I mean we could just marry our children to him, Baelon is a sociopath but he is also a genius and as such should be able to recognize the value that such a marriage has
I am VERY disinclined to marry our Children to a Sociopath. That is all I will say on that matter.
Plus, that alone may not be enough. He could easily decide to marry one or more of our daughters and then still kill us and Rhaenyra off.
I am VERY disinclined to marry our Children to a Sociopath. That is all I will say on that matter.
Plus, that alone may not be enough. He could easily decide to marry one or more of our daughters and then still kill us and Rhaenyra off.
TBH, I don't really think that he will make a move against us in a very long time... Besides the main line of the Targaryen there are other four branches (Stepstones, Driftmark, Runestone, and Blackfyre) all of them rich and in possession of several Dragons and in the case of any attack on Lucien he will get immediately backed out by Driftmark and Runestone...
As much a sociopath as he may be he will also be a genius, and no matter how you look at it, starting beef with the branches will make the other branches (except the Blackfyres) join immediately against him.
The Twins and the Triplets, are fraternal or identical? Have you already thought about the names of their Dragons? How big those dragons are now?
Is there any chance that we end up in a "Sherlock Scenario" with Baelon (high functioning Sociopath who is extremely intelligent and totally uninterested in anything beyond their chosen field of expertise, including the throne), which would probably be uninterested in killing Lucien?
Once we are settled in the Stepstones, any chance that we can start to actively seek our long-lost sister Gael?
What will be the next update? Realm Rumor Mill? Beginning of the next turn? Interlude about settling up in the stepstones?
Having a Volcano for themselves, are Syrax and Grey Ghost going to grow at a higher rate?
Since Daemon is going AWOL, I suppose that the governance of the Stepstones will be decided by flipping a coin between Lucien and his Father, no?
Is there any chance that we end up in a "Sherlock Scenario" with Baelon (high functioning Sociopath who is extremely intelligent and totally uninterested in anything beyond their chosen field of expertise, including the throne), which would probably be uninterested in killing Lucien?
And what about Rhaenys, Corlys and their line? I mean even the Blackfyre have a claim (they are the twenty something in the line of succession, but they still are)
Any chance with the Genius trit and all that that he realizes that neither Daemon, Lucien, or Rhaenys, doesn't want the throne and the wisest thing to do will be not to move against them?
Well, having children will probably mean a reduction in our insane sex life, but that doesn't have to mean a reduction in the number of new children...
But I am guessing that we will have at most 3-5 children with each bride, if only because I don't think that you will want to have so many character sheets to deal with.
What was Savage doing in the Citadel Cells? Checking how long it would take him to break free?
Besides that @Magoose what is the surname of our Dad and our siblings? IIRC Valarr and, by extension his kids, were named nobles when he became Admiral...
And what about Rhaenys, Corlys and their line? I mean even the Blackfyre have a claim (they are the twenty something in the line of succession, but they still are)
Any chance with the Genius trit and all that that he realizes that neither Daemon, Lucien, or Rhaenys, doesn't want the throne and the wisest thing to do will be not to move against them?
Well, having children will probably mean a reduction in our insane sex life, but that doesn't have to mean a reduction in the number of new children...
Lets just say, unless any of our wives have a scary birth, and they feel they are up for it. They will be having sex with us, and they will be having more kids.
But I am guessing that we will have at most 3-5 children with each bride, if only because I don't think that you will want to have so many character sheets to deal with.
Besides that @Magoose what is the surname of our Dad and our siblings? IIRC Valarr and, by extension his kids, were named nobles when he became Admiral...
I am VERY disinclined to marry our Children to a Sociopath. That is all I will say on that matter.
Plus, that alone may not be enough. He could easily decide to marry one or more of our daughters and then still kill us and Rhaenyra off.
While I totally agree with this, we need to have a good IC reason to avoid that wedding...
