Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

I honestly don't know why you consider "sending money to mom" backlog. Anyway, I'd suggest that if you fail breakthrough the physical cultivation be with Han Jian and co, because why not.
Well my thoughts are that it's something that we'll potentially keep putting off and getting rid of it asap checks it off our list.
 
I honestly don't know why you consider "sending money to mom" backlog. Anyway, I'd suggest that if you fail breakthrough the physical cultivation be with Han Jian and co, because why not.

Well, during our breakthrough it was one of the things we determined we needed to resolve.

Choosing to be strong enough to have true freedom, also freedom to have friendships and care -the wings that are strong enough to carry any weight- I think it fitting to show that we are ready to carry such weight and to do a first small step in it is helping out our mother.
 
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[X][breakthrough] To ensure that her wings could carry as much weight as she wished
[][Stat] Manipulation

[X] Plan Clearing the backlog

I like this plan. We had too much stuff unfinished.

It totally has my vote
Edit: left only the plan name, and changed stat vote
 
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Well, during our breakthrough it was one of the things we determined we needed to resolve.

Choosing to be strong enough to have true freedom, also freedom to have friendships and care -the wings that are strong enough to carry any weight- I think t fitting to show that we are ready to carry such weight and to do a first small step in helping out our mother.
The point is, we just did that yesterday. At that point it's not "first small step", it's "getting serious about it", which is perfectly fine, but not a backlog.
 
I like gu, i like trying to get gu to go lighter on li, I like FVM...
but I really really want to get these tokens already. its been like a month already
also, mom thing is character growth

@Humbaba on the "if fail first silver breakthrough, train physical". can you clarify that its train physical with Han Jian.
Since there is no reason to train it alone when we can train it with a team for a bonus and a bit of social
 
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Well yeah but honestly it's been on our character's mind since Zhou's Test. It's also been tossed around in discussion since then as well.
 
[X] Plan Bread and Butter.
[X] Resources Used: 2 Red Stones, Buy an Argent Accumulation Pill (2 Red Stones) and Gushing Spring Pill (2 red Stones) and use them. Equip Hawk Talon Armguards
[X] Plan Bread and Butter.
-[X] Resources Used: 2 Red Stones, Buy an Argent Accumulation Pill (2 Red Stones) and Gushing Spring Pill (2 red Stones) and use them. Equip Hawk Talon Armguards
-[X] Spend some time with Gu Xiulan, to celebrate your breakthrough, and see if she might be willing to tone things down in regards to Li Suyin
--[X] Ask her about breakthroughs to Silver, and what kind of prior masteries, cultivation and strengthening exercise can maximise its effect.
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Go along with Meizhen to this meeting Cai Renxiang is calling.
--[X] Ask Bai Meizhen about the requirements to take the test for Inner Sect disciple at the end of the year.
-[X] Breakthrough to Silver
-[X] Breakthrough to Silver x2
--[X]If not at peak Gold, cultivate physical after buying and using an Elexir Argent.
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
I don't think that the item usage in this plan is optimal. We saved money specifically so that we could cultivate more effectively, so let's not be stingy. Consider the following changes:
  • Buy and use that Argent Elixir no matter what, because you're cultivating Forgotten Vale Melody, which is a combat art. That means that not only is that action improved, we'll also get at least a handful of autosuccesses for Argent Soul, which we are trying to rush right now. This one isn't even arguably cost-inefficient; it's just the right move.
  • Buy and use a Flowing Rivers Pill. Two spirit stones per die isn't cheap, but since it'll apply to Forgotten Vale Melody and we'll be using the Argent Elixir, that's also 1.5 autosuccesses for Argent Soul; that makes the cost-benefit ratio much improved and well worth it.
  • If our physical cultivation crashes, buy and use a Bear Marrow Elixir for the physical cultivation action. The cost efficiency is reasonable and free Qi Increase successes are hard to turn down since that's kind of lame to cultivate on its own. Even better, it'll stack with the Argent Elixir to maximize efficiency.

This is the only plan that I've looked at the item usage for in detail, but I'd urge other plan makers to also consider whether they should be buying and using more cultivation items. The answer is probably yes.
 
To be honest, I didn't expect breakthrough to actually succeed first time. Interesting vote associated with it...

