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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[x] Neutral
[X] Wizard
-[X] Let Eike decide
"I am legally required to advocate the colleges, but do what your heart tells you"
 
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Omegahugger said:
Would it though?

Not only are there Ghur administrators and presumeably even merchants out there, the EIC is already designed to withstand one member sitting around basically doing nothing because it's literally illegal for her to earn money.

Besides, if Eike would be happier chasing winds incompatible with the EIC, chances are she wouldn't be too good for it aanyways.
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I do not think she would be happier I think this is making a great deal of very mild observable preferance. Pre-teen girl likes horses stop the presses. :V
 
[X] Wizard
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
- [X] The Order of Life

While I understand the desire to acquire cute apprentice, I'd like Eike to make her own decisions. So I'm explicitly leaving Grey out of my vote to attempt to counteract the big advantage it has.

I won't be upset if Grey wins in a landslide though. It has points going for it.
 
[x] Wizard
- [x] Let Eike decide
- [x] The Celestial College
- [x] The Golden Order
- [x] The Order of Life
[x] Clergy

Mathilde sees magic as a gift, rather than a curse, so I don't think she would ever recomment Magic-Dampening unless she thought the person in question hated their magic. Even with Hubert who was quite unhappy with his college, she only offered it expecting him to not take her up on it.

That leaves wizard and clergy. Both seem fine options to me. However I really dislike the grey order for Eike. Not because having her as an apprentice isn't neat, but because I feel she'd be a bit of a poor fit for it. Part of the reason that Mathilde worked out well in it was the complete lack of meaningful family ties, however that won't be true with Eike. I feel she's be a better fit for the Jade, Celestial, or Gold orders than the grey from what I've seen so far. But honestly, I think Eike deserves to have a pretty big say in her own future, so I really want Let Eike decide to win.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
Again, I think it would be a little disingenuous not the mention the Magic-Dampening as a real option, even if mathy thinks little of it.
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"Technically you have the option to subject Eike to a lifetime of feeling lost, followed by being tempted into corruption and a fall to chaos. I don't recommend it." is as close to a recommendation as I see any reason for Mathilde to go on the subject.

People who try becoming mages but fail or find it's not to their liking, and then get magic dampening, know their limitations and can often accept them. People who are pushed into magic dampening by authority figures are the ultimate in chaos/necromancy-bait.

[X] Wizard
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
- [X] The Order of Life
- [X] The Grey Order

I would put "Clergy" but honestly that kind of feels like using Eike as an experiment to test Teclis' theory that divine and arcane magic users are the same thing. If they're not, she's stuck as an untrained magic-user, with all the trouble that brings.
 
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DragonParadox said:
I do not think she would be happier I think this is making a great deal of very mild observable preferance. Pre-teen girl likes horses stop the presses. :V
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She also instantly took to Wolf and wasn't scared by him. She even rode him to our door from over half way down the mountain. She also was completely not weirded out at Wolf being familier smart or a familier (in contrast to her curiosity about our shadow)
Your letter to Wilhelmina broaching the idea of Eike paying a visit to Karak Eight Peaks seems to have been very convincing indeed, because their response comes carried in the hands of Eike herself, who Wolf spots halfway up the stairs of Karag Nar and gives her a ride the rest of the way, leaving her minder from the local EIC branch far behind. The tone of the letter, which you carefully read your way through as Wolf shows the wide-eyed Eike through your trophy room, seems to indicate that this is not due to some falling out between Eike and Wilhelmina as you initially suspected, but simply because of how important the Dwarves already are and are going to become even more to the EIC's continued success. In Wilhelmina's eyes Eike is apparently starting to meet the ambitious expectations she had of her, and is ready to start truly blossoming, hopefully in the field of Dwarven relations. Well, okay then.

