Seems to be the implication. But damn Ji Rong killed a Mid Red as a mortal, that is really badass.
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
Sadly Qi Ling really didn't have the physical and combat ability to be exploring the mountains. That's where beginning with high phys stats is really good.
We could only use 2red/1yellow this week, as we didn't yet have silver.
Remember, max number of stone is lower of spiritual and physical cultivation level.
The train actions are not social but if put in that slot don't expect much text devoted to it or SL progress
Ugh double I hadn't gotten a chance to edit, but yeah Moon fill is out till next month
And yeah swap beasts for tokens, thats fine
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- United States of America
Even if we could, I would very much argue for asking about spirit binding. He is one of the people that we know recently bound a spirit and asking him for pointers and stuff will help us in our goal of getting spirits to help us.
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- USA
I knew we should have explored some!
Let's please not have 4 or so social actions. Social is really really needed but there won't ever be a time where they will not be extremely needed either. At most we should have 3 social actions
We have a lot of backlog.
To actually have more social than usual is a good idea to just clear things up.
This said, the rhythm of a social heavy week and then a drug assisted heavy training week should still be a very good idea.
...I feel like I've been on the other side of this argument with you.Let's please not have 4 or so social actions. Social is really really needed but there won't ever be a time where they will not be extremely needed either. At most we should have 3 social actions
At any rate, I am not in a big hurry to hunt down and bind a spirit. It seems likely to be very action-hungry and gives another social link to juggle. I want to do it, but I'm not in a big hurry.
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- United States
[X][Stat] Stamina
[X] Plan Backlog, Cultivation, & Helping
-[X] Resources: 3 Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir (Cost 4), Argent Accumulation (Cost 2), Argent Elixir (Cost 10), Gushing Spring (Cost 2)
-[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
-[X] Look into sending some money to mother
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Physical
-[X] Discuss with Meizhen what you can help her with
Alright I think the moratorium is over. Or at least it is on my clock. So gonna put this out.
[X] Plan Backlog, Cultivation, & Helping
-[X] Resources: 3 Red Stones, Bear Marrow Elixir (Cost 4), Argent Accumulation (Cost 2), Argent Elixir (Cost 10), Gushing Spring (Cost 2)
-[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
-[X] Look into sending some money to mother
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Physical
-[X] Discuss with Meizhen what you can help her with
Alright I think the moratorium is over. Or at least it is on my clock. So gonna put this out.
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- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
........Well glad to see you don't care about getting into the Inner Sect because of your build aestheticsI don't mind not being able to punch our our opponent in a tournament duel at all though
Now isn't the time for timidity, we've already got Xiulan to ease up so what more do you people actually want?
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You do make a good point about how social will always be a problem. Hmmm..... I feel that the Han Jian and the Meizhen action should be done, as well as the mother action. As much as it pains me, I don't know if we need to work on the tokens this turn. We have gotten this far without them, we could wait another week to do them. Even if they give really good benefits, we have a lot of stuff to do and have some pretty good foundations to keep working on.
In terms of money spending, we need to be conscious of the amount of money we are spending, we don't have unlimited funds and we will need to figure out a way to get more soon enough
Don't drug-mechanics (applying to all cultivation actions of a given type) encourage specialized weeks? I imagine it would be more efficient to spend a week doing minimal cultivation and them a week going all out then spending two weeks doing a bit of everything.Let's please not have 4 or so social actions. Social is really really needed but there won't ever be a time where they will not be extremely needed either. At most we should have 3 social actions
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
3 socials is more than usual. 4 is basically going "fuck cultivation". And there is always a lot of 'backlog'. The backlog is often "let's decide this new thing is backlog" though.
Doing more socials now won't mean we'll do less later, it just means we'll continue to see how much social is needed. Social is super important, but it can't replace actually doing cultivation. A social heavy week should be 2 social, a extremely social heavy week should be 3. Never more.
It encourage both specialised cultivation but also marathon simply because of how each time we double up on things we halve the rolls.
This means that each week we don't do spiritual/physical/cultivation art is a week where they get 'behind'.
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Let's please not have 4 or so social actions. Social is really really needed but there won't ever be a time where they will not be extremely needed either. At most we should have 3 social actions
TBF, I think the social actions most people are considering will lead into opportunities for cultivation / training or are preparation for sect quests. I'm honestly expecting that the Meizhen help action will lead to a spar of some sort or insight on SCS.
Besides, the 3rd week of a month has traditionally been social heavy to clear out obligations to allow for a successive heavier training week, and we've been spending a lot of time cultivating (I consider breakthrough cultivation actions) these past 2 weeks.
That said, I do consider the mother action to be more pressing than tokens, and I'm willing to potentially put off tokens for another week.
I'd prefer to ask him about spirits and do the token action ourselves. With moonfill unavailable we can swap that out for another action. A lot of people favour Meizhen but I think there's also an argument for thanking Guanglui before too long passes or exploring.
Like I hate Ji Rong and his bullshit hax but if we tried hermiting like him we'd never have come as far as we have by taking our social and exploration actions.
I get where you're coming from but if we aren't comfortable in taking time to catch up on our quest backlog now after breaking through and becoming one of the top 10 or so we're never going to be comfortable. We can't afford to keep letting our obligations build up. Two cultivation actions + drugs giving us bonus successes in other area's is still a fair amount of strength building, and we've seen before how taking the time to go exploring or figure things out (tokens possibly) can be overall more efficent that straight training.
