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I know we're not using End Times stuff, but since there's nothing else stating as to what happened to Valaya, here it is.
I'd expect she's in the Glittering Realm, same as the rest of the Ancestor Gods.

I really doubt that Boney will be going with what the End Times came up with.

(Side-note; was the only purpose of that whole bit with Valaya actually still being around to give one hell of kick in the nuts to Dwarfs and Dwarf fans by having Nagash eat her?)
 
With the rules of the Grey Order as written, Apprentices, Journeywomen and Magister can be given assignments by their superiors. Including undercover assignments they won't like.
Is that from Realms of Sorcery? Does it have any special rules that Jades or Celestials must follow? Golds I guess are hampered more by reagent cost than special rules.
ISWYDT.
As far as ensuring Eike gets Lord Magister tuition, it is possible to ensure that she gets it even if she goes outside of the grey. It's 10CF a turn, though.
This shouldn't necessarily be an ongoing expenditure of that cost. Pushing an LM to take a look at her and accept her as apprentice should cost quite a lot more actually, but once the LM agrees, Eike is his/her apprentice and it's not Mathilde deciding the lesson plan on a regular basis while the LM just dispassionately does the job without gaining anything.
 
Is that from Realms of Sorcery? Does it have any special rules that Jades or Celestials must follow? Golds I guess are hampered more by reagent cost than special rules.
I think they are referring to the first article:
The first obedience of every Magister must be to the ideals and laws of Sigmar's Holy Empire of which these Articles form a part; then to he who is rightfully elected Emperor of Sigmar's Holy Empire; then to the Supreme Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic; then to the laws and ideals of their Order; then to the Patriarch of their Order; then to the authorities that each Magister may be required to serve in the course of his duties; then to other superiors within their Orders.
 
I think they are referring to the first article:
The first obedience of every Magister must be to the ideals and laws of Sigmar's Holy Empire of which these Articles form a part; then to he who is rightfully elected Emperor of Sigmar's Holy Empire; then to the Supreme Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic; then to the laws and ideals of their Order; then to the Patriarch of their Order; then to the authorities that each Magister may be required to serve in the course of his duties; then to other superiors within their Orders.
But they said " With the rules of the Grey Order as written". I thought that that implies that this is a drawback that the other Orders don't share.
 
With the rules of the Grey Order as written, Apprentices, Journeywomen and Magister can be given assignments by their superiors. Including undercover assignments they won't like.

Even though the Orders technically have the authority to give Wizards arbitrary assignments with absolutely no thought given to their willingness, they aren't stupid enough to make that their SOP. The Grey Order does actively discourage idleness in its Wizards, but it goes out of its way to find a way to make Wizards useful in a way that doesn't aggravate them, and if a Wizard is already making themselves useful they're not gonna Kramer in and say TIME TO GO UNDERCOVER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!

How long were the dwarves and elves allies?

2,122 years, from Snorri and Malekith joining forces to hunt down Chaos armies to the start of the War of the Beard.
 
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Even though the Orders technically have the authority to give Wizards arbitrary assignments with absolutely no thought given to their willingness, they aren't stupid enough to make that their SOP. The Grey Order does actively discourage idleness in its Wizards, but it goes out of its way to find a way to make Wizards useful in a way that doesn't aggravate them, and if a Wizard is already making themselves useful they're not gonna Kramer in and say TIME TO GO UNDERCOVER WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
Or in simple terms: they have the authority, and will use it when needed, but prefer to not be draconian about it.
 
Come to think of it, we do need to gather as many varied viewpoints and experiences as possible on the Waystones project...

Do you think we could headhunt Alkharad from our shelf? I think he'd find it to be an interesting project to work on, tickle his intellectual brain a little. Maybe if we supply him with some puzzles and a few expendable things to entertain himself with when off the job?

So, I know this is tongue in cheek but um... we do have a super prison currently occupied by a creature with an incredibly short maximum lifespan.

...what would it take to build a prison that could "safely" house a vampire?
 
Especially when you consider that we know for a fact that Alkharad could project his presence over long distances and selectively control his undead without being nearby.
 
