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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Sirrocco said:
Let's recall that Steinarr is really bad at teaching things. Like, he's a terrifying combatant, too... but that didn't translate to all that much combat training.
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Actually it really did. We learned how to fight pretty well from his training including some Tricks we have since had proven were excellent (we learned all six of Shatter-Wrist, Power Chop, Leaping Cleave, Reinforce Shield, Hefty-Halter Chop and Sidestep from him directly which is most of our non-Hugareida combat tricks...I think we got Skewer-Flick and Slice-Aside from Halfdan, and I'd have to check where we picked up Sway and Chuck) and 6 Training Dice per turn for several years. Steinarr is a bad teacher because he has to be prompted for every specific thing he teaches you, he just forgets you don't already know stuff and thus doesn't teach you basic things...but if you already know the basics, he's actually excellent at teaching specific techniques. If we showed him those seeds, his advice on what to do with them would probably be very on-point.

The Lone badger said:
If christians got muna, I'd wonder if he got one from witnessing The Flight Of The Skyfire.
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They probably do. The Muna/Hugareida system is very reminiscent of Dao Insights, which makes me think there are versions in all Cultivation systems. Gabriel's system likely call theirs Revelations.

The Lone badger said:
And if his teenage awakening means he's going to want a warrior-wife when he gets back home. Slim pickings in christendom, but there must be some terrifying nuns and saintesses out there.
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And noblewomen. Remember there's a third path of cultivation for Nobles. And the fourth catch-all of 'Errants'.

Koguyra said:
Stigr probably used his spear more than his sword because he can't shapeshift like the others so the extra range is a godsend for a squishy like him.
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Plausible, though I was at least half kidding when I commented on it.
 
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Shard said:
Blackhand, that wasn't you, right. Right. Right?

Totally couldn't be you.
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'Look, alright. I was participating in the contest but I was not the assassin. Assassinations aren't really my style. I may or may not have been the one to set the guy on fire, though — in an attempt to save the Great King — but that's not important.'
Shard said:
To earn Orthsirr, words of my deeds need to be heard by others. Does it matter who those deeds are heard by, such as if it is a thrall or jarl instead of a karl? Would non-Norsemen like the Finnish people count? What about beings like Dwarves or Svartalfar or Jotun? What about if my deeds were heard by a different Norse village that hates my guts?
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'In order; not really, yes, but only positively, I don't know, and depends.'
Skippy said:
Thanks for the great update Imperial Fister. Nice to see the plan worked out okay, and exciting to see Halla beginning to unravel the mystic truths of poking things with pointy sticks!
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Thank you for reading and for the laugh! A Reward Dice to you!
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Yeah, that's probably a large part of what's going on with him.
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And also the fact that she's, more or less, the only woman around (besides Asva, but pft) while he was going through puberty. God essentially said to Gabriel 'You will be attracted to this woman, lmao, nerd.'
Koguyra said:
Stigr probably used his spear more than his sword because he can't shapeshift like the others so the extra range is a godsend for a squishy like him.
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Exactly this
 
Imperial Fister said:
'Look, alright. I was participating in the contest but I was not the assassin. Assassinations aren't really my style. I may or may not have been the one to set the guy on fire, though — in an attempt to save the Great King — but that's not important.'
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..Sure, Blackhand, whatever you need to tell yourself.

(What are the odds Blackhand got outlawed from Miklagard? Can't possibly be that high. Right. Right? :) at Blackhand. The successor of the Great King can't possibly be happy at Blackhand's interference for starters.)
Imperial Fister said:
'In order; not really, yes, but only positively, I don't know, and depends.'
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Interesting.

So the state of the soul is unimportant to Orthsirr generation for another. I suspect the Thrall/Karl/Jarl also extends to if its some super viking or nidinger.

Non-Norsemen can only provide positive Orthsirr for us, not negative Orthsirr. That they can generate Orthsirr for us at all is already quite useful. It means that we could go conquer a non-Norse village or town and earn tons of Orthsirr. This might be part of how the VG have tons of Orthsirr too, fame/Frami in Miklagard and Prestige/Saemd in Norselands.

Nonhumans are a ???

Interesting about rep in different Norse societies. The implication is that you can be negatively impacted feom having bad rep in another Norse society.
 
