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- Wörms, the half continent
Is the current vote for additional mass on top of the last vote, or for total saucer mass?
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Thought science was optional beyond the minimal in this design brief? Could focus down on engineering and/or colony support.
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- He/Him
[X] Rising Slope Configuration (Mass: 190kt) [Cost: 37.5]
Chargone
Invisable operator
- Location
- New Zealand
Going by the numbers and what they're describing, looks like total (for the saucer).
Total, looks like.
Science is minimal on the Miranda-class.
We really dont want to skimp on it here, since that will be one of the differentiators
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
And I think you're over-reacting to a statement the QM made. Again, if we were being told not to do something, it wouldn't be an option we can vote for.
There was a lot of enthusiasm for building a big ship going in to this vote, and it'd be a shame to see it all disappear and have us land on yet another unexceptionally-sized ship. Not when the ship's role (and our curent shipbuilding tech) stands to gain so much from maximizing size.
Damm the flats! We can't pick options that'll leave this ship a confused and less capable halfway house, maximum mass is only a downside if we can't justify it, and between the modules we'd be able to fit and the advantages this will bring to both offensive and defensive capabilities it will justify the mass!
Furthermore, according to my calculations* even an integrated secondary hull for the command option leaves the ship well short of the 255,000 tonnes of the Kea - even going for 4x nacelles might not let it grow greater.
Meanwhile a 2x nacelle inverse slope with a Connie style secondary hull will exceed 300,000 tonnes.
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
[X] Rising Slope Configuration (Mass: 190kt) [Cost: 37.5]
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Furthermore, according to my calculations* even an integrated secondary hull for the command option leaves the ship well short of the 255,000 tonnes of the Kea - even going for 4x nacelles might not let it grow greater.
Meanwhile a 2x nacelle inverse slope with a Connie style secondary hull will exceed 300,000 tonnes.
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
[X] Rising Slope Configuration (Mass: 190kt) [Cost: 37.5]
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We could make it that way but I read it as them wanting a tanky heavy cruiser that was also a capable generalist. Has enough capabilities in every area to support any mission without being barebones in any.
Miranda capabilities:
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We could choose specific stuff to limit it's ability to science and I think Starfleet would be fine with it as long as we didn't monofocus. They might be happier with an all rounder though unless we get some really useful synergy with a slightly narrower focus.
That's my read though and I'm throwing a bunch of biases and reading the tea leaves I imagine between the lines.
Edit: Adding in my vote. Reactions received are unrelated to it.
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
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Onionjones
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- a swing state
[X] Command Configuration (Mass: 140kt) [Cost: 27.5]
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This will likely make the ship considerably less massive than the Kea, which will have a big impact on modules as well as offensive and defensive capabilities.
[X] Command Configuration (Mass: 140kt) [Cost: 27.5]
Because, as previously mentioned, I like the aesthetics.
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
Approval vote, because CHONK.
Because, as previously mentioned, I like the aesthetics.
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
Approval vote, because CHONK.
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Onionjones
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- a swing state
that's whatever, I think it'll look better this way
I mean I don't care if it loses the vote
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- Alaska
[X] Rising Slope Configuration (Mass: 190kt) [Cost: 37.5]
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
It's so huge that it's going to be a torpedo magnet no matter what, and I think at this scale the extra shields will help it more than the narrowed profile. In a fleet battle it's going to be expected to slog it out and return fire instead of trying to maneuver anyway.
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
It's so huge that it's going to be a torpedo magnet no matter what, and I think at this scale the extra shields will help it more than the narrowed profile. In a fleet battle it's going to be expected to slog it out and return fire instead of trying to maneuver anyway.
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avatar11792
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- Planet Earth, North America
[X] Command Configuration (Mass: 140kt) [Cost: 27.5]
[X] Command Configuration (Mass: 140kt) [Cost: 27.5]
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- Fae/Faer
[X] Command Configuration (Mass: 140kt) [Cost: 27.5]
Archduke
Don't Take Geology Puns For Granite
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- Texas
[X] Inverse Slope Configuration (Mass: 170kt) [Cost: 33.5]
The sticks to beat here are the Kea and the Excalibur. Command, while on the light side does offer us better coverage - something else Starfleet has placed on their Wishlist.
The sticks to beat here are the Kea and the Excalibur. Command, while on the light side does offer us better coverage - something else Starfleet has placed on their Wishlist.
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