Another Life, Part 2
Another Life
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Gabriella smiled winningly at Abelhelm's man as he and his escort dismounted. Of all the opportunities to come of this con, she hadn't expected to be hosting negotiations between a representative of Stirland and a student of a vampire. Mathilde reached out through her for some reason, though, and it seemed that the promise of released prisoners in exchange for simply attending the meeting had been enough to entice even a former Witch Hunter. The hints she'd already received from the necromancer were already enough to have her invested in the meeting working out, though.

"Baron Anton Kiesinger the second, welcome to Nachthafen. I do hope your trip was a pleasant one?"

The boy nodded at that, a bright smile on his face that was, surprisingly, genuine. "The scenery was a bit bleak, but the journey itself was exciting. We almost got attacked by ghouls, but a wandering bear of all things intercepted them. Is that normal?"

Gabriella allowed her confusion to slip through a bit. The bear was almost certainly Mathilde's handiwork, but to send someone so guileless to negotiate with- Oh, this was going to be some sort of entertaining. Behind her back, she crossed her fingers and prayed for a comedy. "Wandering undead of various types aren't unheard of, nor are wild animals. This is the first time I've heard of such a clash being witnessed, though."

"Really! Something to tell the folks back home about, then." The Baron Kiesinger nodded in apparent satisfaction at that before he handed his horse off to one of the servants. It didn't take long after that for his eyes to fall on the beast that Mathilde had ridden in on. "Oh, wow! I hope that that's what the necromancer from Teufelheim came in on."

The creature in question was clearly intended to resemble a griffin, at least within the loose framework of a land predator with parts from an aerial predator. It had the body of a wolf that was the size of a pony, though, with massive bat wings for flight. If there were anything to the muzzle but exposed bone and a hanging tongue, Gabriella would think it was still alive.

"She flew in while providing her charges with an eye in the sky, to catch trouble before it approached." Considering the risks of losing even a single one of her entourage to the dangers of Sylvania, Gabriella appreciated the precautions Mathilde had taken. Left nothing to luck, although she suspected her old friend would be sympathetic to the necromancer in this particular case. "She called it her puppy."

"Sounds like she has a sense of humor, then." Anton let his smile slip back a bit, and Gabriella mentally applauded his optimism. He frowned after a moment, though, and he looked to her in confusion. "Is that a good thing or a bad thing? With necromancers, that is."

"It varies, but you lucked out with Mathilde." Gabriella gestured for the Baron and his men to follow her inside. Delightful as the girl was, Gabriella could only keep her distracted from exploring the castle for so long. "She's more social than the typical necromancer. So long as you can look past her love of mischief and dark magic, you'll get along splendidly."

"Mischief and black magic? I suppose I'm already meeting her halfway geographically." Gabriella blinked and looked back at the Elector Count's diplomat, who continued to be the picture of innocence. How he managed to avoid coming off as smug, she'd have to figure out. "Speaking of meeting someone halfway-"

"Oh, if you'd arrived during daylight hours, I wouldn't have been able to come out." Gabriella smirked as she heard shoulders stiffen at that declaration. The Baron's escort might not be as permissive as the conspiracy's plant, though. "Too much needs to be done before sunset, for obvious reasons. I don't know how much experience you have with the other Sylvanian nobility, but entirely too many of them have forgotten how to really live."

The Baron walked alongside her, nodding thoughtfully. "Really? I heard that they were all sanguine to a fault."

She looked, and he'd done that smile again. Oh, this one was entirely too much fun. Gabriella found herself setting him up for more jokes as they proceeded to the hall where she had Mathilde waiting. As her guards - militia in scavenged armor - opened the doors for them, she was greeted with the sight of the small black-robed woman grinning with enthusiasm as she gestured excitedly with her staff while addressing her audience, a mixed group of captured Stirlanders and children.

"The cut hurt a little bit, but the scent of blood drew the daemon away from the merchant... and right into my ghosts!" A swing of the staff caused the children to shriek and cheer, and Mathilde basked in their excitement long enough to take note of Gabriella's arrival. Nodding in acknowledgement, she brought a staff of warped ivory to the floor with three loud taps to cut short the cheering. "The ghosts quickly overwhelmed the daemon, and just what I told that reckless merchant will have to wait until my meeting is done. Gentlemen, I believe that your escort home has arrived?"