The knowledge that Baelon is a sociopath that going to cause trouble for us down the line is totally OOC, and joining the main branches of the Targaryens seems like something logical and convenient...
While I totally agree with this, we need to have a good IC reason to do this...
The knowledge that Baelon is a sociopath that going to cause trouble for us down the line is totally OOC, and joining the main branches of the Targaryens seems like something logical and convenient...
Anyway we better hope the Great Houses start giving birth to Daugthers sooner or later because if not we will praticaly be the only possible options of marriage for Baby Baelon.
By the way, one way to get out of this is to push Baby Baelon and Viserys opnion towards one of the Four Storms, and have one of them (The Storms) marry one of our future/current sons forming a alliance wihout sacrificating our children to a psycho. Because refusing a Royal Marriage its not a simple matter.
Edit: Speaking of Great Houses @Magoose how is the situation of House Stark? We still need that Sword. Also can we have a scene with our marriage to Laena as a special social turn? We didnt get to see Lucien marriage to Nyra and Alicent...
Anyway we better hope the Great Houses start giving birth to Daugthers sooner or later because if not we will praticaly be one of the only one possible options of marriage for Baby Baelon.
By the way, one way to get out of this is to push Baby Baelon and Viserys towards one of the Four Storms, and have one of them marry one of our future/current sons forming a alliance wihout sacrificating our children to a psycho. Because refusing a Royal Marriage its not a simple matter.
Well, you seem to have forgotten one of the best marriages available for Baelon (and probably the worst for us)... If Viserys marries the prince with the youngest of the Martel Princesses, he could do the Daemon the Good thingy and take Dorne into the fold 100 years before canon.
And to get out of the situation in a pinch, we can always take the easy and disgusting way out and get our children engaged to each other Targaryen Style...
Edit: Speaking of Great Houses @Magoose how is the situation of House Stark? We still need that Sword. Also can we have a scene with our marriage to Laena as a special social turn? We didnt get to see Lucien marriage to Nyra and Alicent...
Well, you seem to have forgotten one of the best marriages available for Baelon (and probably the worst for us)... If Viserys marries the prince with the youngest of the Martel Princesses, he could do the Daemon the Good thingy and take Dorne into the fold 100 years before canon.
And to get out of the situation in a pinch, we can always take the easy and disgusting way out and get our children engaged to each other Targaryen Style...
If Viserys marries the prince with the youngest of the Martel Princesses, he could do the Daemon the Good thingy and take Dorne into the fold 100 years before canon.
We have to balance things out... At least add some new blood one of every two generations, and try to limit the marriage with Valyrian blooded cousins instead of siblings...
And even if both siblings are in love with each other, before agreeing to anything we should have a very serious conversation with both of them about: ARE YOU REALLY SURE THAT YOU WANT TO FUCK YOUR SISTER/BROTHER?
And even then, before agreeing to anything we should have a very serious conversation with both of them about: ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO FUCK YOUR SISTER/BROTHER?
Okay Freehold result is winning currently not counting with @wolfemaster01 vote since it isnt spelled correctly so I suggest you fix it if you want your vote talled properly, wolfemaster.
Edit: Notes that since Daemon walked away to Essos, the toss up result if Dominion isnt chosen is between Lucien and Valar.
Adhoc vote count started by Ghost in the sun on Dec 8, 2022 at 4:43 PM, finished with 173 posts and 21 votes.
[X]Plan: A Freehold Once More
-[X]Dominion of the Stepstones: While Viserys might choose someone else to rule, you want to make sure that it is you. You wish to rule. And you shall. (Gain the Stepstones and are the Prince of the Stepstones. With all the problems and privileges that it has) (Note: If this is not chosen, there will be a d3 rolled, between Daemon, Valaar, or you, to get control of the Stepstones)
-[X]The Colonization for a People: The Valyrian Diaspora was mitigated with Aegon's conquest, but many find that the land of Westeros, is foreign, and not for them. This will be a new home. Perhaps not a Valyria. But it will be a place for them to come.
