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[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
 
Why are people passively assuming the Ice witch will go along with what ever we want regardless and wont try and make a solo play for the chalice, keep in mind if she's willing to go for it with just Mathilde helping her she must be pretty sanguine about doing the same solo because from her perspective I doubt she views Mathilde as massively more competent than her.

If we want to hold off on snagging the Chaos artefact we should absolutely be talking with the Ice witch.

or take care of your side of the deal with the Ice Witches now if you think it would be better than doing so on the way home.

This reads to me like the current plan is to steal it on the way back. Im sure that Mathilde and Ljiljana are capable of communicating something like that without us spending ap on it.
 
- For the Rite of Way vote, vote cumulatively. For example, if you want to use two of Mathilde's four choices on it, vote for both the 'rough terrain' and 'moderately difficult ground' options.
How do you plan on counting these? Just normally? Or will you compare wether more people voted for one of the cumulative options than voted for the previous ones only?

Also, what will be the difference in effect of these for the Wagons? Is it a speed increase? A cumulative decrease in mishap chance? Are there diminishing returns?

Because we are not actually present to see the terrain and at least in this specific vote the whole thing seems rather mechanistic and more crunch bound than narrative. If we are spending AP for straight number buffs on our d6s and d100s I'd like to know what we are buying.
- I am declaring a moratorium on all ideas and discussion about how to get the steam-wagons past the narrow part of the ascent until it's time to embark on the journey home once more.
Does this include discussions on bypassing that stretch of road completely, by going through Kul territory, the frozen Lake and more Wastes or by going through Ogre Kingdoms and looking for an easier way down, as far as Cathay if need be?

Because right now chances of getting five Wagons through there unharmed look very grim and the aforementioned solutions, though not very appealing ones, would have to be decided the moment we are turning back from Dum.
 
[ ] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
If we don't vote for this we would still be the contact person for the Dolgan once we encounter them with the whole convoy, right?

But if the Demigryph Knights are ranging ahead, won't they encounter Dolgan before we get a chance of confirming the deal and paying them to pass?
 
What is Hubert doing? I assume aerial reconnaissance for the Winter Wolves in near scouting?

[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak with Johann
[x] Journeywoman Alexandra Kohler
[x] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
[x] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
Rationale:

Barring clarification, I think one degree of RoW is enough.

I want to visit the Yusak before the whole convoy does, and if feasible connect it with Ranging Ahead, and if there's still a slot left also talk to Joerg while doing so.

Finally I am approval voting talking to one of the Wizards we haven't get met.
 
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[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Deathfang
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
What is Hubert doing? I assume aerial reconnaissance for the Winter Wolves in near scouting?

[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak with Johann
[x] Magister Michel Solmann
[x] Journeywoman Alexandra Kohler
[x] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
[x] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
Rationale:

Barring clarification, I think one degree of RoW is enough.

I want to visit the Yusak before the whole convoy does, and if feasible connect it with Ranging Ahead, and if there's still a slot left also talk to Joerg while doing so.

Finally I am approval voting talking to one of the Wizards we haven't get met.
We met Solmann, in update 4 of Expedition.
 
Why are people passively assuming the Ice witch will go along with what ever we want regardless and wont try and make a solo play for the chalice, keep in mind if she's willing to go for it with just Mathilde helping her she must be pretty sanguine about doing the same solo because from her perspective I doubt she views Mathilde as massively more competent than her.

If we want to hold off on snagging the Chaos artefact we should absolutely be talking with the Ice witch.

I mean she did specifically want our help in retrieving it.

Not just a lift in and the protection of the caravan, she wanted us specifically to accompany her in retrieving it.

With that being the case ... she'd talk to us first. She wouldn't jump straight to "Mattie has forsaken our pact, I must act alone." She'd at least try "the hour is now, the artifact is within our grasp, we must go and recover it" and, you know, if we refused to accompany her then she might go and make an attempt to retrieve it.

At least, that's what makes sense to me.
 
[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Use Rite of Way nearly constantly
[X] Ice Crone Ljiljana
[X]Attempt to make contact with the Yusak with Johann
[X] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
 
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan with Johann
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak with Johann
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
Gah, the odds on the crossing are pretty atrocious. Unless we acquire any item or skill that would ease the passage on the way back at Dum, it's a serious consideration to go the other way. Otherwise if we're unlucky we're liable to lose most/all of the wagons and die.

@BoneyM how does the distance on the alternate (northern) route compared to the Skull Road? And, while we're at it, do we know of any specific dangers on that path that would threaten the expedition, particularly terrain-related ones that Rite of Way would not help with?
(This isn't really about solving the gap, so I think this should still be legal)


[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
@BoneyM how does the distance on the alternate (northern) route compared to the Skull Road? And, while we're at it, do we know of any specific dangers on that path that would threaten the expedition, particularly terrain-related ones that Rite of Way would not help with?
(This isn't really about solving the gap, so I think this should still be legal)

Well you would be driving over sea ice deep in the Wastes. I would rather take my chances with gravity honestly.
 
Gah. Are we not allowed to know if the return trip might be longer than expected so we can prepare accordingly? That seems like it might change our behavior.
 
Gah. Are we not allowed to know if the return trip might be longer than expected so we can prepare accordingly? That seems like it might change our behavior.
as Boney put it, until we know the situation at Dum this discussion is premature and will just go in circles. We do not have enough information and can't get enough information until then.
 
[X] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[X] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[X] Use Rite of Way nearly constantly
[X] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
 
[x] Journeywoman Alexandra Kohler
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
 
But friction - even rolling friction - scales linearly with mass, so it's not constant and you use more fuel with heavier load.
At the current mass of the landships, not really going to be all that noticable unless the lubrication fails. Then it'd be very noticable, but in a "things go snap" way in general.
How do you plan on counting these? Just normally? Or will you compare wether more people voted for one of the cumulative options than voted for the previous ones only?
Count the top 4 options. The number of distinct Rite of Way actions in there are the degree of commitment. It can't fail unless someone does silly buggers and votes for the higher option without the lower option.
 
[x] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
 
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
[x] Attempt to steal the Chaos artefact with Ljiljana
 
[x] Use Rite of Way for the worst patches of rough terrain
[x] Use Rite of Way for the moderately difficult ground
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Dolgan
[x] Attempt to make contact with the Yusak
[x] Attempt to steal the Chaos artefact with Ljiljana
 
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