Like I hate Ji Rong and his bullshit hax but if we tried hermiting like him we'd never have come as far as we have by taking our social and exploration actions.
Could you elaborate on this? I've mostly been following by reading updates and not the whole thread, so I'm not familiar with this mechanic.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
- Location
- France
I consider the breakthrough social
(actually, I consider it neither)Also, social is always super good. Very, very rarily do social actions don't get us tangible benefits. This past week with our extreme social bent was basically a huge exception there.
If we do something like:
[]Cultivate Spiritual
[] Cultivate spiritual
We get Full Dice on the first action, but half of it for the second. This means we are heavily encouraged to always cultivate the 'mainstay' every weeks.
Before hand we had spiritual/physical as just one action every weeks, so people got used to not taking it into account in their plans.
However, the extra action for yellow is actually just getting the same numbers of actions as we used to do. And beforehand we never go more than 3 socials. Because that menas a criplling little amount of cultivation.
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The vent is pretty much the only advantage Li Suyin and Su Ling have.
To give it up, especially to people who treated them very poorly, would not be a good idea.
And Li Suyin is in a bad, bad place currently.
Us inviting other people to the vent she would probably interpret as her being useless.
And we are still not good at social.
With 4 successes, more than we should receive currently, we barely prevented a disaster in a far less explosive setting.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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- ꙮ
[X][stat] Dexterity
[X] Plan Skill Cap & Socialize
-[X] Resources Used: 1 Argent Elixir, 1 Argent Accumulation pill, 3 Red Spirit Stones, 1 Bear Marrow Elixir, 1 Gushing Spring Pill
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics from her
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Spiritual
--[X] Art(FVM)
-[X] Overflow to Qi
Copied someone else's pill plan; plz judge me.
Can we please do something involving formations?! as per WoC, they are the key to everything.
Finish AS + Art; socialize a lot w/ Suyin cus she's legit going insane; learn hunting from Su Ling because we'll need to do that soon to get a spirit wolf pup; Han Jian cus y'all just ship him.
[X] Plan Skill Cap & Socialize
-[X] Resources Used: 1 Argent Elixir, 1 Argent Accumulation pill, 3 Red Spirit Stones, 1 Bear Marrow Elixir, 1 Gushing Spring Pill
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] You are still worried about Suyin, perhaps the two of you could study formations together? It might get her mind off things
-[X] Spend some time with Su Ling, perhaps you can learn a little bit of hunting tactics from her
-[X] Cultivate on your own
--[X] Spiritual
--[X] Art(FVM)
-[X] Overflow to Qi
Copied someone else's pill plan; plz judge me.
Can we please do something involving formations?! as per WoC, they are the key to everything.
Finish AS + Art; socialize a lot w/ Suyin cus she's legit going insane; learn hunting from Su Ling because we'll need to do that soon to get a spirit wolf pup; Han Jian cus y'all just ship him.
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- United States of America
[X] [Stat] Dexterity
[X] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River
-[X] Resources used: Argent Elixir, Argent Accumulation pill, 3 red spirit stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Gushing Spring pill
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
---[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
-[X] Discuss with Meizhen what you can help her with
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
---[X] Physical
-[X] Look into sending some money to mother
-[X] Cultivate on your own
---[X] FVM
Alright, I think that social is important and this achieves a balance of three cultivation and three social. I know that the tokens are important, but we need have gotten this far without them. I don't think waiting a week to work on them will be terrible. There are large fires that need to be put out, but I think that if we are using the Argent Elixir we should also focus on training combat arts and physical to get the most out of them and get as much AS done as we can. This plan will cost about 23 spirit pills if I'm calculating it right.
[X] Plan As Swift as a Coursing River
-[X] Resources used: Argent Elixir, Argent Accumulation pill, 3 red spirit stones, Bear Marrow Elixir, Gushing Spring pill
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
---[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Try to spend some time with Han Jian, couch it as wanting to ask him about spirit binding
-[X] Discuss with Meizhen what you can help her with
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
---[X] Physical
-[X] Look into sending some money to mother
-[X] Cultivate on your own
---[X] FVM
Alright, I think that social is important and this achieves a balance of three cultivation and three social. I know that the tokens are important, but we need have gotten this far without them. I don't think waiting a week to work on them will be terrible. There are large fires that need to be put out, but I think that if we are using the Argent Elixir we should also focus on training combat arts and physical to get the most out of them and get as much AS done as we can. This plan will cost about 23 spirit pills if I'm calculating it right.
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The ones I consider necessary for this week
- Meizhen
- Han Jian
- Mother
- Cultivate at vent (AS)
- Train with Han Jian
Last one can be tokens or another training action or something else, I suppose. I have a preference for tokens though.
Re: Vent - Given our social skills, we might as well just lay out what we're attempting to accomplish to Han Jian or Xiulan and have them use their social skills to smooth over the issues with the group.
- Meizhen
- Han Jian
- Mother
- Cultivate at vent (AS)
- Train with Han Jian
Last one can be tokens or another training action or something else, I suppose. I have a preference for tokens though.
Re: Vent - Given our social skills, we might as well just lay out what we're attempting to accomplish to Han Jian or Xiulan and have them use their social skills to smooth over the issues with the group.