suyin action as the bonus minor? Really no difference in proposed actions but the implication of mixing training with politics irks me. I'd rather it seem we ask him for advice as something that stands alone.

[X] A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
 
Humbaba said:
If people are that desperate for mid silver buying a bear marrow elixir and a white hart elixir and doubling down on physical cultivation for a single week is vastly superior to using a rare resource for nothing like its full effect.

I like @TheLastOne's plan except for not doing a Su Ling action the week we're going hunting. Though I guess the write in might do the same thing.

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[X] Plan Steady Progress

I like the minor actions better.
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I am recruiting Su Ling to help us with hunting though. I'm even 'bribing' her by giving her the largest share of the sect points.
 
[X] Plan Roundup
-[X] Resources
--[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Highsun Pill
-[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Physical
---[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Open Meridian
---[X] Spine
-[X] Take a job
--[X] Moonfill
-[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] EPC
-[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
--[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
-[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
-[X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan

A different version of Arkeuses sketch.

It uses the Highsun Pill instead of Starlight, and opens a Meridian instead of Spiritual cultivation. This is to breakthrough to Middle Silver and prepare for the second stage of SCS. It also switches training with Bai Meizhen with hanging out with Bai and Gu. Don't want to tangle with Bai until we reach Middle Yellow, so that we at least have a chance of not being totally embarrassed.

Now excuse me, I need to go wash myself for making a plan which does not cultivate spiritual.
 
Kshail said:
@Shadell Would you mind switching the Han Jian attached minor to be a separate minor and instead attach the Suyin action as the bonus minor? Really no difference in proposed actions but the implication of mixing training with politics irks me. I'd rather it seem we ask him for advice as something that stands alone.
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Done.

Also forgot to add plan to the title, so it's not getting parsed right Would you mind changing your vote to match.
 
Alectai said:
[X] Plan: All Hands, Brace for Work!
-[X] Resources: 3 Red Spirit Stones
-[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
-[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
--[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
-[X] Take a job
--[X] Moonfill
--[X] Intermediate hunting Mission
---[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
-[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
--[X] Sable Crescent Step
-[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
-[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
-[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea

A cheap plan, gets us "How to into hunting 101" between Han Jian's group and Su Ling's tutoring, and puts us in a good position to convert Sect points to RSS while having enough that the stuff we learn now will be enough to browse the second level for some real nice toys next turn, since we'd only need to take one more mission then.
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This plan will unequip our Argent Mirror Art, making it so we can't get the autosuccesses on it due to vent. It also does no progress towards Middle Silver.
 
Shadell said:
@TheLastOne: Thoughts on swapping physical cultivation for spiritual? The latter's really lagging behind and the advantage to pushing physical is that we breakthrough. If we're not likely to do it this action anyway, it seems to make more sense to push up spiritual now then fold physical+a pill in when we go heavier into arts or meridians next week.
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Why do we care about spiritual lagging behind? You've brought this up repeatedly, but I've yet to see a reason why we should see it as a meaningful drawback.
 
PrimalShadow said:
Why do we care about spiritual lagging behind? You've brought this up repeatedly, but I've yet to see a reason why we should see it as a meaningful drawback.
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It takes a set amount of time to push forward on core cultivation, and these give us our biggest bonuses.

We can't really meaningfully push spiritual faster, so the more we delay the longer it will be behind. This pushes our Green breakthrough further back and costs us resource use, as well as raw power and will soon likely start to hurt us on training EPC past low ranks as well as art progress on things like FVM and core masteries.

Basically, if we delay this, we can't easily catch up (unlike physical, where we have more pills and train faster) and it'll eventually delay most of our most essential progress in arts.

The advantage to pushing physical is the breakthrough, but that goes away if we're not getting it now anyway, so it makes more sense to pull up spiritual than push forward on physical, since we should get the breakthrough next week if not now.

The meridian won't actively hurt us this round, as it's quick to adjust, but every round delayed on spiritual is a cumulative training debt that needs to be paid off, and it's better to do that before, say, AMA and SCS cap.
Adhoc vote count started by Shadell on Jun 9, 2017 at 1:58 PM, finished with 14573 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] Plan Haitei
    [X] Plan Steady Progress
    -[X] Use 3 red stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Channel Cleansing Pill (costs 9 red stones total)
    --[X] Take a job
    --[X] Moonfill Mission
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Arm Meridian
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    [X] Plan Expanding Horizons
    -[X] Three Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir
    -[X] Major Actions
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    ---[X] Ask them if they want to do an investigation mission together. Split three ways instead of two it will be sixteen sect point for Suyin and Ling Qi, and eighteen for Su Ling for her greater hunting experience.
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    ---[X] Investigate Disappearances
    -[X] Minor Actions
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan A Moonless Night is Full of Stars
    -[X] Resources
    -[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Starlight Elixir
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    -[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans. Give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    -[X] EPC
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    --[X] Bring up the idea of training together with Meizhen. You are strong enough now, right?
    [x] Plan Pills
    -[x] Use resources: (Maximum number of Red and Yellow Stones with Vent), Sable Light Pill, Highsun Pill, Darkmoon Pill, buy Bear Marrow Elixer and use.
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Meridian (Spine)
    --[X]Meridian arm
    --[x] Meridian (Head)
    --[x] Meridian (Heart)
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    -[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    [X] Plan Roundup
    -[X] Resources
    --[X] 3 Red Spirit Stones, Bear Marrow Elixer, Highsun Pill
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    ---[X] Physical
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Open Meridian
    ---[X] Spine
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    -[X] Cultivate on your own
    -[X] EPC
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    --[X] Mention everything you know about how to make an optimal breakthrough to the next realm, and give her your last Qi Foundation Pill.
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
    -[X] Have a girls day out with Bai Meizhen and Gu Xiulan
    [X] Plan: All Hands, Brace for Work!
    -[X] Resources: 3 Red Spirit Stones
    --[X] Work on getting the egg to hatch
    --[X] Train at the vent with Suyin and Su Ling
    --[X] Eight Phase Ceremony
    --[X] Take a job
    ---[X] Moon Fill
    --[X] Intermediate hunting Mission
    -[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics and harvesting from her
    --[X] Train by hunting with Han Jian and his group
    --[X] Sable Crescent Step
    --[X] Li Suyin is doing better, coax her out into studying, and talk to her about her plans
    --[X] Ask Han Jian to give you a little instruction about the politics of your situation. He seems like a more unbiased source
    --[X] Accept Cai Renxiang's invitation to tea
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