This guy already sold 25 slaves apparently. He's made most of the money he's going to make tonight, and probably has made plenty of profit, more than enough to continue his participation in the despicable institution. Even if none of these five sell tonight, he'll just hold onto them and sell them another day, or just keep them for himself indefinitely (aside from maybe the nobles if somebody ransoms them).

It's unfortunate that we're not a proficient thief, kidnapper, nid-sower, etc., but ultimately I prefer that Halla frees these people with the means available over making this guy take an entirely recoverable loss on a sixth of one lot of slaves.

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Like, if you all are up for getting Halla to organize a coherent boycott of the slave trade, I'd be down for that, but one wealthy land-owner abstaining from buying slaves is probably not going meaningfully reduce the amount of slaving happening in the area?
 
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I'm down with generally going that route in the future, but it's a bit late for that now and not buying these people is a huge feel bad moment that I'd prefer to avoid, as well as turning down a bunch of real potential advantages.
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That's for me, anyway.

Personally I rather in the future we don't thrall - or even confirm the thralling of - people, even people we detest or even have good cause to thrall.
 
This guy already sold 25 slaves apparently. He's made most of the money he's going to make tonight, and probably has made plenty of profit, more than enough to continue his participation in the despicable institution. Even if none of these five sell tonight, he'll just hold onto them and sell them another day, or just keep them for himself indefinitely (aside from maybe the nobles if somebody ransoms them).

It's unfortunate that we're not a proficient thief, kidnapper, nid-sower, etc., but ultimately I prefer that Halla frees these people with the means available over making this guy take an entirely recoverable loss on a a sixth of one lot of slaves.

I'm pretty sure it's even worse than that inasmuch as if we don't buy them someone else will. Like, they aren't going unsold today, I don't think.

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That's for me, anyway.

Personally I rather in the future we don't thrall - or even confirm the thralling of - people, even people we detest or even have good cause to thrall.

That's fair. We didn't actually enthrall anyone, only confirm the people who tortured Eric, but not wanting to even go that far is understandable.
 
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What kind of Reward Dice price would it be to get some elaboration on Brimir's hint about how to pass Abjorn some Hints while limiting attack surfaces for Reprisal?

The implication I got was "Go to a place important to both of you" (In this context, it seems like the best place would be The Tree), make some offerings to someone we're getting help from, and then go from there, but I the part I'm confused about would be "Are we just talking to the God about our worries where Abjorn can hear", or is it more "Invite a Power to run interference on The Enemy's eyes and ears while we slip him what we can?"
I'll say you can spend 2 reward dice per thing you want clarification on
 
I've got four, right? My dice renew on Friday I believe.

So I guess "The part I'm confused about" as written there, with maybe another one to see if I've essentially captured the intent of his hint.
I'll say that the latter is more correct. There's a bit more to it than that, though it's not really something that is up to you to do
 
There's also that they're, also, you know, alliance-sealing individuals. Families will want their daughters married off to families they want an alliance with. Steinarr is unusual IMO in that he just about let all his children including daughters choose their marriage prospects (though he would have probably vetoed a Horrason marriage, even if he let Jordan Halfdanson marry Asva).
true, but managing to marry into Halla's family is easily one of the best alliances you can make in the Hading valley- Halla is wealthy, powerful, politically influential enough that Corpsemaker considered her for Headwoman, and is known for giving great gifts. when our kids are older I can definitely see some norsemen letting their daughters train with us in the hopes they will charm one of our kids
 
true, but managing to marry into Halla's family is easily one of the best alliances you can make in the Hading valley- Halla is wealthy, powerful, politically influential enough that Corpsemaker considered her for Headwoman, and is known for giving great gifts. when our kids are older I can definitely see some norsemen letting their daughters train with us in the hopes they will charm one of our kids

Just having an in with Halla and her family and being friendly with them is quite a perk even if the marriage into the family doesn't pan out. Like, making friends is good even if you don't get to be part of the family.
 
I was thinking of how Baldvin knows Eyetalk, i would assume he learned it from either his parents or the local Seeress.

I would not be surprised if the Seeress IS his mother, marring a Seeress would be a powerful political move for Corpsemaker.

Honestly, i am not convinced abaout the "every Norse woman knows Seidr" part of the Worldbuilding. Makes Seidr and Seeress feel less special or important.
 
I don't think we've come close to meeting every norse woman, and the women Halla does know are pretty exceptional, on average, I think.

🤔 I wonder if you'd get some sort of Boon for actually going out and properly meeting Every Single Living Norse Woman in the world. It'd be hard but given the settlement sizes and number of settlements it might not be impossible? Figuring out how to get to Iceland might be tricky, though.
 
I don't think we've come close to meeting every norse woman, and the women Halla does know are pretty exceptional, on average, I think.

🤔 I wonder if you'd get some sort of Boon for actually going out and properly meeting Every Single Living Norse Woman in the world. It'd be hard but given the settlement sizes and number of settlements it might not be impossible? Figuring out how to get to Iceland might be tricky, though.
Every Norse woman who have been given a name and then appeared onscreen, which is quite different from 'irrelevant Norsewomen who only exist in the background'.
 
