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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Redshirt Army said:
[] [LIBRARY] Imperial Texts: Extensive/Esoteric Skaven, Extensive Skaven Magic, Extensive Greenskin Magic, Antiquarian Grey Magic (2 College Favor), Extensive Amber Magic, Extensive/Esoteric Linguistics, Extensive Warpstone, Extensive Morr, Extensive Karaz Ankor. Dwarf Texts: Extensive Greenskin Magic, Extensive Skaven Magic, Extensive Romance Novels, Extensive Linguistics, Extensive Daemons. Brettonian Texts: Extensive Romance Novels. Tilean Texts: Extensive Romance Novels.
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What, no Arabyan Romances?

Codex said:
Skaven communication has a pheromone component that we can't replicate.
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Would a conventional rat even be able to communicate that? I talked to the big two leg rat looking thing and it asked X is probably as far as it could get.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Also, getting Kragg to make his greatest masterwork a sword for a human sounds like a hilarious prank Ranald would approve of.
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I want to imagine Kragg's realization that Mathilde is currently his best (probably only) customer. Not the king of K8P or the High King, but a shadow wizard that got too influenced by adventure books.
 
deathofrats0808 said:
We don't know why it's like that though. It could just be Gromril is inherently basically indestrucible, or it could be it's something in the forging, combined with the properties of the metal itself. Which would make sense to me, especially given the fact there's apparently three different ways to make the stuff, each of which gives it different properties.


I thought you were talking about what most people see on TV and call a longsword. Which were secondary weapons.
Cut through it? No, but they can still hurt someone in plate, unlike a shortsword which will pretty much just bounce off without really doing anything. Zweihanders and the like are mostly for giving unarmoured enemies a really bad time, while still not leaving yourself helpless against an armoured opponent like a smaller blade would.
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Fortunately, a 25 favor Gromril weapon that hits like a cannonball shouldn't need to worry about it.
jjffjhjf said:
Yeah, but they'd apparently never seen anything like Glimril before, so I'm guessing it's not just refined gromril which would be something that'd be part of something else they'd seen in at least their oldest holds I'd think.
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The White Dwarf is basically a demigod, iirc, so maybe it was forged by the Ancestor Gods?
 
Redshirt Army said:
But what really did it was the description of us reading the Libris Mortis. We got absurd traits out of it, and we literally just started. We're playing in the big leagues now - we should get a weapon befitting that position.
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Would you also be vote to train up Advanced Greatsword (when we find a suitable trainer/sparring partner)- and the associated WFB statline boost to WS5- to be more worthy of wielding it?
They feel kind of linked.
 
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SuperSonicSound said:
That's true but it's not really to much of an issue.
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Alratan said:
What, no Arabyan Romances?



Would a conventional rat even be able to communicate that? I talked to the big two leg rat looking thing and it asked X is probably as far as it could get.
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It depends on if a rat can pick up on the Skaven's pheromones and if it's that that influences the rats to recongise them, rather than any visual indicator.
 
Stranger1950 said:
I want to imagine Kragg's realization that Mathilde is currently his best (probably only) customer. Not the king of K8P or the High King, but a shadow wizard that got too influenced by adventure books.
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I mean, not really a customer, so much as the only person he begrudgingly finds to be worth the effort of forging things for personally; we don't pay him, these are technically all thank you gifts. It's just that dwarves apparently measure sentiment numerically, which makes more sense now that we know what they focus on in their romance novels.
Alliterate said:
Would you also be vote to train up Advanced Greatsword (when we find a suitable trainer/sparring partner)- and the associated WFB statline boost to WS5- to be more worthy of wielding it?
They feel kind of linked.
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Oh yes, that sounds quite nice.
 
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.

Use the Spider colony for Skaven hunting or nothing at all.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Yes, absolutely - I was in fact considering posting an argument in support of that myself.
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We probably need to put some social actions into befriending Gunnars first, but that might be useful in more than one way. I'm still tempted by dwarven soul lore given BoneyM's clarifications. Particularly as I can see synergy with Advanced Morrite Lore.

Honestly, we probably need to spend a social action on each of the Councillors.
 
Alratan said:
Belear would know if this was grudge worthy, and if it was he wouldn't do it. He may be a pragmatist, but he's not an iconoclast. He's still a dwarven king. Dwarves keep dwarven loot they recover all the time. Thorek is famous for 'recovering' lost runes and runic items from fallen dwarven holds and settlements. We've also been told that gromil is too precious not to be reused, and that they've even recycled broken Anvils of Power, which are far more valuable than a suit on unruned armour.
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It's not that the taking of the armor itself is Grudge-worthy, it's more, I'd like to try and mend the rift between the two competing ideologies in Dwarven culture. We don't have to give them the armor. We could use it for our own purposes. But using it to foster goodwill is a significant gesture, to me.
 