How do you even treat an eleven-year-old, anyway? The only lesson you can really take from your own childhood is to not threaten Eike with a fiery death. You grew up in two very different worlds, both very different to hers. But eventually you remember one thing: how much you hated it when the Apprentices older than you - pretty much all of them - treated you like the child that, admittedly, you still were. So perhaps the way to proceed is to treat her, at least to her face, like the adult that Wilhelmina expects her to be.

"Well then," you say as you enter the trophy room, where Eike is staring transfixed by Alkharad's empty eye sockets. "There'll come a day when you'll be running the EIC, so it's important for you to know how to get along with the Dwarves - which is something a lot of people never really figure out."

"Yes, Dame Weber," she says obediently.

"If you're going to be my partner, you can call me Mathilde. That's Wolf," you say with a nod at him, "he's my familiar, so he'll be helping look after you while you're here, and if there's anything you need to tell me, you can tell him and I'll hear it."

She looks from you to him and back again. "Okay," she says.

"So, let's introduce you to some very important people," you say, still trying to work out exactly which people those should be.
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She also displayed elements of Chamon and Aqshy (with the Aqshy in particular being anomolus)
"Take a seat," you say. She moves to do so, but hesitates halfway. "Something wrong?"

"Your shadow is looking at me," she says - her voice wary rather than outright scared, to her credit.

"It does that. It's harmless, it moves around a bit but in other respects it's like any other shadow."

Eike takes a seat, still watching the shadow. "Is that a Wizard thing?"

"A Grey Wizard thing, yes. Give it a poke if it will make you feel better." She does so hesitantly, then with a frown of concentration as her pokes try to chase the retreating shadow along the wall. You take the opportunity to give her a once-over - she's neatly if plainly dressed, sports a few inkstains, and seems to be in good health. Under your Windsight she's largely untouched, but close scrutiny reveals a few traces of Chamon and Aqshy. She'd probably been in tutoring before being called to meet you which could explain the Wind of Metal. The Wind of Fire is tricky, it could be the result of enthusiasm or annoyance, so it's hard to draw any conclusions from that. You refocus on the physical world as the shadow finally retreats entirely from Eike's reach and she turns back to you. "You're going to be my partner in the EIC one day," you comment.
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[X] Wizard
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
- [X] The Order of Life
- [X] The Grey Order

With significant emphasis on "Eike's life, Eike's decision". (But yes, I also wand adorable apprentice).
 
[X] Neutral
[X] Clergy
[x] Magic-Dampening
[X] Wizard
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
- [X] The Order of Life
 
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If we do end up pushing for Eike to decide, I hope that involves showing Eike all the winds we have access to in K8P, using either available mages or the magic batteries.
 
[X] Neutral
[X] Clergy
[X] Wizard
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
 
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[X] Neutral
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
- [X] The Order of Life
[X] Clergy
 
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Lupercal said:
She also instantly took to Wolf and wasn't scared by him. She even rode him to our door from over half way down the mountain. She also was completely not weirded out at Wolf being familier smart or a familier (in contrast to her curiosity about our shadow)


She also displayed elements of Chamon and Aqshy (with the Aqshy in particular being anomolus)
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The thing is I agree with all of this, but I do not think any of this is actually that telling. It is what glimpses had a few moments at a time into her life and preference. By contrast sending her to the Grey order comes with the very tangible benefit of our help and training. If you start from the premise that humans are not that magically inclined then that seems by far the best path for Eike IMO.
 
One thing against the Ambers is that Eike either has to give up on the EIC, which goes against the sense of responsibility instilled into her and also sucks really bad for Wilhelmina, or she has to spend the rest of her life doing a lot of stuff that clash with her (wind induced) preferences. Running the EIC is going to involve a lot of numbers and staying in cities.
 
[X] Wizard
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Golden Order
- [X] The Order of Life
- [X] The Grey Order
[X] Clergy
 
[X] Neutral
[X] Wizard
- [X] No specific Order
- [X] Let Eike decide
- [X] The Celestial College
- [X] The Golden Order
[X] Clergy
 
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