The children groaned, but the men who'd been standing behind them quickly made their way toward the door Gabriella had just come in through. The apparent captain of Anton's escort moved ahead to greet them, his gaze never leaving the necromancer who was currently meandering away from the children. Anton himself, the dear, proved ready to take Mathilde's surprise in stride. "Mathilde Weber, right? I'm torn between asking why you brought so many children to the meeting and asking how a daemon got unleashed on that poor merchant in the first place."

Mathilde smiled at that, glancing toward the children. "Who wants to tell him? Johann?"

A boy who'd raised his hand spoke up. "He was out traveling while both moons were full."

"Sounds like you gave him a lesson that the children would benefit from hearing, then!" Anton turned toward Gabriella, looking at her expectantly, "The meeting can wait a bit, can't it?"

"Baron, I must recommend against delaying-" Any further words from the captain were drowned out by the jeers and complaints of the children, saving Gabriella from having to endure what would have otherwise been an inevitable cacophony of pleading.

Three strikes of the staff on the ground calmed the children, or at least quieted them. Gabriella looked toward Mathilde expectantly, but the younger woman was mirroring her expression. "I believe it was our kind host that the Baron asked to weigh in on whether or not the story would continue."

She could already hear the inhalations in preparation to shout and plead. "Who am I to refuse?"

The children cheered, and Gabriella found herself moving behind the children as Mathilde threw herself back into her performance. It didn't take long to figure out that the story was an act, if not entirely fictional. A way of communicating the dangers of the green moon's power to young minds in a way they'd be happy to remember. When the story was done, she and Anton were applauding along with the children.

As the children began to settle down, Gabriella gestured for waiting servants to tend to their supervision before guiding Anton and Mathilde to an area of the hall where the former's guards could be properly alert, while still keeping things out of earshot of the children. "I do hope, Mathilde dear, that you'll finally tell me the reason you brought all of these children halfway across Sylvania."

Mathilde sighed, looking from one noble to the other. "That gets into the 'what we want' half of the negotiations. Teufelheim is currently suffering from sustained attacks from a particularly problematic necromancer, and I was hoping that either Nachthafen or Stirland could shelter them until the danger could be dealt with properly."

"I'm sorry," Anton held up a finger, "I thought vampires usually win against necromancers. Is your master not in residence, or...?"

"Emphasis on the usually, Anton dear." Gabriella sighed the words out. Mathilde making a point of mentioning how problematic the necromancer was meant that this was someone who'd gathered enough power to themselves that they could match a vampire, or even exceed them if they attacked from an angle that didn't play to their strengths. Alkharad was a Necrarch if she remembered right, so a militant necromancer of sufficient power would have an edge. "Although I'm curious as to why the children are in danger in particular."

Something flashed in Mathilde's eyes. Nothing magical, or at least not obviously so, but there was a sense of danger about her now. "Because that pretender is only interested in getting my master's research. He's refusing, because she's already indebted to him. So, she's lashing out at everything of his that she can. He..."

The anger left her eyes, then, drowned in sorrow and disappointment. "My master has prioritized the defense of his assets that are of immediate use. So, I'm evacuating those that aren't. Extra mouths to feed that won't serve."

Anton furrowed his brow, considering the necromancer's words. "I'm sorry, I think I might be confused. Are you a representative of your master, or refugees from his land?"

...Oh, Gabriella had to give the boy credit. Diplomacy involved talking around matters so often, most weren't prepared for reality being thrown in their face. Mathilde, it seemed, was no exception. One could almost see the girl stopping herself from screaming over her newfound identity crisis.

After a tense moment, though, her free hand began popping belt pouches, unleashing rat skeletons that began rapidly opening the remaining pouches. In one, Gabriella noticed a distinct purple glow, and that was the pouch that drew Mathilde's eye. She counted the contents, looked up, then nodded. "Alkharad, the Necrarch who reigns over Teufelheim, has been running a College of Necromancy for years, one with over a hundred students."
 
So, I know this is tongue in cheek but um... we do have a super prison currently occupied by a creature with an incredibly short maximum lifespan.

...what would it take to build a prison that could "safely" house a vampire?

You would need some way to isolate them from magic. Something like our dwarf anti-magic room but stronger. Of course you would also starve them if you did that.
 
