You know, asmuch as some will loathe it, fixing the Inevitable forge is probably a pretty good idea.
Next month, I'm not going to be convinced to use Anu anywhere except putting him on Creation Forge research. It's super useful knowledge to have, leads to cheaper and quicker Warforged production, and should be an excellent primer to repairing the Inevitable Forge of Axis, should the opportunity ever present itself.
 
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The temptation to head out and try to figure out just what magics were being used to cleanse gold gifted by the Deep Ones was no small thing, but she held her peace. Such metal might not be as perilous here as in the hands of the damned souls who took it as payment from their new masters, but it still carried a heavy enough curse that Lord Brandon had specifically told her not to get near, and he usually erred on the side that got her into fights with trolls... not that she had minded it in the end. It was even funny now that she could laugh about it without broken ribs burning like fire.
This sound like a crying shame, cleansing cursed gold, the curse make it valuable sacrifice fodder, and with how the gold market is going to crash, it's probably far more valuable as a sacrifice.
 
Whether she could be one or not isn't in question, because she definitely could. The issue is whether she should. There are better options for her that will make her.more useful to Amrelath and more likely to survive as his vassal.
@Duesal, I'm against giving her ANY PrC. She has the Water domain, right? Or at least she can access it with Substitute Domain. The means that she can rebuke or destroy fire creatures, an excellent ability for a Cleric going to fight on the Plane of Fire. Therefore I think that going straight Cleric (to avoid losing any turn/rebuke levels) is a solid choice.

You know, as much as some will loathe it, fixing the Inevitable forge is probably a pretty good idea.
I agree. However, I fear that we may be unable to do so for now. Hey, we may be unable to even access the Forge! Surely they don't let just anyone get close to it.

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Anybody think this might be worth researching? (Using biotech)

It is an extremely powerful class, especially the Synthesist archetype.
It's a Pathfinder class, so I'm against it on principle.
Pathfinder is generally stronger that 3.5 (and is intended to function with different Feat and skill rules), and I'm quite hesitant to start turning our 3.5 game into a Pathfinder game.
 
We refuse because he acted like a dick to our sister who was six years old. And by all accounts he is a prick with a holier than thou attitude, you guys would get along famously I imagine.

No, he really didn't tiamat had first claim to contact with us, Bahamut COULDN'T contact Dany first. Your assuming the worst possible reasons for his actions.
 
No, he really didn't tiamat had first claim to contact with us, Bahamut COULDN'T contact Dany first. Your assuming the worst possible reasons for his actions.
I would ask for a citation on that, but lets agree to disagree. This discussion has been going on in circles and we've made our respective positions pretty clear and no one is convincing anyone else. If you feel strongly enough, try to get it included in the turn vote and the thread can decide then.
 
It's a Pathfinder class, so I'm against it on principle. Pathfinder is generally stronger that 3.5 (and is intended to function with different Feat and skill rules), and I'm quite hesitant to start turning our 3.5 game into a Pathfinder game.

There's nothing wrong with using Pathfinder classes. We've adapted them fine so far. The biggest difference between them and base 3.5 versions is that they are fully customizable, and loaded with options and flavor, without needing to ever use a PrC.
 
I think fixing the Inevitable Forge is better left for after we find out what causes the Darkness in Heaven. No need to give the Enemy free bots.

Which reminds me. Don't we have to get Rina's Class' Companion Feature? We could really use info on how to pull away those taken by the void
 
As is readily seen, I'm commenting as I read through.

@tarrangar the idea for living gear has merit, but keep in mind we already have a huge cheat in that direction, courtesy of our ancestors: valyrian steel.
Valyrian steel is great for weapons, but unless you just want a +weapon you have to enchant it, with the Fungus Forge you just have to pay more to get a higher CR living weapon.

And Valyrian steel isn't all that good as armor, which living armor should be as good as enchanted armor.

So while yes Valyrian steel is really nice, it don't mean living gear isn't worth the work.
 
I mean, I just said that?

Just keep in mind the basic, extremely solid stuff is more than covered by VS. It's adamantine tough, bypasses that particular DR, and gets you +2 anything.

+2 sword, shield and armor at lv 3-6 is a serious, serious boost.

But it's good to see you realize the value is in the, well, funky effects.
 
You know, I don't see the harm in poking Bahamut.

If he is useful, that's one more allied God. If he ain't, business as usual.

Not putting in the that little effort, after these particular revelations, would feel weird.
 
You know, I don't see the harm in poking Bahamut.

If he is useful, that's one more allied God. If he ain't, business as usual.

Not putting in the that little effort, after these particular revelations, would feel weird.
We've already heard from DP and Azel today that Bahamut would be extremely difficult to work with (literally 1000 times worse than Lucan, I think Azel said), and that we would have to sacrifice a lot (and not in the vein of sacrificing captured enemies) to be able to make us acceptable allies to him. I'm not willing to give up our Erinyes, sacrificing enemies, feeding enemy corpses to the Fungal Forge, etc., to please him.
 
We've already heard from DP and Azel today that Bahamut would be extremely difficult to work with (literally 1000 times worse than Lucan, I think Azel said), and that we would have to sacrifice a lot (and not in the vein of sacrificing captured enemies) to be able to make us acceptable allies to him. I'm not willing to give up our Erinyes, sacrificing enemies, feeding enemy corpses to the Fungal Forge, etc., to please him.
Yeah that killed my interest in allying with him too, I would still like a non-aggression pact with him, and I would like to resurrect the Metallics, just because this Multiverse need all the forces of Good it can get, even if this particular one, would be one that the most our Imperium can agree to with, is that there's bigger threats out there, and so we should just avoid each other.

Resurrecting the Metallics, is of course only if he agrees to a non-aggression pact.
 
If that is true, Bahamut doesn't make much sense. Existence itself is in dire straits and Bahamut is wily enough to understand that, and as such, stomach shit he normally wouldn't.

In short, that kind of Bahamut only makes sense if said Bahamut is Lawful Stupid.
 
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If that is true, Bahamut doesn't make much sense. Reality itself is in dire straits and Bahamut is wily enough to understand and stomach shit he normally wouldn't. It only makes sense to do otherwise if Bahamut is Lawful Stupid.
Disagreeing with Viserys methods and priorities is not a sign of stupidity.

Other people have other thoughts on the what and how of fixing the state of the universe. Sometimes these opinions and ideas wildly diverge from one another.
 
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