- Location
- Manchester, UK
- Pronouns
- He/They
"to show willing" is a standard phrase. While correct grammar would normally be "to show willingness" or "to show that they're willing", as a standard phrase it gets an exception.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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[X] PLAN: Chaos makes Taal feel peeved!
[X] Plan: Fog Path to Success (Damsels and Thorek)
[X] Plan: Fog Path to Success (Damsels and Thorek)
every source.
like, basic information. the brits have the most and best farmland in the old world.
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
The only provinces that are mountainous is Paravon and Montfort both known to be poor. Forest laden is just Artois. Every where else is basically grasslands or plains.
Compare this to the Empire.
There's no argument to be had that Bretonnia has less living space. They should have vastly more farmland and population just based on the way most of the Empire is uninhabited or rather inhabited by hostile entities.
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I'm not gonna invest a ton of time into self-advocacy today, partially because I'm busy unpacking my new place and partially because I genuinely am basically fine with any of the leading plans winning - we've been talking this over for weeks and everyone agrees on the most important actions to take - but I will point out that Plan Perfectly Balanced has the things you identify as desirable and approval voting is a thing.
Oh noes! We butterflied Karl Franz, now we may not see such beautiful maps without Empire-Marienburg border commissioned.
The only provinces that are mountainous is Paravon and Montfort both known to be poor. Forest laden is just Artois. Every where else is basically grasslands or plains.
Compare this to the Empire.
There's no argument to be had that Bretonnia has less living space. They should have vastly more farmland and population just based on the way most of the Empire is uninhabited or rather inhabited by hostile entities.
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
+ Artois and Gisoreux being full of forests and mountains.
The only provinces that are mountainous is Paravon and Montfort both known to be poor. Forest laden is just Artois. Every where else is basically grasslands or plains.
But you're mostly right, Carcassonne, Quenelles(though these first two have some mountains), Brionne, Aquitaine, Bordeleaux, Lyonesse, L'anguille, and Couronne are mostly grassland.
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Whatever happens with the runesmiths this turn, next turn I think we should try to commission an item that Wolf can use to project images, so he can show people what Mathilde is seeing when she infiltrates somewhere.
We could then hire a runesmith on retainer, even Thorek, with dwarf favour to work with Wolf to be available to help Mathilde if she needs their counsel while infiltrating into Karak Dum. We could possibly even choose to do it after we learn of the fate of Karak Dum when we get there, but I'm not sure BoneyM would allow that.
We could then hire a runesmith on retainer, even Thorek, with dwarf favour to work with Wolf to be available to help Mathilde if she needs their counsel while infiltrating into Karak Dum. We could possibly even choose to do it after we learn of the fate of Karak Dum when we get there, but I'm not sure BoneyM would allow that.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
L'Anguille- Mostly arable, but with a rugged coastline and a stretch of the Forest of Arden at the bottom. No large towns, only notable settlement is L'Anguille itself.
Aquitaine- Largely arable, but with no large cities- even Aquitaine itself is noted to be more of a medium-size town. Large number of towns that have as many abandoned buildings as lived-in ones.
Artois- Almost entirely within the Forest of Arden.
Bastonne- Arable and pastoral, but with noted threats from the Forest of Chalons and the Black Chasm. Only notable settlement is Castle Bastonne.
Bordelaux- Good land, good coastline. Some trouble from the Forest of Chalons and from Mousillon.
Brionne- Good land, no real threats apart from disease, which is endemic.
Carcassonne- Little farmland, mostly pastures or mountains. Considerable threat from the Greenskins living in the Vaults.
Couronne- Farmland in the western part, mostly just horse-breeding in the Marches to the east. Rugged coastline. Considerable threat from the Greenskins living in the Grey Mountains and from Norscans over the coastline.
Gisoreux- Half of the population concentrated within the main hills area. Almost entirely within the Grey Mountains or the Forest of Arden. Considerable threats from both.
Lyonnesse- Rugged coastline, largely farmland. Main threats seem to be themselves.
Montfort- Almost entirely in the Grey Mountains.
Mousillon- Is Mousillon.
Parravon- Almost entirely within the Grey Mountains or a thin strip of Athel Loren.
Quenelles- Largely farmland and pasture. Mostly threatened by the Massif Orcal.
So, about half of the Dukedoms have considerable farmland. And even then, at best, they have a single notable city, no other large settlements.
I have no idea if Bretonnia has more people than the Empire, but I do know there's no source that outright says it. If people want to draw on factors present to say it does, that's their business, but that's headcanon, not canon.
Aquitaine- Largely arable, but with no large cities- even Aquitaine itself is noted to be more of a medium-size town. Large number of towns that have as many abandoned buildings as lived-in ones.
Artois- Almost entirely within the Forest of Arden.
Bastonne- Arable and pastoral, but with noted threats from the Forest of Chalons and the Black Chasm. Only notable settlement is Castle Bastonne.
