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Between Skaven, Elves and Vampires I'd argue it's at least double digits.
[x] The Locked Room Murder: Too perfect version
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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[x] The Locked Room Murder: Too perfect version
Mopman43
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I'm not sure there are any Elves in the Old World that are trained in assassination, though.
Being able to use Ulgu obviously covers a lot, but I'm not sure that a Spellsinger could match what Mathilde does, just because they don't have a background in infiltration and assassination.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Mathilde Weber has already touched that Tsar.
[X] Plan: Spontaneous Heart Attack
Sheer Heart Attack has no weaknesses!
[X] Plan: Spontaneous Heart Attack
Sheer Heart Attack has no weaknesses!
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[X] Nighttime Visit With Style
All MMM plans look over-the-top to me. We are trying to paint a picture of Lahmian assassin who tries to leave as few clues as possible. Installing GIANT SHADOW BLENDER in your victim's heart doesn't scream "subtle" to me.
All MMM plans look over-the-top to me. We are trying to paint a picture of Lahmian assassin who tries to leave as few clues as possible. Installing GIANT SHADOW BLENDER in your victim's heart doesn't scream "subtle" to me.
[X] Plan: Spontaneous Heart Attack
-[X] Sneak into the Tzar's room, use mockery of death on him then implant him with a Matrix loaded with Shadow Dagger loaded. Set the matrix to go off the next day at a time the Tzar is likely to be in a public place.
So, just for the sake of discussion, do we *want* to provide evidence for boris to purge his political enemies? There was a pretty solid undercurrent of, "Well, if we don't kill the Tsar, kislev falls into civil war and we can't have that," in the last vote, and just killing him mundanely works for that. The lahmian frame up feels like a step further. I'm fine with it personally, but I wouldn't want the assassination puzzle to distract people from considering whether they want to actually support boris further that way.
-[X] Sneak into the Tzar's room, use mockery of death on him then implant him with a Matrix loaded with Shadow Dagger loaded. Set the matrix to go off the next day at a time the Tzar is likely to be in a public place.
So, just for the sake of discussion, do we *want* to provide evidence for boris to purge his political enemies? There was a pretty solid undercurrent of, "Well, if we don't kill the Tsar, kislev falls into civil war and we can't have that," in the last vote, and just killing him mundanely works for that. The lahmian frame up feels like a step further. I'm fine with it personally, but I wouldn't want the assassination puzzle to distract people from considering whether they want to actually support boris further that way.
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The 8th edition Armybook states on the very first page that standard tactics for the Wood Elves is to approach under magical concealment and assassinate the enemy warlord before the battle even begins.
Sure, I can't give you a quote that says that there's an Ulgu Spellsinger who does exactly what Mathilde does, there's like two paragraphs of lore on the Spellsingers total, but I find it ridiculous human exceptionalism to suggest that even though they practice assassinating enemy leaders and use magical concealment to cover their approach, it has never once occurred to the elves that "Hmm, Ulgu would be good for assassination."
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[X] The Locked Room Murder: Too perfect version
It's not human exeptionalism, it's exceptional exeptionalism. Most people don't have Advanced Assassination, Advanced Infiltration, and a Magic Infiltration Trait. Mathilde us just really, really good at this.
Somic
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Personally, I'm all in on supporting Boribro (Broris?)
Cool person, making the best of his situation, fluent in "Fuck Chaos", also my heartstrings have been tugged by the way he didn't expect us to care about Kislev, like mannnn we gotta prop up that faith in humanity or something
(it's different from Bretonnia because they aren't directly first in line to get Chaos'd and also they were weird about the whole thing, idk something about the vibe)
I mean sure it makes him like us a bit more and it's not like we have any reason to spare potentially vampire connected boyars. We lose nothing and gain something by giving him the scapegoats, not to mention that we make it that much less likely that someone will stumble on the truth which Mathilde really does not want.