[X][breakthrough] To ensure that her wings could carry as much weight as she wished

So the bonus is for "over 20 qi" and is a flat amount tacked on... I suppose "double your qi" was too much to hope for :p. A Mental/Social Attribute dot, eh? I favor Resolve, as 'determination' is a key factor in a protagonist. For those looking for "optimization", Resolve *is* one of the 3-dot attributes, so the most bang for the buck there. Composure is my second choice - although Intelligence would probably help in learning Formations... hmmm...

[X][stat]Resolve

So - it looks like things you've mastered (or at least advanced sufficiently) upon breakthrough give "mastery" bonuses. Natural site bonuses x1.5 - that's a nice perk from Argent Soul Mastery; a couple successes for Argent Soul, a couple dice for cultivation, very nice. Stealth boost from Dark, initiative boost from Wind... and a mystery bonus. Looking at it, perhaps its from actually completing Zephyr's Breath? Or is from Argent Soul hitting four in conjunction with it? Regardless, faster advancement for wind techniques and for ranged weapons - growth bonuses are nice.

And all that was needed for the extra action *was* Early Yellow - I guess I was wrong there.


Now, Li Suyin and Su Ling. Li Suyin's injuries (fortunately) might be fixable by her in the near-future, she got some tempering, and she was thinking about quitting again - hopefully that'll be the last time. Her attackers didn't get away with it, though, and with some teaching, the talismans Ling Qi supplied and the latter's help if necessary, I would expect her to pay them back some more in the future. Su Ling seems grateful in her gruff way as well.

Huang Da is a bit of a surprise... but I kinda expected him to give Ling Qi minor assistance in the hopes of impressing her. For what it's worth, I suspect his feelings are genuine, although he's not very able of being not-creepy about it and how long his feelings will endure (he apparently has obsessed over others before Li Suyin), I suspect he won't be trying to harm Ling Qi or her 'followers' (I was right about that part, it looks like). I think he'll still compete with her for prizes, of course, and if Ling Qi is looking to get closer to some other guy he might react poorly, but I don't think he'll be a threat for some time.

Bai's definitely got a vendetta - I hope she'll keep it away from the sect's bottom line while she's here. Ling Qi's participation in the house hunt means she gets to sway Bai into a place near Gu - that could be useful. Also, Bai doesn't seem to disapprove of Gu's family, which is a start - I don't know if Ling Qi will be able to forge her three (perhaps four?) different social linkages into one large group, but I see it as conceivable. Gu's objection to Li Suyin seems to be in the latter's pacificism (and Su Ling's crudeness)... well, that first looks to be changing, while the latter seemed intrigued enough by Han Jian (or his swordsmanship) to try swords out herself. Bai, Li and Su are at least on neutral terms. Some of Han Jian's group (looking at you, Fan Yu) are problematic, and there's bound to be plenty more obstacles - but it's conceivable. Give Ling Qi some time to continue to shine in the sect and she might pull the others along eventually.


Actions. Well, going for Silver seems clear enough, so that's two actions. Celebrating breakthrough with Gu seems a reasonable return both for her helping Ling Qi with things and for the celebration she held for her; as a bonus, perhaps seeing if her view of Li Suyin might be mellowed by the latter becoming less pacifistic. Going to the Cai meeting, now that Ling Qi has hit Yellow, might be warranted - Ling Qi's advanced enough that strictures about "punching down" might be considered to apply to her... plus, showing up is giving Cai face.

That leaves two actions. I'd say its time to puzzle out the tokens, and pushing Argent Soul towards completion - 39/100 is substantial progress that Ling Qi shouldn't abandon, and the earlier that finishes the sooner she can start work on Eight Phase Cycle.

@yrsillar, now that Ling Qi's broken through, perhaps you could solve the debate over whether getting Argent Soul 5 before hitting Yellow would've been beneficial? Also, what does Ling Qi know about what Eight Phase Cycle would offer?

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[X] Plan Clearing the Backlog

I want the tokens investigated.
 
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So, I was talking to ark. As far as I remember we ASKED gu about sending money to mom, and found out we would have to go down the mountain to the post office to do so (meaning, spend a separate action on it). And the vote now is to follow through

He remembers that we actually did it already, and that the vote now is to just pointlessly repeat it again after only 1 week.

Can anyone else clarify this? did we just find out how to do it, or did we actually already send the money?
To be honest, I didn't expect breakthrough to actually succeed first time. Interesting vote associated with it...
Our talent is 6 and we got argent soul 4 for the +5. So there was a 65% chance of success for each attempt.
Total chance of success on first try on both actions is 42.25%. not too difficult a roll
[X][breakthrough][Resolve]
this vote is broken

@yrsillar now that we are at yellow, what do we see when we examine the technique jade we got at the trial?
 
