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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
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It involved a completely different skill set, different horses, and different weapons and tactics (they primarily used shield walls in the kind of battle where cavalry would be useful). There's also the economic factor: Horses were in fact expensive and prestigious for the Norse to own, so risking them in battle was not economically incentivized.
I'm sure some Norse dude fought on horseback at some point in history, but they never fielded units of cavalry.
Scandinavia is not the most fertile or temperate place, which is part of this. However I also believe current historiography is a bit more sceptical of the idea that the Norse did not fight mounted full stop; especially in Ireland or in continental Europe we see a few attestations of small mounted engagements. But generally the fact that Viking raids depended on fairly small ships, plus the climate of Scandinavia and Norse agriculture during the time period not being amazingly productive contributed to very little mounted fighting amongst by elites. Horses were valuable, and kept mostly for riding.
However, it's worth noting that the Normans were the descendants of Norse warriors and farmers who conquered and settled in Northern France, and became excellent cavalrymen. So good in fact that they then went on to fight and conquer kingdoms all over Europe and the Mediterranean, including Sicily and England to name a few. So given the right circumstances and opportunity (I.E., living in Normandy and not Norway), it seems that the Norse could absolutely translate their martial tradition into formidable prowess as mounted warriors.
I can see how much effort and time has gone into this plan, looks really good.
Only thing that comes to mind before I go to sleep is maybe put a bit more dice into the IAT? If the wolf is attacking us when we use IAT, then they might be resisting IAT using their attacking pool of dice rather than their defending one, so plausibly that could be like 20d6. So I'd add like 9 Orthstirr to bump IAT up to 25d6, that way we'd have to get really unlucky for them to wriggle out of it.
Anyway, looks good, and I like the idea of giving Stoking Strike a bit of a test-drive.
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Thanks!
I actually just fiddled a little and upped them to 18d6 each. And we're not using it defensively, so I don't think they should be able to oppose it with their offense...and more importantly, if they do, it's probably all three of their offenses added together (since they've been mentioned to work like dwarves in that regard), which makes it likely that even the higher dice pool wouldn't be sufficient.
[X] Plan Let's Try Stoker State
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The Norse, as well as just about everybody with access to horses, used mounted infantry. That is, they rode into battle, dismounted, and then fought on foot. If you see mention of horses in regards to Norse combat, it is almost always going to be in that manner. Now, that's not to say that they didn't fight from horseback because I'd be willing to bet money on some Norseman, somewhere, having decided to hop on his horse to fight some ruffians on his property. If some guy decided to use a sled runner instead of his readily available weapons—to great effect no less!—then somebody absolutely fought from horseback and, knowing how effectively the Norse tended to use improvised arms and armor, I would also bet that the guy absolutely clowned on the people he fought.
And then probably fell through a lake or something while riding across it to impress his friends.
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There's got to be a guy with a Horse hugareida around here somewhere.
Or a Horse fylgja. That would solve the problem with needing to train it.
Or a Horse fylgja. That would solve the problem with needing to train it.
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Stuff like this really makes me want us to have more Sharpened Senses and/or a Hamr trick to make our hearing more sensitive.
I think we might need more attacks, just, generally.
Framarr Heavyhand has something ant-related. Magic Item, Flygjur, or something else?
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You ever wonder where Taylor reincarnated after the headshot?
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Dorri just reminded us that we did not need permission, not gave us permission.
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For three wolves? All which should require two attacks to kill at most based on supposed Hamr scores (they max out at Hamr 5-6 each based on it being a lot lower than ours, and I'd be shocked if they had even double that in Endurance)? And with two counterattacks per attack we get targeted with to boot?
I mean, we're making 15 attacks already (not counting our counterattacks) for a grand total of at least 72 damage (and that assumes Stoking Strikes and Sword Strikes both deal no more damage than a basic attack...it's probably significantly higher than that), plus another 13 damage per pair of counterattacks (8 from the Skewer-Flick, 5 from the Atgeir Counter Stab).
I sincerely think we're probably throwing out enough damage to kill all nine wolves if the attacks all hit, never mind the three we're fighting. Now, if we don't hit, that's more troublesome, but really that'd be an argument for more dice per attack, not more attacks.
Technically correct, but my point is that he could have lent us his authority and prestige rather than merely stepping out of the way...if we'd rolled better. And much as he says we don't need his permission, and that's technically true, if we hadn't gotten it he easily could've gotten offended and made our request and our lives more difficult...so I'm pretty sure, in practice, we did in fact want, if not perhaps strictly need, his permission.
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My point is that the bolded part is wrong - He wasn't 'in the way' to begin with.
Of course, we're more likely to succeed in these kind of things if we have a better relationship with his family..
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As I edited in, I think in practice he was. Or at least could've been. We may not technically need the headman's permission to conduct private business, but if we conduct private business he really doesn't like, particularly at a gathering he's in charge of, he has a lot of tools to express his displeasure, so asking his permission to conduct said business at such an event is still a good idea and what he did was still, in practice, granting that permission.
