Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

I would want some Leg+Spine Art that improves Unarmed (kicking focused) and Throwing. What? I can dream. :D
 
The vent is pretty much the only advantage Li Suyin and Su Ling have.
To give it up, especially to people who treated them very poorly, would not be a good idea.
And Li Suyin is in a bad, bad place currently.
Us inviting other people to the vent she would probably interpret as her being useless.

And we are still not good at social.
With 4 successes, more than we should receive currently, we barely prevented a disaster in a far less explosive setting.
All I'm hearing is standard quester paranoia and feels instead of evidence.

Giving up their only advantage? THEY AREN'T ENEMIES! Suyin is not some damn damsel always needing protection, she even said so but you're ignoring her in favour of fussing over what you think are her "feelings" and I don't even want to know how the hell you lot came to think it will make her feel "useless".

Don't come crying to me when your wishy washy crap screws over our relationship with Han Jian's group thanks to them rightly seeing us keeping the vent to ourselves and our roommate as a betrayal.
 
[X] Plan Knock things off the to-do list, and do a big cultivation push next week
-[X] Resources - 3 Red Spirit Stones
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
--[X] Discuss with others who got tokens
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Study formations
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
--[X] Ask Su Ling and Li Suyin prior, and if they agree discuss trading access to a high quality Spirit Stone and Argent Soul vent in exchange for resources/talismans/training and being cordial to those who found it.
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent (no social dialogue, training action)
--[X] Train Sable's Crescent Step
-[X] Look into sending some money to mother

As the name implies this plan is about cleaning up our action list of things we'd said we'd do, or resources we've acquired but haven't explored.

First off the main one, revitalizing Ling Qi's social link with Han Jian and reveal the access of the Vent to him. This is ideal as the nobles are finally getting their resources from their family so they have disposable income, Han Jian's group has expressed disappointment with their growth rate and jealousy with others so they'd value the vent highly, and Li Suyin and Su Ling have expressed their determination in letting their pride go and improving the lengths to which they train. This thus gives them access to resources to grow, teachers to learn from, items to make them stronger, and frankly social as what they're doing is hitting quite close to what Elder Su warned her class not to do. We've also brought Xuilan around, and both she and Han Jian are the social/leadership characters in their group.

Second is sending that letter and money to our mother, and aiming to reconnect with our mother. It also benefits from her breakthrough belief, and the illusion from Zhao's second test, as cultivation isn't merely about making your soul/physical abilities stronger but everything about you.

Third is Formations and Tokens galore. I've taken these three actions as I see them synergy with each other wonderfully; with us finally using the pass we earned from Elder Su and looking up some formations, using some of that knowledge to combine with studying with Li Suyin and to broaden her determination a bit, and finally looking at what those tokens actually do. They've been in our inventory for 2 months now so it needs to be resolved, either they can be helpful to us or they were for Red and we should trade them to someone else. I'm optimistic in something good coming from them given the Celestial symbols.

Finally the training at the Vent action with Suyin is just going to be a training action which the author has said is fine, so @yrsillar doesn't have to write fluff for it, while we should still get the stat benefits but no SL improvement. However I'm spending another action with Li Suyin to negate that. I went with training Sable's Crescent Step as we have enough dice that we'd be able to complete Forgotten Vale Melody in one go, so it's more efficient to leave that until the big training/pill turn next week so we can do both SCS and FVM.
 
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I would want some Leg+Spine Art that improves Unarmed (kicking focused) and Throwing. What? I can dream. :D

All 'attack' arts are arm arts - the body part sets the focus. Leg arts are movement arts. There might be kicking focused arm/leg arts - they focus power in the legs, and that's used for both attack and mobility, but leg/spine is SCS.
 
All I'm hearing is standard quester paranoia and feels instead of evidence.

Giving up their only advantage? THEY AREN'T ENEMIES! Suyin is not some damn damsel always needing protection, she even said so but you're ignoring her in favour of fussing over what you think are her "feelings" and I don't even want to know how the hell you lot came to think it will make her feel "useless".

Don't come crying to me when your wishy washy crap screws over our relationship with Han Jian's group thanks to them rightly seeing us keeping the vent to ourselves and our roommate as a betrayal.

...do reread the last interaction between both groups.

We had four successes on four dice.

The result was that we barely avoided a disaster.
 
OK, let's do this.

