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The previous subclause would have included that discussion. The problem would be that it would put off the discussion to Han Jian for another week, but we would still have to have the discussion.
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
Isn't that good though. We'll have a better read on both Jian and Suyin/Ling after this week if you include the subclause to the Vent action and then next week we'll have more information to decide if it's a good idea or not.
The subclause has been removed; you are now safe to vote for [] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River again.
[X] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River
Meizhen might very well take place in the tournament just to stick with us, since we're her first and only friend.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
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Yeah. Huang Da is actually behind Han Jian now, both combat ability wise and cultivation wise. Han Jian got to Yellow first and Silver first, and Han Jian is getting pressured by us. Huang Da is one of those we can win in 1vs1 by punching his teeth in even with a pure support build.
The dangerous ones are Cai Rexiang/Bai Meizhen/ Sun Liling/ Ji Rong/ Xuan, a couple of unknown, and people from above our years.
Meizhen still learned Argent Soul. She has everything to gain and nothing to lose by being a inner sect student.
hey I'm like 10 pages behind, while I work to catch up Is there a plan that goes,
it feels like most of the plans our ignoring Spiritual for an art.
Physical
Spiritual (alone)
Argent Soul
Bai Meizhen
Han Jian "maybe talking about bindings spirits with the lion"
Mother or maybe tokens, i'm flexible there
Spiritual (alone)
Argent Soul
Bai Meizhen
Han Jian "maybe talking about bindings spirits with the lion"
Mother or maybe tokens, i'm flexible there
it feels like most of the plans our ignoring Spiritual for an art.
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BTW, I hope everyone has been greatly enjoying Ji Rong's brief presence. He's a loner with a dark past and broody and angsty, and now, he's got girls falling all over themselves because he's super special with his highest innate talent. And, of course, he's already a braggart and incredibly lucky given his background but instead of being smacked down for bragging about killing someone, he was acknowledged by the meeting head. He also has 2 pretty boy rivals who are seemingly strong and yet behind or about to be behind him in cultivation. They will probably still challenge him before losing publicly and humiliatingly because that's what happens when you challenge a xianxia MC. 
The best part about this entire thing is how Ling Qi is avoiding the entire plot line such as she can by being completely oblivious as to what else is going on in the Sect (i.e. Xiulan's dry comment on Ji Rong and his fangirls).
The best part about this entire thing is how Ling Qi is avoiding the entire plot line such as she can by being completely oblivious as to what else is going on in the Sect (i.e. Xiulan's dry comment on Ji Rong and his fangirls).
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TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Despite the name, it's three cultivation actions, three social actions.
[X] Plan A Cultivator is a Social Animal
-[X] 3 Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Argent Elixir
-[X] Discuss with Meizhen what you can help her with
--[X] Also ask if she would like a introduction to Xuilan.
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Ask Su Ling and Li Suyin prior, and if they agree discuss trading access to a high quality Spirit Stone and Argent Soul vent in exchange for resources/talismans/training and being cordial to those who found it. Make it clear we don't need a cut.
--[X] Cultivate Forgotten Vale Melody
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
--[X] If Su Ling and Li Suyin okayed it, tell him they found a vent, and are up for making a deal to share it's use. If he's interested, arrange the meeting.
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] If the above went well, bring Su Ling and Li Suyin.
--[X] Cultivate Crescent Sable Step
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Physical
[X] Plan A Cultivator is a Social Animal
-[X] 3 Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Argent Elixir
-[X] Discuss with Meizhen what you can help her with
--[X] Also ask if she would like a introduction to Xuilan.
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Ask Su Ling and Li Suyin prior, and if they agree discuss trading access to a high quality Spirit Stone and Argent Soul vent in exchange for resources/talismans/training and being cordial to those who found it. Make it clear we don't need a cut.
--[X] Cultivate Forgotten Vale Melody
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
--[X] If Su Ling and Li Suyin okayed it, tell him they found a vent, and are up for making a deal to share it's use. If he's interested, arrange the meeting.
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] If the above went well, bring Su Ling and Li Suyin.
--[X] Cultivate Crescent Sable Step
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Physical
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[] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River
Is the leading vote that has Han Jian in it.
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In retrospect, there are 16 slots
8 for combat, 8 for production.
Li Suyin probably has a good chance at it if she focuses on formations.
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- his hidden lair
[X] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River
I have to say, even if there's a bit of a split in how Coursing River goes from here- I'm pretty proud how this discussion has been handled on all sides. @Thor's Twin has been receptive to discussion even before he dropped the subclause and there's been fairly little ad hominem on both sides.
I know it's a contentious issue- and I'm not going to sit here and say the venters don't have merit, but in terms of salt spilled, we've pulled out the knives more for shopping, so I'm pretty impressed.
Of course, I'm probably a bit biased in all this.
I have to say, even if there's a bit of a split in how Coursing River goes from here- I'm pretty proud how this discussion has been handled on all sides. @Thor's Twin has been receptive to discussion even before he dropped the subclause and there's been fairly little ad hominem on both sides.
I know it's a contentious issue- and I'm not going to sit here and say the venters don't have merit, but in terms of salt spilled, we've pulled out the knives more for shopping, so I'm pretty impressed.
Of course, I'm probably a bit biased in all this.
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Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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I honestly don't know if Han Jian himself will be able to make it.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
He won't. It's why he isn't on the list of 'people who will get a slot.'
if I cared about only one action that would help, screw it i'll just hit the tally.
Hopefully his Formations expertise means he goes for the Production path.