[x] Nighttime Visit
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The way I would do it if I was QM, there would be some amount of rolling to see how well the takeover goes for Boris. The amount of spectacle involved in the plan would then function to modify that roll. As such, I am not entirely sure which of the current plans to vote for. Spontaneous heart attack still has space for Matthilde to figure out how to get creative with the spell placement though, since I could see internal shadow daggers being both very subtle or very graphic, depending on how they are placed.
[X] Plan: Spontaneous Heart Attack
[X] Plan: Spontaneous Heart Attack
[x] Nighttime Visit
[x] Nighttime Visit With Style
[x] Plan: Nighttime Heart Attack
[x] Nighttime Visit With Style
[x] Plan: Nighttime Heart Attack
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No, because that's not part of the plan. That would need to be written into the plan, which it most certainly isn't. NIghttime Visitor is accepting failure.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
Okay so to argue for my plan I'd like to talk about the logic being used for the theoretical Lamia assassination.
- Nighttime Visit With style will certainly kill him, I won't deny that. But my biggest issue is that it has some questions afterwards that don't make sense. Like the Mockery of Death thing works to make the Tzar not struggle when killed, but if you were going through that effort why specifically use a shadow knife rather than a normal knife? Why stab him when you could slit his throat? It is a square bit of logic that I don't get and I worry will cause problems. Hell why even stab him and not instead try to make it look natural?
- Spontaneous Heart Attack: This is my plan so I am bias but the idea behind it is that the "Lamia Vampire" is using this method in order to kill the Tzar in a way that looks like natural causes. The internal shadow knife will shred his internal organs but leave no external damage, so if it goes off it will likely look like the Tzar suddenly clutched his chest in pain and then just died.
The reason this happened in a public place is to provide witnesses that the Tzar had a heart attack or something and make it appear like it was a natural death. This would be the goal of the theoretical Lamia as it would eliminate an enemy without arousing suspicion or giving a mundane assassination as an excuse for the new Tzar to do a purge or beef up his security too much.
"Unfortunately" Boris has the body examined more closely than expected and finds that his dad suffered from magically induced organ blending. Which gives him all the ammo he needs.
- Why a stab to the heart? Because you are a vampire and have something of a complex about things going into your heart, that being one of the way you get paralyzed into eternal suffering.
- Why use a blade made out of shadow (or generally out of magic)? Because you are a lady and a witch, you do not carry common weapons, you make them out of magic.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
- That seems like a very flimsy justification to do that rather than the traditional throat slit that would also be easier to aim due to not having to deal with the blankets.
- Keep in mind that the Shadow Dagger variation is a unique thing for Mathilde that we have yet to codify. Most people with shadow knives has to throw them. So most Vampires would be used to using normal knives rather than shadow knives.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
[x] Nighttime Visit
Mathilde will stab them because shadow knife goes through non-magical armor, so the untouched clothing can serve as a really subtle clue (one we can tell Boris to use as a justification, if necessary) that something fucky went on.
Why would a Lahmian do it with magic rather than a knife? Because not carrying a knife allows you to feign innocence. During infiltration, if spotted, you could go "I am but an unarmed woman" and have a pretty decent chance of gettting away with it. As for the shadow dagger not being a common mastery? Fair, but she could just throw a normal one into his heart. Also, other people also have unknown magic. Boris doesn't require a crime scene he can perfectly reconstruct using known magics. He just needs something he can use to point at his targerts (on whom it seems he already has dirt in other ways).
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
You know what would make it really look like a non-Mathilde vampire committed the murder? If the Tsar's body was subsequently raised as a powerful undead monstrosity!
I suppose Boris might become a teeny bit suspicious of Mathilde afterwards, and it doesn't exactly "leave behind no evidence", but aside from those minor quibbles it is a perfect plan!
I suppose Boris might become a teeny bit suspicious of Mathilde afterwards, and it doesn't exactly "leave behind no evidence", but aside from those minor quibbles it is a perfect plan!