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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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I do think that at a later point it's worth spending some time poking at the original orbital enchantment, since we do have an actual decoding of how it works, we're just missing a trick regarding how it was made scalable for mass production.

That said, any such poking should probably happen after we figure out the leyline transmission method - it seems plausible to me that the "trick" making that enchantment feasible might rely on some quirks of that that don't carry over to the river method.
 
I can not remember can we bring people on elfcation? Like say Eike, some of baby sitter Eike, max to get books, Johann to make friends, and maybe Engrimm since he is responsible and trustworthy.
 
Nurgle said:
I can not remember can we bring people on elfcation? Like say Eike, some of baby sitter Eike, max to get books, Johann to make friends, and maybe Engrimm since he is responsible and trustworthy.
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I'm pretty sure we can bring Eike since apprentices are a form of baggage.

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[X] Eike
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Amber College
[X] Skull River Ambush
 
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Nurgle said:
I can not remember can we bring people on elfcation? Like say Eike, some of baby sitter Eike, max to get books, Johann to make friends, and maybe Engrimm since he is responsible and trustworthy.
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Only Mathilde has permission to visit Nagarythe. However the port city of Lothern is open to all and we could have one or more of our minions hang around sight-seeing for three months.
 
Nurgle said:
I can not remember can we bring people on elfcation? Like say Eike, some of baby sitter Eike, max to get books, Johann to make friends, and maybe Engrimm since he is responsible and trustworthy.
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We can't bring anyone to Naggarythe, as the token is an invite for just us. We can bring people to Ulthuan and leave them in Lothern, though. That works okay for Eike, as three months alone in the greatest centre of trade in the greatest magical kingdom in the world is in itself a good learning opportunity and a chance to spread her wings, especially if we leave her with a task like helping with book/EIC contracts on top of her studies.

For our employees, we'd need a good enough reason for them to be there. It has to be something that both gets them sufficient credit and that they can't do back in the Old World. Babysitting our apprentice doesn't count.
 
Is Niedzwenka supposed to be Mother Ostankya before Mother Ostankya was invented or does Mother Ostankya also exist, like the Thorek to Niedzwenka's Kragg?
 
Andres said:
Is Niedzwenka supposed to be Mother Ostankya before Mother Ostankya was invented or does Mother Ostankya also exist, like the Thorek to Niedzwenka's Kragg?
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Boney has indicated that Niedzwenka is specifically the Sea Hag from Realm of the Ice Queen.

I don't know if he's stated whether or not Ostankya also exists in DL.

(If we're doing a comparison, Niedzwenka seems focused on the Erengrad coastal area, while I'm pretty sure Ostankya makes her home in the Dukhlys Forest in the east of Kislev)
 
Nurgle said:
I can not remember can we bring people on elfcation? Like say Eike, some of baby sitter Eike, max to get books, Johann to make friends, and maybe Engrimm since he is responsible and trustworthy.
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Chopak said:
m pretty sure we can bring Eike since apprentices are a form of baggage.
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Boney said it might be possible for Mathilde to treat her as baggage for purpose of getting her in.

But, and this is me saying this, we really really shouldn't.

We would be taking her to some incredibly cursed and half-drowned wastelands that have been in near-perpetual warfare with one side of guerilla torture-assassins and one side of slaver-colonists for several thousand millennia. It is possibly the one location in all the world where the largest amount of elves have ever cumulatively died.

The former capital is a city that has been repeatedly taken, sacked, destroyed, and then rebuilt again in a sort of endless back-and forth since Malekith has tried to use it as a staging point to launch further attacks onto Ulthuan.

It is absolutely not the sort of first bloodying experience we want to bring Eike on.
 
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spiritualatheist said:
I disagree. We can upgrade to a model with less upkeep later, but there's an Everchosen on the way; we absolutely need to get as many waystones into the ground as we can right now.
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I think that is just the worst way to see it. Waystones will take years to deploy and them will slowly reduce background magic, they are a long term solution for a long term problem. They are not going to be what makes or breaks it against the Everchosen, rushing deployment will just leaves us with a half assed solution for a diferent problem.
 
Niedzwiedz is Polish for "Bear", with "-enka" being a feminine suffix. Once put through the patented Warhammer grammar-mangler, that's pretty close to making her "Mother Bear".
 
[X] Eike
[X] The Black Water Canal
[X] Tzar Boris Bokha
[X] Eonir Tourism
 
Boney said:
Sure enough, you're pretty sure that creating the enchantment detailed here would be within the capabilities of even most human enchanters, but that doesn't mean you understand how it works - it's all elegant interweavings and interdependent and recursively self-referential crosshatchings.
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Looking under the hood, this is a mess of several hundred unlabeled GOTO statements that would make any sane programmer cry if they had to trace the control flow but so long as it's copied down line-for-line, it all works fine.
 
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Glau said:
like this. Especially because no winds will ever get in, so they might just stay skulls forever, their own personal afterlife.
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I'm pretty sure vampires can regenerate from any piece of themselves, not just the skull, so presumably they'd eventually start regenerating from some random hair or drop of blood they left somewhere.
 
I guess that, if we consider that we still want to negotiate with Ulthuan about this whole thing, then we could aim the Prototype to be something well made and as elegant as possible. It could be possible that we could recreate the original enchantment by exchanging notes for example.
 
Tomcost said:
I guess that, if we consider that we still want to negotiate with Ulthuan about this whole thing, then we could aim the Prototype to be something well made and as elegant as possible. It could be possible that we could recreate the original enchantment by exchanging notes for example.
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I dunno, there's something to be said for the image of Teclis walking in with a beaming paternal smile, getting one look at the horrifying papier-mache monstrosity we've clunked together out of spare parts and recoiling in horror.
 
Gavin Prince said:
I dunno, there's something to be said for the image of Teclis walking in with a beaming paternal smile, getting one look at the horrifying papier-mache monstrosity we've clunked together out of spare parts and recoiling in horror.
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I feel like Teclis could take one look at the monstrous reverse-engineered storage mechanism and then after a few very pleasant evenings be able to simplify it to something that 'only' needs dedicated human enchanters to churn out rather than elven Archmages.
 
We seem very close at this point to changing the waystone project from an engineering problem to an economic problem. Where we need people to put together estimates of the economic value for removing X amount of Duar.

If putting up a waystone pays for itself within 2 years then it is basically an automatic investment. But when the pay back rate gets longer than that people start getting cold feet.
 
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