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How is odr gain calculated? What multiplier do we apply on the total orthstirr?
Also, @Imperial Fister, yesterday you said that the Asvir community thinks of Halla and Abjorn as generous and honourable, but nothing about their prowess? Do they not have any impression of things we may have achieved, like on our raid, or the fight in Horra's compound which earned us a ship as a massive reward?
 
Just caught up to the story yesterday, 2 updates ago. I'm loving the fleshed out setting and cultivation mysteries. I've got so many loose questions and thoughts, I might need to actually sit down and write a list.

[X] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
[X] A dangling plot thread from me, Imperial Fister
 
Solar Saiyan said:
How is odr gain calculated? What multiplier do we apply on the total orthstirr?
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It's 1/9 of one of our Aspects rounded down per turn (we technically don't don't know if it uses the lowest or highest of them, but it almost never matters). So, effectively, 1/27 of our Orthstirr rounded down.

We are currently gaining 17 per turn, but that becomes 18 as soon as we get our End of Year Orthstirr gain, which should actually make it 18 next turn.

Solar Saiyan said:
Also, @Imperial Fister, yesterday you said that the Asvir community thinks of Halla and Abjorn as generous and honourable, but nothing about their prowess? Do they not have any impression of things we may have achieved, like on our raid, or the fight in Horra's compound which earned us a ship as a massive reward?
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We're impressive for our age, but the raid was almost all young people and we did not take pride of place in the fight at Horra's. They clearly think we're badass or we wouldn't be gaining Orthstirr for our badassness, but we're too young to even be in the top third of combatants (ie: adult men and us) in the Valley going by the post on that (we're likely in the top half at less than 20, though, which is nice).
 
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[X] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
[X] A dangling plot thread from me, Imperial Fister
 
Oh no, no, no, wait:

I'll just put these quotes by Blackhand -with relevant bolding- together. Not saying anything, of course.
Imperial Fister said:
'I disagree on the grounds that naked combat is a thing in some places. The Great King of Miklagard in power during my youth was fond of, I believe, judging naked wrestling tournaments. He did this while both he and the contestants were covered in oil.'
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Imperial Fister said:
'Look, alright. I was participating in the contest but I was not the assassin. Assassinations aren't really my style. I may or may not have been the one to set the guy on fire, though — in an attempt to save the Great King — but that's not important.'
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Imperial Fister said:
'I'm sure you'd change your tune if Abjorn were the one doing the wrestling.'
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Imperial Fister said:
'He definitely doesn't lack,' Blackhand muses, as he so often does when your thoughts turn to your prodigious husband.
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Imperial Fister said:
'Gary Tuskpuncher sells both whale and olive oil, for a reasonable price at that.'
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That was a really nice battle show.
Alectai said:
You know, come to think of it, this is the first time Eric's seen Halla in action since her build really started to pop off.

I wonder what the hell was going on in his mind watching his sister fly around, cackling, and unleashing Suns Beneath The Earth on the swarm of Troll Men while otherwise incinerating them with fireballs.
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Probably the same as everyone else:
Why is Halla playing Valkyrie? :V

I know I joke every time I get about it, but it just fits so well....
Imperial Fister said:
And also the fact that she's, more or less, the only woman around (besides Asva, but pft) while he was going through puberty. God essentially said to Gabriel 'You will be attracted to this woman, lmao, nerd.'
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... Yeah, that does explain part of the before battle seriousness.

Well, hang in there, Gabriel!
God gives his hardest battles to his strongest warriors and all that. :V
But, if you do god's work he will surely reward you accordingly, what with god working in mysterious ways?

[X] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
[X] A dangling plot thread from me, Imperial Fister
 
[X] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
[X] A dangling plot thread from me, Imperial Fister
 
Anyways, plot threads..

Did we ever find out why the Troll-Men specifically singled our home out? Enough to specifically localize the basement of our house.

They're dumb.

But I think there's a way for the Trollmen to have single out our house.

You remember that time when we did our Aspect experiments and our Aspects were greedily sucked by the Earth?

And how Blackhand later said that this is normally a natural process, except that there's a bunch of being who want to tap into this process for Reasons(TM)?
 