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We just thought about it. Even some vague thoughts to that purpose. Our action at that point was shopping with a cursory ask for help on how to do so.
 
[X][breakthrough] To ensure that her wings could carry as much weight as she wished
[X][Stat] Manipulation

[X] Plan Clearing the backlog
-[X] Resources Used: 2 Red Stones, Buy an Argent Accumulation Pill (2 Red Stones
-[X] Go along with Meizhen to this meeting Cai Renxiang is calling.
-[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
-[X] Breakthrough to Silver
-[X] Breakthrough to Silver x2
--[X] If failed buy an Argent Elixir (10 stones) and Cultivate Physical
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X]Argent Soul
[X] Look into sending some money to mother
 
So, I was talking to ark. As far as I remember we ASKED gu about sending money to mom, and found out we would have to go down the mountain to the post office to do so (meaning, spend a separate action on it). And the vote now is to follow through

He remembers that we actually did it already, and that the vote now is to just pointlessly repeat it again after only 1 week.

Can anyone else clarify this? did we just find out how to do it, or did we actually already send the money?
The threadmark you want is thunderdome 3.5 and we certainly didn't actually send anything. We only found out how to do it.
 
So, I was talking to ark. As far as I remember we ASKED gu about sending money to mom, and found out we would have to go down the mountain to the post office to do so (meaning, spend a separate action on it). And the vote now is to follow through

He remembers that we actually did it already, and that the vote now is to just pointlessly repeat it again after only 1 week.

Can anyone else clarify this? did we just find out how to do it, or did we actually already send the money?

Our talent is 6 and we got argent soul 4 for the +5. So there was a 65% chance of success for each attempt.
Total chance of success on first try on both actions is 42.25%. not too difficult a roll

this vote is broken

@yrsillar now that we are at yellow, what do we see when we examine the technique jade we got at the trial?

I am very sure we got the information but did not send any money or went to the post office.
 
On second thought, I'm thinking we've had enough Xiulan action for now; we can always celebrate with her once we've broken through Silver as well. This week, I'd like to keep up our links with Han Jian and finally figure out what those damn tokens are about. I feel like there's good odds they might help out in something related to physical cultivation. Based on Plan Bread and Butter...

[X] Plan Mystery Cultivation
-[X] Resources Used: 2 Red Stones, Buy an Argent Accumulation Pill (2 Red Stones), 1 Gushing Spring Pill (2 red Stones), 1 Argent Elixir (10 spirit stone), 1 Flowing Rivers Pill (6 spirit stone) and use them. Equip Hawk Talon Armguards
-[X] Try to puzzle out the tokens left from the test
-[X] Help Suyin train and cultivate at the vent
--[X] Argent Soul
-[X] Go along with Meizhen to this meeting Cai Renxiang is calling.
--[X] Ask Bai Meizhen about the requirements to take the test for Inner Sect disciple at the end of the year.
-[X] Breakthrough to Silver
-[X] Breakthrough to Silver x2
--[X]If not at peak Gold, cultivate physical after buying and using Bear Marrow Elixir.
-[X] Train with Han Jian and his group
--[X] FVM
 
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I was thinking on talismans re: 2nd slot now that we are yellow. I was thinking whether a net 30 investment into the brooch would be worth it, but with the robe and darkness talisman, it does seem like it's not necessary yet since most of FVM is a 1 qi expenditure now. I suppose the extra defense dot from Hawk Talon Armguards will come in handy for the moment.

I would presume if we pick up another heart art, it'll be worth it to switch though.
 
I was thinking on talismans re: 2nd slot now that we are yellow. I was thinking whether a net 30 investment into the brooch would be worth it, but with the robe and darkness talisman, it does seem like it's not necessary yet since most of FVM is a 1 qi expenditure now. I suppose the extra defense dot from Hawk Talon Armguards will come in handy for the moment.

I would presume if we pick up another heart art, it'll be worth it to switch though.
Bloodbending is a heart art
 
By following through do you mean we do not need to put an action to send her money ?

No, it is meant that the action offered in the update is us actually taking the red stone, going down the mountain and sending the money to our mother, a k following through on the advice we received on how to do it.
 
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