The boy nodded at that, a bright smile on his face that was, surprisingly, genuine. "The scenery was a bit bleak, but the journey itself was exciting. We almost got attacked by ghouls, but a wandering bear of all things intercepted them. Is that normal?"
"That is most unusual, a bear? Here? I will have to look into it, something that dangerous can't be left to roam around."
 
Anton you've clearly lost it, that was the Noble Sir Bearington of Stirland. A bear of a man perhaps, but not a literal one. Isn't that right Sir Bearington?

*AFFRIMATIVE GROWLING*
 
...Oh, Gabriella had to give the boy credit. Diplomacy involved talking around matters so often, most weren't prepared for reality being thrown in their face. Mathilde, it seemed, was no exception. One could almost see the girl stopping herself from screaming over her newfound identity crisis.

After a tense moment, though, her free hand began popping belt pouches, unleashing rat skeletons that began rapidly opening the remaining pouches. In one, Gabriella noticed a distinct purple glow, and that was the pouch that drew Mathilde's eye. She counted the contents, looked up, then nodded. "Alkharad, the Necrarch who reigns over Teufelheim, has been running a College of Necromancy for years, one with over a hundred students."
...Okay, I'm a little bit lost. What's with the pouches and what exactly just happened? Is this Mathilde deciding to betray Alkharad?

And if so, I wonder what that means for her. She can't be trying to go good, but... maybe she'll plan to eventually take over Sylvania as a less hostile neighbor? Or something. I could see this version of Mathilde doing the whole "conquer for your own good" thing.
 
...Okay, I'm a little bit lost. What's with the pouches and what exactly just happened? Is this Mathilde deciding to betray Alkharad?

And if so, I wonder what that means for her. She can't be trying to go good, but... maybe she'll plan to eventually take over Sylvania as a less hostile neighbor? Or something. I could see this version of Mathilde doing the whole "conquer for your own good" thing.
I'm not quite sure either. If this was was an AU quest then I wouldn't expect alternate SV to just throw the Black College away in the hopes that the Empire will be just forceful enough to wipe out Alkharad but not her or her interests. Especially if she wants Sylvania for herself eventually.
I assume this is an "Anton critted at Diplo" moment, but I still have a hard time making sense of it.
 
You know there is one way in which the Grey College is less than perfect that occurred to me and in the interests of fairness and also just to promote discussion I thought I would share it:

Most Grey wizards are not heirs to massive companies, indeed one of their primary recruiting mechanisms is Aldorf street urchins and in other situations they prefer people like Mathy, young potentials which no or few outside connections. Eike is not going to make many friends in her dorm is what I am getting at. There is likely to be quite a lot of resentment at 'I realized I had magic when a LM friend of the family told my gran' particularly when you add 'my family is fine with it', 'I'm going to be filthy rich' and of course the same young age that helped make Mathilde socially isolated.

Mind many of those are likely to make her something of a object of envy in most of the colleges, but particularly so in the Greys who recruit from the lower classes with some predominance. On the balance it might even be better than say the Golds because there will be fewer well gold digging would be friends looking to get an in with the heiress of the EIC.

The Jades would probably be one of the most welcoming because they have a lot of family lines so they would be used to the idea that someone close to you just found the magic.
 
Personally I think the Jade Order is the best option (if disregarding Eike's views), giving Eike a long term nurturing perspective would be beneficially. Additionally, Eike felt uneasy with the Grey Wind, and seemed relatively fine with Ghyran.
 
Additionally, Eike felt uneasy with the Grey Wind, and seemed relatively fine with Ghyran.
She felt uneasy because her entire life has been a series of tests and the feeling of 'Have I just messed up' was present. Learning how to distinguish Ulgu from that, or indeed the mindset of not every question needs to or will have a definite answer, could help her there.
 
Personally I think the Jade Order is the best option (if disregarding Eike's views), giving Eike a long term nurturing perspective would be beneficially. Additionally, Eike felt uneasy with the Grey Wind, and seemed relatively fine with Ghyran.

I do not think she was uneasy so much as trying to describe the thing

'Like that feeling when you should know an answer but don't' seems like a way to say 'I feel the Wind of Confusion'
 
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