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He also warned us against accidentally brushing up against someone's pride.
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I do think we definitely want to hit for sure. Especially the first few attacks, if we kill and immobilize one or two wolves, then the fight become way more straightforward to handle.
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There are two constants, worm crossovers and familiar of zero crossovers.
Anyways, rather then Halla going somewhere, the far more interesting option in my opinion is if Abjorn went there instead. Abjorn is strong enough to solve most physical problems in most settings relatively easily, yet his personality doesn't lend itself well to actively dealing with threats of a more subtle nature. Halla, on the other hand, is savvy enough to understand what's going on—for the most part. The sheer wtf and oocp factor of Halla on a rampage would be entertaining for a bit, but after the initial novelty wears off it would probably get old fast.
Also, speaking of Worm, NorseQuest's Norse may be one of Taylor's worst possible match-ups beyond mere power-vs-power, but also in mentality. After all, NorseQuest's Norse literally out-stubborn reality into letting them live past otherwise 100% lethal wounds, which is a little funny.
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Y'know what, fair enough, I'll add, like, 6d6 to the three Stoking Strikes. That's cheap enough.
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Man, if some superpowered viking showed up in Brockton Bay they would probably get in like three cape fights before anyone believed that they weren't with Empire 88
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Alright, so, in terms of power levels, weapons, and brief descriptions, our composition of our side in this fight is:
Upper Top
-Nainn Rotting (Second-Grade Berserk) - Rot Hugareida and Kenning to go with it, Spear, Sword, No Armor - Headman's Hird, No personality description.
Top
-Heima Smiles (Second-Grade Berserk) - Sword and Shield - Kyrsvikingar, described as creepy and probably sociopathic. Does not have cheeks.
Lower Top
-Vagn Wheel-Drifter (First-Grade Berserk) - Spear - New in Agder (he's a Geat), jovial and friendly, hit on Halla but politely and took no for an answer, looking for some excitement.
-Nokkvi Good-Oars - Giant Blooded, Axe and Sax - Boat and rowing obsessed, friends with Eric, maybe a member of the Kyrsvikingar?
-Skoll the Hasty - Spear, Axe, Sax, and Shield - No known affiliation, ogled Halla immediately and gives off bad vibes.
-Halla Skyfire (Second-Grade Berserk) - More Hugareida Than You, Atgeir and two Saxes - No actual affiliation, friendly but clearly Very Married.
Presumably everyone is wearing armor except for Nainn since his not having it was notable. I suspect the rest all have mail, but someone could theoretically be wearing only a Gambeson. None but Nainn (and Halla) are notable for their Hugareida, but that doesn't mean they don't have them, just that it's not their main schtick.
Upper Top
-Nainn Rotting (Second-Grade Berserk) - Rot Hugareida and Kenning to go with it, Spear, Sword, No Armor - Headman's Hird, No personality description.
Top
-Heima Smiles (Second-Grade Berserk) - Sword and Shield - Kyrsvikingar, described as creepy and probably sociopathic. Does not have cheeks.
Lower Top
-Vagn Wheel-Drifter (First-Grade Berserk) - Spear - New in Agder (he's a Geat), jovial and friendly, hit on Halla but politely and took no for an answer, looking for some excitement.
-Nokkvi Good-Oars - Giant Blooded, Axe and Sax - Boat and rowing obsessed, friends with Eric, maybe a member of the Kyrsvikingar?
-Skoll the Hasty - Spear, Axe, Sax, and Shield - No known affiliation, ogled Halla immediately and gives off bad vibes.
-Halla Skyfire (Second-Grade Berserk) - More Hugareida Than You, Atgeir and two Saxes - No actual affiliation, friendly but clearly Very Married.
Presumably everyone is wearing armor except for Nainn since his not having it was notable. I suspect the rest all have mail, but someone could theoretically be wearing only a Gambeson. None but Nainn (and Halla) are notable for their Hugareida, but that doesn't mean they don't have them, just that it's not their main schtick.
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Abjorn (Brute 5 / Master 2) is an ursokinetic, with the power to create and manipulate bear. (Not just 'bears' but the concept of bear)
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I mean, we have a 'Skyfire' Kenning so people probably expect a lot of flying around and fire usage. Which is fair and correct.
From our one raid with Folkmarr's Felag us having some sort of powerful defensive magic (people in the know would recognize Standstill) is likely also known, since we used that quite a bit in the Squire fight and against Father Gerrit. From the incident at Horra's place, I think us doing the bomb-boulder thing was probably the most notable, but that just feeds back into the 'Skyfire' thing.
So, yeah, I think what we're known for is flight, fire-based attacks, and Standstill. Per Audrikr we're also known as a technical fighter...someone who thinks through the way they fight rather than just throwing themselves in. Which is definitely fair.
Oh! There's also the still-nascent Nutcracker thing going around, which people may well have heard about and indicates we're willing to fight dirty. So that's definitely also part of our rep.
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