But does Planetos deserve his goodness?

That is the question.
I mentioned it earlier in passing, but: if Planetos is the plane of balance, and the cosmic balance is out of whack since before the dragon empire - might that have bleed through to Planetos? Would explain the shitshow all around.
 
So anyone got any idea for what combination of abilities we would want with symbionts, DP at some point said that Oathkeeper could potentially get caster levels, so it's definitely possible to make Symbionts with class templates, I'm personally thinking that the first Symbiont creature we produce, should be a 3 part creature, we hire out for corpses to help defend Nirvana, what combination of class templates, would have the greatest synergy?

I'm thinking that we make Symbionts to be wielded by mortals, animal level intelligent, and symbionts to be wielded by Fungus Forge creatures Sapient, as with the Fungus Forge creatures, we can make it so the Symbionts and the wielder are a hivemind, that decide what to do together.
 
Very wrong. We spoke in the first Lys arc. The man was a total dick. Like, just... awful.

He's why we picked up the second unraveling for Garin's use, for one thing.

Since my well thought out and highly practical "stab the god of slavery in the face and let him bleed out near a heart tree to empower the OG" never gained any traction, I think we're going with a "change the narrative, change the god" approach.

Keep in mind he is also the god of slaves, likely warped by the trauma of his followers.
 
He's why we picked up the second unraveling for Garin's use, for one thing.
Oh, and speaking about it...
Do we really want to keep it unused before after R'hlor says what he needs and Garin has no choice but do, @everyone?

Do we really care that much about R'hlor's feelings at this point, considering that we have been treating his faith more-or-less fairly anyway?

I want to free Garin, and be done with that plotline before it ever comes up.
 
Oh, and speaking about it...
Do we really want to keep it unused before after R'hlor says what he needs and Garin has no choice but do, @everyone?

Do we really care that much about R'hlor's feelings at this point, considering g that we have been treating his faith more-or-less fairly?

I want to free Garin, and be done with that plotline before it ever comes up.
It's an Unraveling. We're not going to casually use it unless what R'hllor demands is very bad, because something worse might always happen later and we can't buy these things on demand.
 
Oh, and speaking about it...
Do we really want to keep it unused before after R'hlor says what he needs and Garin has no choice but do, @everyone?

Do we really care that much about R'hlor's feelings at this point, considering g that we have been treating his faith more-or-less fairly?

I want to free Garin, and be done with that plotline before it ever comes up.
Problem is that his faith is in a pretty good position to cause a lot of chaos during to their sheer numbers. I'd propose giving the unraveling to him and trusting his judgement like we did with Dany (if hes not holding it already).
 
Oh, and speaking about it...
Do we really want to keep it unused before after R'hlor says what he needs and Garin has no choice but do, @everyone?

Do we really care that much about R'hlor's feelings at this point, considering that we have been treating his faith more-or-less fairly anyway?

I want to free Garin, and be done with that plotline before it ever comes up.
I sympathize with your nervousness here, but we should probably find out what R'hllor will ask before we commit to using the Unravelling. That said I am right there with you in wanting Garin free of that oath.
 
So anyone got any idea for what combination of abilities we would want with symbionts, DP at some point said that Oathkeeper could potentially get caster levels, so it's definitely possible to make Symbionts with class templates, I'm personally thinking that the first Symbiont creature we produce, should be a 3 part creature, we hire out for corpses to help defend Nirvana, what combination of class templates, would have the greatest synergy?

I'm thinking that we make Symbionts to be wielded by mortals, animal level intelligent, and symbionts to be wielded by Fungus Forge creatures Sapient, as with the Fungus Forge creatures, we can make it so the Symbionts and the wielder are a hivemind, that decide what to do together.
Symbiotes that provide clean air and underwater breathing, symbiotes that provide low-light vision and/or dark vision, armors that act as plate but also provide minor strength enhancements, armors which grant alternative movement abilities such as a Swim speed or flight, armor that can camouflage it's wearer, etc.

We don't need to go for extremely powerful stuff, at least not at first That's not the strength of living symbiotes. We want them to be simple, cheap, and most importantly, able to be grown outside of the Fungal Forge once they have been properly designed.

None of it should be sentient, either. That's just asking for trouble. If we want sentient plant creatures, we should just make Leshy, Versant Wolves, or any of the other Plant creations we have made to date.

