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Empress_Boog said:
The problem with the Inline is that it takes internal space, and that was the whole benefit of taking Full Saucer.
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Well, yes? The point of getting more internal space is so we can use that internal space.

And getting inline is USING THAT INTERNAL SPACE.

One could argue that this is exactly why we took ful saucer to begin with. To take an option that actually takes advantage of the internal space.

Or to use a different analogy, you buy a bigger bag so you get more space. But you dont want to put more stuff in because... you dont want to lose that extra space. What?
 
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Edit: on second thought, I've been argued around...
Pending confirmation of whether or not we still get to play with the nacelles.
 
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[X] Inline Deflector (-Internal Space)

Preservation of what space we have for more science labs and equipment while only adding an extra 20 kilotons seems like a good tradeoff to me.

Edit: Changing my vote to Inline. I've been brought around to the argument that we've got a sufficient amount of space to not crimp the ship's tasks should we go for it.
 
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abominable said:
Or to use a different analogy, you buy a bigger bag so you get more space. But you dont want to put more stuff in because... you dont want to lose that extra space. What?
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The internal space is to stuff full of SCIENCE. And this may be Trek heresy but. . . the deflector doesn't make us any better at science.
 
abominable said:
Or to use a different analogy, you buy a bigger bag so you get more space. But you dont want to put more stuff in because... you dont want to lose that extra space. What?
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To continue the metaphor, I at least would like to put something else in that space (more science) which requires that the extra space not be used up and lost until the point where we can put that in, if that phrasing makes sense?
 
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I say we go for blister or inline as we went for the most expensive option already instead of sphere so lets save money and if we do inline or blister we don't have to worry about an engineering hull blocking gun ain't lines and causing us to have to add more weapons.

Also we should if possibwl go for a single nacelle like the saladin class and has archer from strange new worlds which are canon and cool rare designs.

But yeah blister or inline, single nacelle and probably 3 phasers 2 forward 1 aft, and 1 forward probe launcher/torpedo launcher.
 
abominable said:
Well, yes? The point of getting more internal space is so we can use that internal space.

And getting inline is USING THAT INTERNAL SPACE.

One could argue that this is exactly why we took ful saucer to begin with. To take an option that actually takes advantage of the internal space.

Or to use a different analogy, you buy a bigger bag so you get more space. But you dont want to put more stuff in because... you dont want to lose that extra space. What?
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Quoting that post is disingenuous, I later go onto to say that I want to use the extra space for more science and not a deflector.

It was in the next post I made.
 
abominable said:
Well, yes? The point of getting more internal space is so we can use that internal space.

And getting inline is USING THAT INTERNAL SPACE.

One could argue that this is exactly why we took ful saucer to begin with. To take an option that actually takes advantage of the internal space.

Or to use a different analogy, you buy a bigger bag so you get more space. But you dont want to put more stuff in because... you dont want to lose that extra space. What?
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As mentioned, the general argument is that the stuff we want to use the extra room for is things like science labs and, I will definitely argue for, at least a basic engineering boost (science and engineering being in a fairly committed relationship); that said I will change to inline in a heartbeat if it's a requirement to do something unusual with the nacelles, because I really want to do that.
 
7th Hex said:
To continue the metaphor, I at least would like to put something else in that space (more science) which requires that the extra space not be used up and lost until then, if that makes sense?
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Makes more sense yes. Initial comment made it sound like it would literally be kept empty, presumable for cargo, supplies, maybe even specimens and whatnot.

Empress_Boog said:
Quoting that post is disingenuous, I later go onto to say that I want to use the extra space for more science and not a deflector.

It was in the next post I made.
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Clarifying it in your next comment is fair. Quoting it, however, is not disingenious. It's your quote. It's up to you to clarify your point, and while you did so as you mentioned, it was, as you also said, in another comment. One I havent read. Which takes us to another point, nobody's really expected to keep track of all your comments, not even me. So while it's not exactly your fault, it's not mine either.

Edit: On the off chance I sound snarky or something, im not. Would def have been more proper to see all the comments and exchanges to fully understand the convo, it's also not really a requirement for readers. Hence why i said nobody's really at fault.
 
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[X] Inline Deflector (-Internal Space)
[X] Blister Forward Deflector (200,000 -> 220,000 Tons)

Also we shouldn't do an engineering hull cause that will increase cost and block lines of sight for weapons meaning we need more, and we should go for 1 nacelle if possible like the saladin/archer class seen in strange new worlds which looks cool is canon and is a rare design
 
[X] Blister Forward Deflector (200,000 -> 220,000 Tons)

[X] Inline Deflector (-Internal Space)

Want to avoid going off prompt from Survey Ship, adding engineering probably wont help with keeping this from becoming another warship.
 
[X] Blister Forward Deflector (200,000 -> 220,000 Tons)

I feel like this is a good compromise, as I don't think we need a WHOLE Engineering Section for this thing.
 
[X] Inline Deflector (-Internal Space)
[X] Blister Forward Deflector (200,000 -> 220,000 Tons)

This is me being indecisive beyond definitely not wanting the secondary hull. The arguments for one of these over the other aren't all that strong with current information, to my mind.
 
abominable said:
Clarifying it in your next comment is fair. Quoting it, however, is not disingenious. It's your quote. It's up to you to clarify your point, and while you did so as you mentioned, it was, as you also said, in another comment. One I havent read. Which takes us to another point, nobody's really expected to keep track of all your comments, not even me. So while it's not exactly your fault, it's not mine either.

Edit: On the off chance I sound snarky or something, im not. Would def have been more proper to see all the comments and exchanges to fully understand the convo, it's also not really a requirement for readers. Hence why i said nobody's really at fault.
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Yeah, I originally chose those words when I thought it had been clarified in the same post, when I went back to check and realized I hadn't I just didn't change the wording and probably should have. It's all good, no hurt feelings here lol.
 
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