-[X] Daughter's name: Daenys
-[X] Son's name: Aeron
[X]Plan: A Free Haven
-[X]Religious Exceptionalism: While Freedom of Cult is the law of the lands of Westeros, you wish to have the Valyrian faith have a safe haven for their belief, one that was never allowed outside of a few places in Westeros. (this will make the Valyrian faith legal in the Stepstones, instead of tolerated as decreed by Westerosi law. Keep that in mind).
-[X]The Colonization for a People: The Valyrian Diaspora was mitigated with Aegon's conquest, but many find that the land of Westeros, is foreign, and not for them. This will be a new home. Perhaps not a Valyria. But it will be a place for them to come.
-[X] Daughter's name: Daenys
-[X] Son's name: Aeron
[X] Plan: To get some land and get a new castle
-[X]Dominion of the Stepstones: While Viserys might choose someone else to rule, you want to make sure that it is you. You wish to rule. And you shall. (Gain the Stepstones and are the Prince of the Stepstones. With all the problems and privileges that it has) (Note: If this is not chosen, there will be a d3 rolled, between Daemon, Valaar, or you, to get control of the Stepstones)
-[X]To Build a New Keep: You want the Crown to pay for the repairs for the Keep, or rather, to destroy the old one, and build you a new one. (Place the Image for what you want it to look like in a spoiler below this vote)
-[X] Daughter's name: Daenys
-[X] Son's name: Aeron
Okay Freehold result is winning currently not counting with @wolfemaster01 vote since it isnt spelled correctly so I suggest you fix it if you want your vote talled properly, wolfemaster.
Edit: Notes that since Daemon walked away to Essos, the toss up result if Dominion isnt chosen is between Lucien and Valar.
Adhoc vote count started by Ghost in the sun on Dec 8, 2022 at 4:43 PM, finished with 173 posts and 21 votes.
[X]Plan: A Freehold Once More
-[X]Dominion of the Stepstones: While Viserys might choose someone else to rule, you want to make sure that it is you. You wish to rule. And you shall. (Gain the Stepstones and are the Prince of the Stepstones. With all the problems and privileges that it has) (Note: If this is not chosen, there will be a d3 rolled, between Daemon, Valaar, or you, to get control of the Stepstones)
-[X]The Colonization for a People: The Valyrian Diaspora was mitigated with Aegon's conquest, but many find that the land of Westeros, is foreign, and not for them. This will be a new home. Perhaps not a Valyria. But it will be a place for them to come.
-[X] Daughter's name: Daenys
-[X] Son's name: Aeron
[X]Plan: A Free Haven
-[X]Religious Exceptionalism: While Freedom of Cult is the law of the lands of Westeros, you wish to have the Valyrian faith have a safe haven for their belief, one that was never allowed outside of a few places in Westeros. (this will make the Valyrian faith legal in the Stepstones, instead of tolerated as decreed by Westerosi law. Keep that in mind).
-[X]The Colonization for a People: The Valyrian Diaspora was mitigated with Aegon's conquest, but many find that the land of Westeros, is foreign, and not for them. This will be a new home. Perhaps not a Valyria. But it will be a place for them to come.
-[X] Daughter's name: Daenys
-[X] Son's name: Aeron
[X] Plan: To get some land and get a new castle
-[X]Dominion of the Stepstones: While Viserys might choose someone else to rule, you want to make sure that it is you. You wish to rule. And you shall. (Gain the Stepstones and are the Prince of the Stepstones. With all the problems and privileges that it has) (Note: If this is not chosen, there will be a d3 rolled, between Daemon, Valaar, or you, to get control of the Stepstones)
-[X]To Build a New Keep: You want the Crown to pay for the repairs for the Keep, or rather, to destroy the old one, and build you a new one. (Place the Image for what you want it to look like in a spoiler below this vote)
-[X] Daughter's name: Daenys
-[X] Son's name: Aeron