Eventually, suits of living power armor would be an ideal goal, but that would, of course, require a steep research commitment.
 
Q["Goldfish, post: 12558936, member: 3626"]We know he allowed Dany to become Tiamat's servant as part of a test of morals. Which she failed. Because she wanted to Resurrect Viserys. As a six year old child.[/QUOTE]

Honestly this is one of the reasons I want to know what he's up to so bad. :confused:
This was OOC knowledge and it kind of feels like character assassination.

Anyway, before I kill this line of thought with a shovel.

One of Bahamuts most avowed traits is his compassion and empathy.

He might not agree with what we do, he might disagree with a LOT of what we do.

But I highly doubt he would be dismissive of why we did what we did.

Hence him simply... Not getting involved with us.

Which lines up with DPs real life reasoning not to involve him pretty much perfectly.
 
Garin is Mind Blanked and incredibly lethal. How exactly would R'hllor try to make him do anything that wouldn't result in a net loss for the Red Faith?

We shouldn't worry about Garin being made to do anything untoward. We should worry when R'hllor makes a perfectly reasonable request for which we cannot see the downsides. That'll be the sign that Azel is involved.
 
Symbiotes that provide clean air and underwater breathing, symbiotes that provide low-light vision and/or dark vision, armors that act as plate but also provide minor strength enhancements, armors which grant alternative movement abilities such as a Swim speed or flight, armor that can camouflage it's wearer, etc.

We don't need to go for extremely powerful stuff, at least not at first That's not the strength of living symbiotes. We want them to be simple, cheap, and most importantly, able to be grown outside of the Fungal Forge once they have been properly designed.

None of it should be sentient, either. That's just asking for trouble. If we want sentient plant creatures, we should just make Leshy, Versant Wolves, or any of the other Plant creations we have made to date.

Eventually, suits of living power armor would be an ideal goal, but that would, of course, require a steep research commitment.
Those are great ideas, but I don't think we should discount the powerful stuff either, your kind of symbiotes sound great, but I'm still kind of attached, to the idea of breaking the Fungus Forges CR limit, by making creature's that can combine into a stronger creature.

Your ideas sounds great for our own use, my idea is more in how we can turn corpses into strong enough soldiers, to matter on the fields of Nirvana, so we can convince them to send us the corpses from the battlefield, in return for soldiers.

Outside PCs and things that take a lot of Crafter time, we don't really have any troops that we expect to do well on the Planes, I would like to construct a soldier template, that make a decent soldier by Planar standards.
 
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Those are great ideas, but I don't think we should discount the powerful stuff either, your kind of symbiotes sound great, but I'm still kind of attached, to the idea of breaking the Fungus Forges CR limit, by making creature's that can combine into a stronger creature.

Your ideas sounds great for our own use, my idea is more in how we can turn corpses into strong enough soldiers, to matter on the fields of Nirvana, so we can convince them to send us the corpses from the battlefield, in return for soldiers.
Think of it like a tech tree we're researching. You don't start off making symbiote Voltron.

The research progress requirement on that would likely be in the hundreds.

Start small. A simple symbiotic rebreather, for example. Then move on in complexity from there. The progression should be reasonable and measured, so that useful stuff becomes available sooner rather later to justify the time investment.
 
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Does he have some true names?

Yes, but they are neither true nor names except when they are except when they also are and aren't.

#FarRealmStuff

I want to free Garin, and be done with that plotline before it ever comes up.
This, so much this. I want to cut that plotline off before it starts. I mean, that fits with the idea of a narrative "unraveling" anyway.

Free Garin, deal with the areshole bitching about it. But eh. If not this then I'd like to give him the fey box with the unraveling inside it, leave it up to him when to use it. When he chooses, whenever he chooses, we deal with the consequences.

Keep in mind he is also the god of slaves, likely warped by the trauma of his followers.

Oh, FFS DP! Now you got me feeling bad for fricking Rh'loor. I mean. Really. I was looking forward to twisting that faith, and thereby the god, into something nice and now I.. still want to, but it's coming from compassion and not disgust.

Freaking authors finding perfect words *mutters (fake) angrily* :p

Edit: The 'FFS' was a joke. This is not: Hugs DP
 
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