I.F. Ister
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At the same time, to the people they were raiding, even!
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
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- norse mythology original xianxia cultivation western cultivation ask sirihand did your mother tell you anything? discussion pleases yggdrasil farming gloating gets people killed granary management hubris is a coward's word no seriously you will die norsemen do not die when they are killed the qm has a bad memory the qm is bad at math try not to die viking courtroom drama (legal drama) vikings you will die
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Would it be possible for us to buy/build a boat and then hire a crew for it? Is it just a question of money? Or would we need to be a Jarl to do that.
I.F. Ister
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That's what a lot of 'high-stakes-poker raids' were. You can get any number of random bozos and doofuses, but the good warriors are gonna be naturally inclined towards serving under Jarls, as they have the best opportunities available to them
Yeah I can't rotate "take Gabriel's fiance as a slave" into a feels-good story in my head, I'm afraid.
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Got it. So either we somehow gain enough reputation to outshine a Jarl, or we become a one-woman raiding party.
How does one get to be a Jarl? What exactly does the term mean?
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I mean, even without a particularly notable reputation I suspect we can get together a decent group for a trading expedition. Halla, Abjorn, Sten, Gabriel (if trading instead of raiding), Stigandr, maybe one of Halfdan's sons...we can get some folks together on personal connection alone. If we make friends with any of the members of this raiding crew (which we definitely are interested in), we could maybe recruit a couple of them as well (Stigandr's brother is a possibility even if we don't wind up super close with him).
That's not quite as big as the group we're currently part of, but it's getting there and we probably don't need quite as many people for a trading expedition as we do for a raid. And honestly, I suspect that our reputation will actually be decent as well if we do well on this raid. Maybe not full-on Jarl level, but pretty solid.
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Yeah, skip that. Raiding itself just doesn't fit "feel good story".
But in Wessex we speak the language, means we could trade with our loot on later days. (What is us not defiling a bunch of bibles worth to them? What are knight armors worth to them? What is us not taking this thrall worth to them?)
Could turn big bulky goods into much smaller, lighter, gold coins.
Yeah Wessex is not my vote, Wessex is a high risk high reward loot run, longer trip but we can read/speak the language, which would make identifying storehouses or overhearing plans to hide relics and such possible
Denmark is a high risk high reward loot run, all the loot will be in the Norse system and thus usable right away but the victims are the most able and likely to track us down for revenge on us, or track our children down for revenge on for their ancestors.
Lotharingia has less risk but the loot is the least likely to be amazing. This isnt an issue because we have a husband and the loot is split equally between all members so we get double loot anyways.
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Honestly, I thought we were allied with Denmark or something. I was pretty surprised when it was listed as an available raid.
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I'm pretty sure many Norsemen would raid other spots even within the same kingdom if they thought they could get away with it (as long as they didn't have kin there or something). Raiding is armed robbery by private citizens to enrich themselves, not a foreign policy decision.
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Yeah, I knew it'd happen, but I thought that was Outlaw shit. Not something that an innocent (as in, someone that isn't an Outlaw) would do.
I.F. Ister
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By right of birth.
The english translation of 'Jarl' is 'Earl', but I don't like how that reads so I don't use it. A Jarl is, at the most basic definition, someone who leads. Someone who rules. Jarls, no matter what, always end up in some kind of position of authority simply by virtue of the fact that people are inclined to follow them. A young Jarl will either climb the ranks, establish new lands, or they will die.
The reasons for this all stem from one thing; the fact that Jarls can give out orthstirr. This means that if you know a Jarl rising star, and you get in good with them, then you'll reap the rewards as they skyrocket. Jarls, by virtue of their birth, have broader access to opportunities, which means that they get stronger faster than Karls typically do.
You are not. I'll have to make a map or something showing the various different kingdoms around you. Oh boy, I even have some nice, big, gridded paper!
Likely not the same kingdom, as raiding at home is nid.
The bandits that have shown up in story are all from places like Rogaland, Geirstadt, and Vestfold.
King-led raids are foreign policy decisions. Raiding was sometimes used as a form of terrorism called "Power Raiding", to weaken and destabilize rivals. Power Raids were brutal and bloody affairs but there were not the majority of raids.
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I.F. Ister
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I'll call voting in an hour-and-a-half, so get your votes in while you can!
Also, since my connection is being really slow right now and I can't do it myself in a timely manner, if someone could please tally up the reward dice people are using on things that would be very helpful.
Also, since my connection is being really slow right now and I can't do it myself in a timely manner, if someone could please tally up the reward dice people are using on things that would be very helpful.
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I believe on this upcoming turn it's just Constenanto putting 1 Reward Die into Ember-Winged Cloak, and CedeTheBees putting 3 Reward Dice into Reinforce Shield.
I.F. Ister
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To add on to this, you are about level with the expected strength of the average 16-year-old Jarl.
Also, there are ways to become a Jarl without being born one, but knowledge of how isn't widespread
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This seems like something the original Hallr would've known. Given his fragmentation the part of him we have might not, though.
Alectai
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Huh, no wonder the guy was all "I am recruiting you, please do not resist"
Having someone about as strong as you are is a massive boon for the ambitious, especially when they're not threatening your position, partly because Halla isn't interested in leading and partly because being a woman means she'd have an uphill battle to be in charge anyway. She just wants to get stuck in every once in a while, which he can appreciate since it's good for him too--the glory of your followers is also glory for the Jarl after all.
That he also gets Abjorn as part of the package deal is just icing on the cake. Mister "I have 8 Hamr at the age of 17 and wrestled three draugr with my bear hands to get my wedding gift".
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How strong is Folkmarr?
I.F. Ister
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You'll have to spar with him to really get an understanding, but from wrestling you know that he's stronger than you, weaker than Abjorn.
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Yeah, this tracks. I will say that Abjorn is probably only a bit behind us in terms of orthstirr (he was actually there and an active participant for most of our orthstirr gaining experiences aside from the nisse and the draugr we fought...and he apparently fought three draugr in there). I suspect he was actually really close to on par before the Raid Trials (I would've guessed in the vicinity of the mid 50s or so)...but I'm also pretty sure he got less than we did from that event. So I'm thinking somewhere in the vicinity of 70 or so for his orthstirr...still well above average.
He's a Jarl of about our age, so probably on par with us or perhaps a bit better than that, based on the average Jarl our age being around on par.
Hamr 6-7 then, that tracks. About what I'd expect under the circumstances.
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Alectai
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Yeah, I think the trade-off we got is "It's harder to prove your worth, but that much more noteworthy when you do", right?
And given that Halla's apparently got the stat-block of a young Jarl, that's significant. FolkmarrQuest must have been dancing in the streets at basically nailing a Hero Level Subordinate who comes with a Hero Level hubby and isn't actually a potential threat for power struggles--it'd only be better if she was single.
(Haha, Folkmarr was one of the Husbando Candidates, wasn't he?)
And given that Halla's apparently got the stat-block of a young Jarl, that's significant. FolkmarrQuest must have been dancing in the streets at basically nailing a Hero Level Subordinate who comes with a Hero Level hubby and isn't actually a potential threat for power struggles--it'd only be better if she was single.
(Haha, Folkmarr was one of the Husbando Candidates, wasn't he?)
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I.F. Ister
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Ha, that's an awesome idea. I love it
Indeed he is.
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FolkmarrQuest must've gotten a nat 100 or something. A shame for them that we're already married.