Bordelaux- Good land, good coastline. Some trouble from the Forest of Chalons and from Mousillon.
Brionne- Good land, no real threats apart from disease, which is endemic.
Carcassonne- Little farmland, mostly pastures or mountains. Considerable threat from the Greenskins living in the Vaults.
Couronne- Farmland in the western part, mostly just horse-breeding in the Marches to the east. Rugged coastline. Considerable threat from the Greenskins living in the Grey Mountains and from Norscans over the coastline.
Gisoreux- Half of the population concentrated within the main hills area. Almost entirely within the Grey Mountains or the Forest of Arden. Considerable threats from both.
Lyonnesse- Rugged coastline, largely farmland. Main threats seem to be themselves.
Montfort- Almost entirely in the Grey Mountains.
Mousillon- Is Mousillon.
Parravon- Almost entirely within the Grey Mountains or a thin strip of Athel Loren.
Quenelles- Largely farmland and pasture. Mostly threatened by the Massif Orcal.
So, about half of the Dukedoms have considerable farmland. And even then, at best, they have a single notable city, no other large settlements.
I have no idea if Bretonnia has more people than the Empire, but I do know there's no source that outright says it. If people want to draw on factors present to say it does, that's their business, but that's headcanon, not canon.
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Azul Runesmiths weren't part of that whole thing. Thorek only learned about this recently.
- Location
- Earth
Thorek will still blast the Karaz Ankor Runesmith Guild to kingdom come depending on what he learns in Dum.
Either himself or from a Runesmith who went there or from a survivor.
- Location
- Mexico
Isn't it likely that they share at least some of the misconceptions that led to the original schism anyway?
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
The main issue at hand is the conclave. Azul Runesmiths weren't present, so they don't have anything on record of them not taking the build-up to the Great War Against Chaos seriously, so they don't feel any need to disparage Karag Dum to avoid the need to take a Slayer Oath.
Thorek at least seemed to be siding with Karag Dum, at least in part.
- Location
- Earth
Yes, but what Thorek learns in Dum might cause him to insist that the KaK Runesmiths take the Slayer Oath.
I can't see them reacting well to that.
@BoneyM while i would put money on it not being his main motivation.
I assume that Thorek is political enough to know that if he gets the proof that the anti-Dum Runelords are playing games and he recks shop.
that he will basically be able to direct the future of the guild as he pleases as the only powerful political rune lord left standing to the point of it basically being a hostile takeover.
like, not his reason to do it, but he must be aware that he will be totally taking over in the aftermath... and, is not against that result... even if its connected to a tragedy.
I assume that Thorek is political enough to know that if he gets the proof that the anti-Dum Runelords are playing games and he recks shop.
that he will basically be able to direct the future of the guild as he pleases as the only powerful political rune lord left standing to the point of it basically being a hostile takeover.
like, not his reason to do it, but he must be aware that he will be totally taking over in the aftermath... and, is not against that result... even if its connected to a tragedy.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
[X] Plan Perfectly Balanced
[X] Plan Unconvention
I'm just not a fan of trying to bring the damsels into this. Yes, they'd be an incredible asset if we could get them, but I think the likelihood is too low to be worth the time trying- we have nothing in particular to offer them, and there's no reason to suspect they're invested enough in the situation to risk a trip into the wastes for the sake of the expedition. It also feels uncomfortably close to metagaming to me; Mathilde has seen a single damsel during a series of lectures and didn't directly interact with her to any degree notable enough to get a text mention, she's never shown any particular interest in or knowledge of them before, and any reasoning involving the 'interest' vote is something Mathilde has no way of knowing in-universe.
[X] Plan Unconvention
I'm just not a fan of trying to bring the damsels into this. Yes, they'd be an incredible asset if we could get them, but I think the likelihood is too low to be worth the time trying- we have nothing in particular to offer them, and there's no reason to suspect they're invested enough in the situation to risk a trip into the wastes for the sake of the expedition. It also feels uncomfortably close to metagaming to me; Mathilde has seen a single damsel during a series of lectures and didn't directly interact with her to any degree notable enough to get a text mention, she's never shown any particular interest in or knowledge of them before, and any reasoning involving the 'interest' vote is something Mathilde has no way of knowing in-universe.
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- Location
- North Wales
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I believe Wolf is being left behind safe in the Karak, not going on the road with us? One of the bigger arguments against deepening the familiar bond any further was that it would obligate Mathilde to bring him along everywhere.
- Location
- Brazil
We could have an ale cellar, why are we voting to fortify our penthouse against forcible entry?
It's at the top of a fortified mountain, that's in the middle of a fortified mountain range.
It's at the top of a fortified mountain, that's in the middle of a fortified mountain range.
- Location
- Hollister
[X] PLAN: Chaos makes Taal feel peeved!
[X] PLAN: No Risking Runesmiths
[X] PLAN: No Risking Runesmiths