Speedy Subsurface Spider Sentai Gooooo~~~
And if they do well, the Dwarves will be more inclined to let them stay later. Or hire them on as CavalWe.

[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.

The armour feels like more of a personal thing for the Dwarves to decide among themselves.

Ain't got an opinion on runes and stuff. Y'all can handle that, I'm just here to see the fireworks.
 
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Even if we do end up having Belegar commission a Talk With Beasts item for whoever ends up doing We diplomacy, I'm tempted to try to get another one for Mathilde's personal collection. The ability to chat up the local (b/c/r)at population when we visit a city could be Useful for sneaky biz. :V Especially given Mathilde is a fair hand at picking apart animal dialect haha.
 
BungieONI said:
[X] [ENCHANTMENT] An item enchanted with Talk With Beast to give to the spiders (3 favors)
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Aside from the very strong "Belegars' Allies, Belegar (as Lord of the state) pays for the magic doodad" argument-

Giving The We an item enchanted with Talk With Beast would also let them exchange Sound-with-meaning from not-We with Orcs, Goblins, Skaven, and pretty much any other language-using being.

I don't know that that's what we want to happen, speaking from the interests of K8P.
 
Alliterate said:
Would you also be vote to train up Advanced Greatsword (when we find a suitable trainer/sparring partner)- and the associated WFB statline boost to WS5- to be more worthy of wielding it?
They feel kind of linked.
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Redshirt Army said:
The way I see it, we have the 18 months (3 Turns) that the weapon is being forged in to get Advanced Greatsword 3/3 and the associated trait to be worthy of it.
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Probably, and iirc, it also gives +1 A.

@BoneyM would hiring a greatsword tutor from the Empire let us finish it faster?
 
Alliterate said:
Aside from the very strong "Belegars' Allies, Belegar (as Lord of the state) pays for the magic doodad" argument-

Giving The We an item enchanted with Talk With Beast would also let them exchange Sound-with-meaning from not-We with Orcs, Goblins, Skaven, and pretty much any other language-using being.

I don't know that that's what we want to happen, speaking from the interests of K8P.
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Not quite, it would be enchanted to work in Reikspiel only.
 
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant

I'm really glad people see the sense in this choice. It's also the only option that I immediately made a decision on as soon as I read the update. This guy is absolutely perfect! A merchant who lost his fortune and then through unexpected circumstances has a chance of regaining old glories. That's exactly the right image we want to show here.
On top of that he grumbles about how Orcs broke and stole all his stuff and he had to spend a bunch of time fighting instead of proper trading. The guy is basically as dwarfy as a human can get.

Combine it with his fighting skills, trading ability and our good sources of information on him there can be no better choice.

The opposite is the Brettonian woman who we have contradicting sources on and worships an Elf god. There can be no worse a choice.


[X] [ARMOUR] It should be reforged into a worthy commemoration of the Karak's rebirth.
This armor has been all Skavened up. Disgusting.

I haven't seen much to really sway me one way or the other on the Spider vote and as long as they stick around I'm happy although military alliance makes sense to do before consolidation so I'm inclined to go for alliance against skaven/greenskin.

Edit: After some more time to go through the thread I'm adding the following to my vote.

[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.

I'm worried about the Spiders eating a bunch of warpstone by accident when they eat the Skaven.
 
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I just got off a 12 hour warehouse shift, and I have no time to go digging through the chat, so I'm just going to vote for anything in the Tally I like. Hopefully its not wrong.

[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.

[X] [RUNE] 25 Favour Sword

[X] [ARMOUR] It should be reforged into a worthy commemoration of the Karak's rebirth.
 
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SuperSonicSound said:
Not quite, it would be enchanted to work in Reikspiel only.
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That seems like a fairly bold assumption? I can't conclusively gainsay it, but why would that be the case? It'd presumably have to be a spell variant being as it's invoked by the non-language-user... so it'd make sense to me if it worked as a 'The We to Other Language', as opposed 'Reikspiel to Any Other Thinking Creature' when Seija casts it.
 
Alliterate said:
That seems like a fairly bold assumption? I can't gainsay it, but why would that be the case? It'd presumably have to be a spell variant being as it's invoked by the non-language-user... so it'd make sense to me if it worked as a 'The We to Other Language', as opposed 'Reikspiel to Any Other Thinking Creature' when Seija casts it.
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Because the spell works by translating the beast language into what the guy who cast it knows, we were told it couldn't be used to get the spider to talk in Khazalid because none of the college enchanters know the language. A bound item that works for them will only work in the language the enchanter knows.
 
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