I was thinking of how Baldvin knows Eyetalk, i would assume he learned it from either his parents or the local Seeress.

I would not be surprised if the Seeress IS his mother, marring a Seeress would be a powerful political move for Corpsemaker.

Remember also that Steelfathers cannot actually sire children, so he's very likely adopted.

Honestly, i am not convinced abaout the "every Norse woman knows Seidr" part of the Worldbuilding. Makes Seidr and Seeress feel less special or important.

I mean, my impression is that most women know, like, the Domestic Spells from Weave Seidr and then maybe some Wards or medical stuff, but not a lot else.
 
Agreeing broadly with deadman, overall I suspect that there's a difference between 'knows any seidr' and 'is a proper seidkona/seeress'.
 
Agreeing broadly with deadman, overall I suspect that there's a difference between 'knows any seidr' and 'is a proper seidkona/seeress'.

There very explicitly is, yeah. The real question is how many spells most Norsewomen know...the vibe I get at the moment is, like, 3-8 (counting the domestic stuff as one). Halla knows 35 and a proper Seeress likely significantly more.
 
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Being a full Seeress is a pretty big deal. Halla as yet can't call herself a Seeress even with all the Seidr she knows.
 
I don't think we've come close to meeting every norse woman, and the women Halla does know are pretty exceptional, on average, I think.

🤔 I wonder if you'd get some sort of Boon for actually going out and properly meeting Every Single Living Norse Woman in the world. It'd be hard but given the settlement sizes and number of settlements it might not be impossible? Figuring out how to get to Iceland might be tricky, though.

I mean, the population of the Scandinavia peninsula in this time should be araound 200.000 people. That is a lot of people to meet.

And it also depends on what you mean by "meeting". Like, just seeing their face in a crowd is enough? Or you need to talk with them? Or you need to know their name? Or should they remember your name?

in any case it would be a titanic effort, but i suppose a Boon gained from such a feat would be something like "you litteraly know everyone everywere, you can get rumors and news from any place, you can find informations on anybody easly and you can ask for a lot of favors".

Remember also that Steelfathers cannot actually sire children, so he's very likely adopted.

I know, i trought he could have sired him before becoming a Steelfather.

I mean, my impression is that most women know, like, the Domestic Spells from Weave Seidr and then maybe some Wards or medical stuff, but not a lot else.

Yeah, you are right, it makes sense. I wasn't really thinking it trough.
 
in any case it would be a titanic effort, but i suppose a Boon gained from such a feat would be something like "you litteraly know everyone everywere, you can get rumors and news from any place, you can find informations on anybody easly and you can ask for a lot of favors".
realistically: IF collapses from trying to write details from us basically being mini Odin with our mini Hugr and Muninn bringing us news from everywhere in Midgard
 
'Exchange names with all the norse wife-women' might be both more practically achievable and also give a slightly more flavorful boon of basically being looped into every wife-gossip circle in the world?
 
'Exchange names with all the norse wife-women' might be both more practically achievable and also give a slightly more flavorful boon of basically being looped into every wife-gossip circle in the world?
Well, any form of 'from all around the world' will cause IF to collapse from exhaustion unless it's, like, really brief. IF's word output is not that crazy. Even just, say, gossip in the Hading for notable news about other families in Asvir alone would probably take a nontrivial amount of words.
 
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I'm down with generally going that route in the future, but it's a bit late for that now and not buying these people is a huge feel bad moment that I'd prefer to avoid, as well as turning down a bunch of real potential advantages.

This is sort of where I am. It would feel really Not Great to walk away and leave this people now we've seen them and put faces to them. Definitely in favour of Not Interacting with anything thrall-related in future, as best as we're able, unless it's opportunities to free them.

'Exchange names with all the norse wife-women' might be both more practically achievable and also give a slightly more flavorful boon of basically being looped into every wife-gossip circle in the world?
Well, any form of 'from all around the world' will cause IF to collapse from exhaustion unless it's, like, really brief. IF's word output is not that crazy. Even just, say, gossip in the Hading for notable news about other families in Asvir alone would probably take a nontrivial amount of words.

I for one look forward to us accidentally getting Halla cancelled on Norse Wife Twitter.
 
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Taking part in this is not ideal but at least this way we can figure out what these people want and help them get it.
 
This is sort of where I am. It would feel really Not Great to walk away and leave this people now we've seen them and put faces to them. Definitely in favour of Not Interacting with anything thrall-related in future, as best as we're able, unless it's opportunities to free them.

Do you remember that this entire mission is abaout tracking down a Christian Thrall and have him/her teach us Latin right?
 
Do you remember that this entire mission is abaout tracking down a Christian Thrall and have him/her teach us Latin right?

Yeah, but as we discussed at the time, the plan is to free them as well. Either as a quid-pro-quo (which I have mixed feelings about due to the transactional nature) or immediately and then ask for lessons in exchange for wages/a trip home when we go to Wessex (which I'm more in favour of).
 
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