Shard said:
Oh no, no, no, wait:

I'll just put these quotes by Blackhand -with relevant bolding- together. Not saying anything, of course.
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Male homosexuality in Norse culture is an interesting subject that people still aren't very sure about how that worked (we're even less sure about female homosexuality since there's basically no mention of it at all). In context it seems like being the receptive partner was shameful, but being on top was not, though that may have varied from time to time and place to place (like everything).

And, I mean, learning seidr as a man was also shameful...but Blackhand did it anyway. Being badass enough it takes 9 Steelfathers to kill you is definitely the sort of thing where the Norse in this setting don't say shit about pretty much anything you do any more short of, like, active cowardice or oathbreaking. He seems to have been more interested in women (given the stories we've heard) but being interested in men as well seems highly plausible. Especially given Halla's occasional 'she's so pretty' reactions and them kinda being the same person.

Shard said:
Anyways, plot threads..

Did we ever find out why the Troll-Men specifically singled our home out? Enough to specifically localize the basement of our house.

They're dumb.

But I think there's a way for the Trollmen to have single out our house.

You remember that time when we did our Aspect experiments and our Aspects were greedily sucked by the Earth?

And how Blackhand later said that this is normally a natural process, except that there's a bunch of being who want to tap into this process for Reasons(TM)?
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Nah, our debt to the Witch went away the moment the attack happened. Either she did something to cause it or she sold the debt to someone who did. A specific person actively set up the Troll-Men attack...they had to, or the debt vanishing makes no sense.

We also very specifically didn't do those experiments at our house, we did them at our cultivation spot, which was untouched by the Troll-Men attack.
 
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[X] Feat: 1,200 Troll-men Slain (+3 Orthstirr Yearly)
 
You know if Gabriel wanted to stay I bet we could find him a nice Norse wife... might take a bit to find a warrior wife though if that's what he wants.

Feel like he's been here long enough that he might be interested enough in giving it some thought. Feel like he has seen enough of our culture that he could be interested.

[X] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
[X] A dangling plot thread from me, Imperial Fister
 
Wait, we're not actually sleeping underground right? No negaHamingja right?

Anyways.
Imperial Fister said:
[ ] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
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So, Halla. You might have thought about what an Atgeir is. You might have thought about what it represents. You might have possibly thought of it as a weapon that let you protect your kin and kith, you might have imagined it as Sagaseeker. I'll tell you what! An Atgeir is none of those things. It's not a Shield, Halla! Your kenning isn't two-shield! Now, that begs the question.. what is an Atgeir?

Well.. an Atgeir is just a damn sword on a stick, Halla! But what does that mean? It means. With it you can stab people from far away or up close at your choice. It's styled like the favored weapon of Athena and Odin, the spear. It's not at all the favored weapon of the Norse, the Sword that brings you into the heat of battle where you stab people up close to death.

Why do you think it's 'not the same' when you kill people with your Atgeirr? Because it's not the same, duh! To kill with an Atgeir is to choose the way of death. It is not, like the sword, to taste blood and fear, to have every swing and thrust and block be the edge between living and dying, victory and defeat, glory and death. Orthsirr flows by a Sword more readily than other weapons for good reason, it is the edge of blood-glory. Your blood would sing were you wielding a sword in the bloody heat of melee.

No, an Atgeir is the weapon of choice for the thinking warrior or rather tactician and strategist. Audrikr your friend prefers using his mind in battle, Odin leads the warfront among the Aesir and Athena (who also has an Owl Fylgjur like you, incidentally) among the Greeks was the Goddess of Victory and Wisdom. It is not the sword wielded by Abjorn or Steinarr or Gabriel, fury in the heat of battle, bloodlust and rage, bloody instinct carving muscle apart from bone.

An Atgeir in contrast, represents forethought in battle. It is risks taken and risks forgone. Steps carefully and deftfully walked to victory. You've seen or rather know two fundamental tricks of the Atgeir already. Your brother Eric has one trick that extends the reach of a spear. Your friend Audrikr has one that exploits the movement of his enemy. That's the nature of the Atgeir. Tricky and thinking. Think about it, huh, would you?
 
[X] +1 to attaining true understanding of the Atgeir
[X] A dangling plot thread from me, Imperial Fister

All I can say is Gabriel OP.
 
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