NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

CedeTheBees · May 3, 2023

[X][Name] Hallbjorn

I.F. Ister · May 3, 2023

Alectai said:
BTW, did our Odr gain get resolved before or after our Aspects got locked up? Like, has our income dropped after this or is it being treated like we haven't actually committed a big chunk of our pool?

Odr gain is always resolved first.

However, your odr gain will drop to 4 next turn, depending on how much orthstirr you get from this fight.

As for The Enemy's trap... it was that you weren't warned in anything other than broad scope that 'hey, this is, more or less, permanent. Be careful how much you put in.' It's an exceptionally petty move, but that is what The Enemy is.

Alectai · May 3, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
Odr gain is always resolved first.

However, your odr gain will drop to 4 next turn, depending on how much orthstirr you get from this fight.

As for The Enemy's trap... it was that you weren't warned in anything other than broad scope that 'hey, this is, more or less, permanent. Be careful how much you put in.' It's an exceptionally petty move, but that is what The Enemy is.

Mm, not permanent, but a pain in the ass to work with. What, is this just straight-up one-way unless you've got the Clothes Making Trick?

Still, "Petty", good to know. This was a good mistake to make in that it's reversable, and mostly just a pain in the ass rather than something crippling. It gives us good insight into the Enemy's logic as well.

Notably, it also confirms a theory that I've had in that The Enemy can respond to Cultivation, but can't actually directly interfere with it. They attack through controlling information. The Landmines are probably put down in places where Cultivation intersects with the Outside World. Like how we almost died with our initial breakthrough when we opened the Gate because for some reason, Halla thought to do it out in the middle of nowhere rather than in the Farm.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 3, 2023

Alectai said:
Mm, not permanent, but a pain in the ass to work with. What, is this just straight-up one-way unless you've got the Clothes Making Trick?

Still, "Petty", good to know. This was a good mistake to make in that it's reversable, and mostly just a pain in the ass rather than something crippling. It gives us good insight into the Enemy's logic as well.

It also actually may be good we did it now because we might never have realized it could store Frenzy if we already had a Fast when we did it.

Frenzy is physical, so that makes sense on one level...but so is orthstirr itself. I really want to try storing Orthstirr in the Pockets next turn and see what happens. Probably, they don't store enough to be worth it (making one is effectively 20 Orthstirr and I doubt they hold that much), but it seems an interesting experiment.

Alectai said:
Notably, it also confirms a theory that I've had in that The Enemy can respond to Cultivation, but can't actually directly interfere with it. They attack through controlling information. The Landmines are probably put down in places where Cultivation intersects with the Outside World. Like how we almost died with our initial breakthrough when we opened the Gate because for some reason, Halla thought to do it out in the middle of nowhere rather than in the Farm.

We did that precisely because we thought it might be dangerous, too. Like, the lack of information in and of itself is what made us do it that way.

Alectai · May 3, 2023

So yeah, the Traps will mostly come in the form of Unconscious Expectations that lead Halla to make poor moves, like how we ended up accidentally committing way more of our Orthstirr pool than we needed to here.

The Landmines though are in places where Cultivation intersects with the Outside World.

That aside, it's good to get a chance to face the Foemen outside of an Overwhelming Response. Because if we can tease out their weaknesses, we can prepare a battleground for our Big Reveal that gives us an advantage.

Realistically speaking too, there's nothing actually obligating us to fight to the death either. Not against Monsters, Sten certainly was allowed to withdraw when the Troll ripped off his arm. Of course, it might actually be that way and he was just willing to eat the Odreng/Nid involved because it was better than dying in an unnecessary battle when he could come back for another go later.

wrecksalot · May 3, 2023

I wonder if its one Fury per infusion rank or one Fury per Odr infused into Hugr. That would be a mean trick if someone was all ready to deal with two Fury or 3 Fury and end up with 9, therefore probably going nuts.

KreenWarrior · May 3, 2023

Okay, so the first Realm requires a lot of use of the "womanly arts" of weaving/nalbinding.

I wonder if a later realm will involve smithing?

Alectai · May 3, 2023

KreenWarrior said:
Okay, so the first Realm requires a lot of use of the "womanly art" of weaving.

I wonder if a later realm will involve smithing?

On the contrary, the 'Weaving' part is only involved with Pockets, which I suspect is going to be something that interacts with Seidr very nicely down the line. (I had the idea that they could be used to store completed spells in advance so you can just release them when the time is right, which massively increases the viability of Seidr as a style)

But everyone is a Cultivator, so everyone has to do the land stuff.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 3, 2023

wrecksalot said:
I wonder if its one Fury per infusion rank or one Fury per Odr infused into Hugr. That would be a mean trick if someone was all ready to deal with two Fury or 3 Fury and end up with 9, therefore probably going nuts.

It'd be 7 going from Invested Hugr 0 to 3 all at once, but yeah, that's a possibility. Luckily, we have plenty to store 3 Frenzy and we're only gonna invest 2 Odr next round, so that's the most we'd wind up with.

That said, I suspect that would get too powerful too quickly. But I could be wrong.

Alectai said:
On the contrary, the 'Weaving' part is only involved with Pockets, which I suspect is going to be something that interacts with Seidr very nicely down the line.

But everyone is a Cultivator, so everyone has to do the land stuff.

No, gathering Odr itself is also weaving. It's as integral to the process as farming.

Alectai · May 3, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
It'd be 7, but yeah, that's a possibility. Luckily, we have plenty to store 3 Frenzy and we're only gonna invest 2 Odr next round, so that's the most we'd wind up with.

No, gathering Odr itself is also weaving. It's as integral to the process as farming.

I was of the impression that the Virthing and the Saemd just took the right form, and introducing Frami causes it to come together and Open the Gate. Trying to just stitch it together just has it unravel.

KreenWarrior · May 3, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
Virthing and saemd quickly return to their woven glory as they wrap around body and soul in turn. They sit there, waiting patiently for what you suspect to be frami.

Slowly, ever so slowly, you stoke your frami and erupt into crimson flames as you carefully guide it down into your barren, empty soul.

Swallowing a gulp, you allow its fire to touch the woven length o-

Imperial Fister said:
'The Gate. It opened when your frami touched the woven strand and through it flowed odr. After some time, the thread began to unravel and... well,'

We weave them together and then add frami to open the Gate.

Imaninjah93 · May 3, 2023