[X][stat] Dexterity
[X] Plan Daughter of the Moon.
-[X]Argent Elixir, 3 Red Stone, Bear Marrow Elixir, Gushing Spring Pill, Argent Accumulation Pill
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
--[X] Talk to Li Suyin and Su Ling about giving access to the Argent vent to Han Jian and Co, in exchange for spirit stones and training.
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Cultivate on your own

--[X] Physical
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Search for a technique


This is a more cultivation heavy plan that does what I personally consider urgent (Han Jian, Li Suyin) while still not art and physical cultivation. As with the other plan that do AS/Art/Physical we can expect to get 7 AS from phsyical, 5 from FVM and 5 archive, 11 from AS and 5 from the vent, so a total of 33~, and we need 41, putting us in striking distance next turn without actually cultivating AS, so we could begin EPC then.

Basically because there needs to be at least one plan that doesn't utterly neglect cultivation.

You do need to specify whar kind of art you want Like, give a meridian or an element at least
 
All I'm hearing is standard quester paranoia and feels instead of evidence.

Giving up their only advantage? THEY AREN'T ENEMIES! Suyin is not some damn damsel always needing protection, she even said so but you're ignoring her in favour of fussing over what you think are her "feelings" and I don't even want to know how the hell you lot came to think it will make her feel "useless".

Don't come crying to me when your wishy washy crap screws over our relationship with Han Jian's group thanks to them rightly seeing us keeping the vent to ourselves and our roommate as a betrayal.
The vent doesn't belong to us alone. It isn't betrayal, it's acknowledging loyalty to a wider group of people and respecting property.

Inviting 4 more people to use this resource w/o asking is a) incredibly rude, b) a betrayal, c) contrary to our previous choice of specifically asking Suyin and Su Ling before inviting Bai Meizhen.

tldr: get off the Han Jian ship and onto solid earth.
 
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Don't come crying to me when your wishy washy crap screws over our relationship with Han Jian's group thanks to them rightly seeing us keeping the vent to ourselves and our roommate as a betrayal.
Eh, they are keeping stones and arts for their own cultivation. Is that betrayal?

I agree that sharing might improve moods, and Su Ling and Suyin need some networking. Patronage can help assuage some of the possible backlash of low or abysmal heritage.

Sure, temper and pride might be frayed, but Suyin wants to improve, and Su Ling acknowledges that she would want to gain advantage however she could. The Vent would not dissipate from use, so sharing them nets them some networking chance and more training options with those in higher cultivation stage.
 
[X] Plan Knock things off the to-do list, and do a big cultivation push next week
-[X] Resources - 3 Red Spirit Stones
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
--[X] Discuss with others who got tokens
-[X] Visit the Archive
--[X] Study formations
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
--[X] Discuss trading access to a high quality Spirit Stone and Argent Soul vent in exchange for resources/talismans/training and being cordial to those who found it.
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent (no social dialogue, training action)
--[X] Train Sable's Crescent Step
-[X] Look into sending some money to mother

As the name implies this plan is about cleaning up our action list of things we'd said we'd do, or resources we've acquired but haven't explored.

First off the main one, revitalizing Ling Qi's social link with Han Jian and reveal the access of the Vent to him. This is ideal as the nobles are finally getting their resources from their family so they have disposable income, Han Jian's group has expressed disappointment with their growth rate and jealousy with others so they'd value the vent highly, and Li Suyin and Su Ling have expressed their determination in letting their pride go and improving the lengths to which they train. This thus gives them access to resources to grow, teachers to learn from, items to make them stronger, and frankly social as what they're doing is hitting quite close to what Elder Su warned her class not to do. We've also brought Xuilan around, and both she and Han Jian are the social/leadership characters in their group.

Second is sending that letter and money to our mother, and aiming to reconnect with our mother. It also benefits from her breakthrough belief, and the illusion from Zhao's second test, as cultivation isn't merely about making your soul/physical abilities stronger but everything about you.

Third is Formations and Tokens galore. I've taken these three actions as I see them synergy with each other wonderfully; with us finally using the pass we earned from Elder Su and looking up some formations, using some of that knowledge to combine with studying with Li Suyin and to broaden her determination a bit, and finally looking at what those tokens actually do. They've been in our inventory for 2 months now so it needs to be resolved, either they can be helpful to us or they were for Red and we should trade them to someone else. I'm optimistic in something good coming from them given the Celestial symbols.