As a matter of Face, I can't see Bai Meizhen not participating. It would be amusing if she got put up against Ling Qi and we had to beat her. The way she talked about "top eight performers" has me think the rankings and tournament are slightly more involved than a simple ranked elimination tournament. Well, hope anyway.
Both leading votes have the rest of your list.
Edit: or most of it at least. They're doing FVM instead of Spiritual.
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The problem for me with cultivating spiritual right now, is that I want AS 5 done as fast as feasibly possible, and the Argent Elixir helps with that, but that means we should be cultivating physical and arts rather than spiritual.
My votes gone from you as well Thor's.
I'm just not sure people understand or empathize what Han Jian's group is going though. They feel they aren't advancing quick enough, they see someone who only started cultivating when she came to the sect start surpassing them, they helped that girl out and specifically Han Jian stuck his neck out for us when his teammates were against it, and we benefited from it. We have access to a valuable resource that they have great need off, and not mentioning it is frankly going to ruin the friendship. We kept something they desperately wanted and likely believe they needed a secret from them. We didn't even try and offer it to them.
That is friendship ending. They stuck out their necks for us, and you guys aren't even willing to try if there's a chance of failure. The chance of failure is also small when you consider the price isn't going to be extortionate, Ling Qi herself wouldn't be taking any of it, Han Jian is a naturally emphatic individual and trades of this variety should be common knowledge among nobles, and the value of an equivalent in resources is substantially more expensive. That's without considering the site can combine it's bonuses with resources, nor that they can draw upon their families resource base to enhance their growth. Nor the sheer length that value can be had, given at minimum the Inner Sect test is in 9 months.
The argument about merging of groups is also rather poor given for me that's never what it's been about. I wouldn't even argue that Ling Qi is apart of Han Jian's group as she's clearly still on the outside given they grew up with one another, but they interact with one another and have a mutually beneficial relationship. Just as Bai Meizhen is capable of working together with Su Ling and Li Suyin, yet I certainly wouldn't class them as part of the same group. This should be what the aim is, there is zero need for friendship to develop although it's beneficial, merely that they each benefit from working together. For christ sake Huang Da is still using the vent!
It's frankly for me one of the definitions of an adult. Being able to work together with someone you don't socially like. Yet you do so because it's required whether because of employment or famiy or spouse, or because you mutually benefit from doing so.
I'm just not sure people understand or empathize what Han Jian's group is going though. They feel they aren't advancing quick enough, they see someone who only started cultivating when she came to the sect start surpassing them, they helped that girl out and specifically Han Jian stuck his neck out for us when his teammates were against it, and we benefited from it. We have access to a valuable resource that they have great need off, and not mentioning it is frankly going to ruin the friendship. We kept something they desperately wanted and likely believe they needed a secret from them. We didn't even try and offer it to them.
That is friendship ending. They stuck out their necks for us, and you guys aren't even willing to try if there's a chance of failure. The chance of failure is also small when you consider the price isn't going to be extortionate, Ling Qi herself wouldn't be taking any of it, Han Jian is a naturally emphatic individual and trades of this variety should be common knowledge among nobles, and the value of an equivalent in resources is substantially more expensive. That's without considering the site can combine it's bonuses with resources, nor that they can draw upon their families resource base to enhance their growth. Nor the sheer length that value can be had, given at minimum the Inner Sect test is in 9 months.
The argument about merging of groups is also rather poor given for me that's never what it's been about. I wouldn't even argue that Ling Qi is apart of Han Jian's group as she's clearly still on the outside given they grew up with one another, but they interact with one another and have a mutually beneficial relationship. Just as Bai Meizhen is capable of working together with Su Ling and Li Suyin, yet I certainly wouldn't class them as part of the same group. This should be what the aim is, there is zero need for friendship to develop although it's beneficial, merely that they each benefit from working together. For christ sake Huang Da is still using the vent!
It's frankly for me one of the definitions of an adult. Being able to work together with someone you don't socially like. Yet you do so because it's required whether because of employment or famiy or spouse, or because you mutually benefit from doing so.
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Most plans go for the Art instead because one of the big pushes we're making is to get AS5. Argent Elixir procs off of both physical cultivation and art rolls so they're stacking that instead. Plus, we're close to hitting a new level in our Art anyway, which will increase our combat abilities.
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It's a necessary step if we want a merger but in and of itself it doesn't require we go down that path
These are arguments for why the duo won't be up for it so like I've said before let them decide.
I meant buying our place as in we can no longer use it. Since it's something we'll share there's no point in charging something they can't afford and if the duo made an excessive suggestion we just wouldn't bring it to Han Jian.
It's an argument for why we personally shouldn't take issue with sharing and therefore let the duo decide. Pretty much comes down to, do we want to offer to set up a trade between the duo and quartet for knowledge of the vent location for a lump sum? Pretty sure we don't particularly mind sharing so they get to make the decision and get the payment
Considering how vehement a proponent I've been for the subvote is it weird that I don't actually care about a merging or the quartet's access to the vent? Mostly I've taken issue to people's arguments against it but at least I haven't noted any arguments against the duo's right to hear about the idea, we could let them argue about it rather than us.
If they agree and since a lot of arguments seem to be in the duo's defence I think their thoughts on the matter could put the arguments to rest
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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Can he compete with us?
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Vote for A Cultivator is a Social Animal. It works to get them to the vent, gives Han Jian some responsibility he can easily live up to to boost his confidence, and still spends half it's actions cultivating. It meets your needs.
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It is a staple of xianxia to use horribly bad tournament design that benefits the MC through blind luck of placement
But yrsillar has cut out a lot of stupid things like that. so hopefully it really won't be the case