Finally the training at the Vent action with Suyin is just going to be a training action which the author has said is fine, so @yrsillar doesn't have to write fluff for it, while we should still get the stat benefits but no SL improvement. However I'm spending another action with Li Suyin to negate that. I went with training Sable's Crescent Step as we have enough dice that we'd be able to complete Forgotten Vale Melody in one go, so it's more efficient to leave that until the big training/pill turn next week so we can do both SCS and FVM.
not enough AS
 
All 'attack' arts are arm arts - the body part sets the focus. Leg arts are movement arts. There might be kicking focused arm/leg arts - they focus power in the legs, and that's used for both attack and mobility, but leg/spine is SCS.
...you do realise that we have seen Heart attack arts and lung attack arts? I mean, it's about specialisation, not about "only one can do it".

Anyway, I'm going to go for Head Meridians for the archive as we have that open. Maybe some focus on either a defensive/sensory martial arts by striking at weaknesses or a sniping art.
 
For people who are considering getting spirit animals, I would ask that you consider a plan that has us asking Han Jian for information about binding. We know nothing about binding spirits to ourselves, what effects that have on us, how it is done, and if there any synergy that could be had. The sooner we ask him about that sort of stuff, the quicker we can get to acquiring a spirit animal, or knowing if we don't want one.

Consider this a selfish plugin for plan Coursing River!
 
@Thor's Twin You might want to consider stealing this subclause for your plan.

--[X] Ask Su Ling and Li Suyin prior, and if they agree discuss trading access to a high quality Spirit Stone and Argent Soul vent in exchange for resources/talismans/training and being cordial to those who found it.
 
...you do realise that we have seen Heart attack arts and lung attack arts? I mean, it's about specialisation, not about "only one can do it".

Anyway, I'm going to go for Head Meridians for the archive as we have that open. Maybe some focus on either a defensive/sensory martial arts by striking at weaknesses or a sniping art.

Heart buff arts, where what they buff is attack, and Lung area harassment arts - DV 1 doesn't really count as an attack, the point is the multiple attacker penalty, fitting in to the theme 'manipulating an area.'
 
I would think it is a free action because we are not actually inviting him to the Argent Vent, but asking him if he would be willing to pay for it.

As for the reasons for bringing Han Jian and his crew up to the vent, I was against it, but there are certain things that I think warrant it now. Li Suyin needs more human contact and other friends. With the major obstacle of Gu Xiulan out of the way, the ability to train with others and get some social experience in is going to be beneficial. Secondly, I would rather deny Huang Da the opportunity to use the AS vent, and with another group up there he will find it difficult to use it.
We have spent whole actions on just discussing things with friends before. heck we spent multiple actions trying to convince Gu to be nicer to our other friends

Also, we should broach the subject with Li Suyin and Su L...fluffy tail first since we promised them it would be a secret.

Also, we have not resolved the issue with Gu, we just got her to agree to give Li Suyin a "second chance" by saying Li changed to be less weak minded. This is hardly a good basis for bringing them over.
We would never several more actions before we can mesh the two groups (if ever) and revealing the vent now is way premature.
 
--[X] Ask Su Ling and Li Suyin prior, and if they agree discuss trading access to a high quality Spirit Stone and Argent Soul vent in exchange for resources/talismans/training and being cordial to those who found it.
I like the wording, I really do, it just feels like it is trying to squeeze in two different free actions into one, and as a personal preference, I try to make plans that only use one free action in a plan. If @yrsillar ok's it, then I will replace my wording with this ones.
 
We have spent whole actions on just discussing things with friends before. heck we spent multiple actions trying to convince Gu to be nicer to our other friends

Also, we should broach the subject with Li Suyin and Su L...fluffy tail first since we promised them it would be a secret.

Also, we have not resolved the issue with Gu, we just got her to agree to give Li Suyin a "second chance" by saying Li changed to be less weak minded. This is hardly a good basis for bringing them over.
We would never several more actions before we can mesh the two groups (if ever) and revealing the vent now is way premature.

Yeah, I would actually bring them over to the next training session, see how they fit this time, and only them start moving towards inviting Han Jian's group.
 
I like the wording, I really do, it just feels like it is trying to squeeze in two different free actions into one, and as a personal preference, I try to make plans that only use one free action in a plan. If @yrsillar ok's it, then I will replace my wording with this ones.
Then do JUST the asking of li suyin and su ling. and omit bringing it up with han and co until next turn

Also, seriously, there is no way this is a free action, it is clearly a full blown social action
Yeah, I would actually bring them over to the next training session, see how they fit this them, and only them start moving towards inviting Han Jian's group.
Exactly.
 
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