DkArthas
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Sure, I am mostly surprised that the Whole lot hasn't Fallen because of that. Countless millennia under Hell and still radiant? I don't expect them to fall like Yrael did.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Damn it. Who started the Bahamut discussion this time? I don't think it was tarrangar.
I know I'm not the only one who is tired of it.
You folks do realize that he would be more likely to align with Lucan than us, right?
I know I'm not the only one who is tired of it.
You folks do realize that he would be more likely to align with Lucan than us, right?
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Before the Valyrian Empire there was the Red Dragon Empire. You know her children, who worshipped her and sacrificed to her. Just because she got a whipping from the Valyrians doesn't mean she was that badly hurt. Also Valyria was literally powering her existence. Feral Red Dragons. Dragon-blooded. Chances are she had enough to live on.
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"Bahamut is closely allied with Moradin, and together with Kord they rule Celestia in a holy triumvirate."
Oh boy.
Anyway.
"About a quarter of the time, Bahamut wanders Oerth in the shape of a human or some other guise. He is said to have been encountered as a frail old hermit, with the seven great golden wyrms that accompany him disguised as seven canaries singing sweetly nearby."
I mis spoke @DragonParadox he should not have come looking for us, but he probably looked around our kingdom extensively.
An interlude of him doing something would probably be ideal. Since he just commits random acts of kindness while looking at people 25% of the time.
Oh boy.
Anyway.
"About a quarter of the time, Bahamut wanders Oerth in the shape of a human or some other guise. He is said to have been encountered as a frail old hermit, with the seven great golden wyrms that accompany him disguised as seven canaries singing sweetly nearby."
I mis spoke @DragonParadox he should not have come looking for us, but he probably looked around our kingdom extensively.
An interlude of him doing something would probably be ideal. Since he just commits random acts of kindness while looking at people 25% of the time.
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I'm not going to go trawling back through the thread, but one could say the same about Tiamat. She didn't start interacting with the mortal world until she had access to it through those of Chromatic Dragonblood (aka Valyrians). There were no other Chromatics around that weren't locked up somewhere until she had access to people who gave her things to use her power on.
I imagine the same hold true for Bahamut, except because there are essentially no Metallic Dragonblood on the PoB he has no clear line of access, which is only compounded by no one knowing who he is (and thus not knowing how to call on him).
If a Dragon God could just make dragon eggs out of nothing then we would be having a problem as a legion of True Dragons would be coming to gank our ass in the name of Tiamat.
Edit: but yes, people are starting to get irritated, I'll drop this now.
Sorry y'all
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I think they avoided it by trying to do what good they could in that situation. Azel said that multiple factions stronger than us tried to dislodge the Devils from Heaven and failed, so the Archons probably recognized the cause as lost and just worked with what they had. There's a nobility in that rather than blindly fighting to the death and leaving nobody to pick up the pieces.
I am also very, very tired of it.
Lets go and ask him. Thats my whole point.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
We can always ask DP, whether Bahamut is still a strong god, or weakened into near nothing.
@DragonParadox Is Bahamut still a strong god, or is he weakened far below Tiamat by the loss of the Metallics?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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Yes yes it is going to break the game.
Please stop looking at it from the position "we are losing".
You may not like it, but the universe has always been shit in-quest.
Deal with it. Get over it.
"if that would work, why didn't anyone ever do that before?" Is a very valid argument @Azel always brought up.
Please consider it carefully.
Tbh, this, in particular, really rubs me the wrong way about how you look at it at all.
at least not everything is fucking gone!
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I still don't get what you are all thinking with Cerulean Signs?
That stuff is nearly useless on the scale we are talking about.
It's a level 3 spell that stuns/weakens Abberation depending on the Caster's level vs the Abberation's HD.
Alone it is utterly worthless, as any Deep One can simply wait out the negative effect and move on.
It doesn't kill, it doesn't banish, it doesn't even hold back.
It's a spell for combat, to make the opponent stumble for a bit so the other partymembers can bring the damage. No different from a Nauseating Cloud, much weaker than Holy (or other alignment) Word and I don't see people suggesting to ward all of creation with that.
That stuff is nearly useless on the scale we are talking about.
It's a level 3 spell that stuns/weakens Abberation depending on the Caster's level vs the Abberation's HD.
Alone it is utterly worthless, as any Deep One can simply wait out the negative effect and move on.
It doesn't kill, it doesn't banish, it doesn't even hold back.
It's a spell for combat, to make the opponent stumble for a bit so the other partymembers can bring the damage. No different from a Nauseating Cloud, much weaker than Holy (or other alignment) Word and I don't see people suggesting to ward all of creation with that.
Sure but should we not even try to contact him.
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Oh fuck, you just want a conversation...I am kind of tired of talking to gods and people with gods. After the storm god, heaven, Lucan and Danielle I kinda just don't want to talk to a god outside of "here are the laws to the Empire and here is a temple. Have a nice day".
Edit: Sorry about the everything else. A conversation is weird for me right now.
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We have no need???? We are literally at war with several stronger factions. We absloutly have need for as many gods as possible.
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I thought at a high enough CL Cerulean Sign outright kills?
That said, you have a very valid point on the range being worthless. A fixed radius of only 360 ft. at most is pretty much worthless in the grand scheme of things. This would be different if we could increase that a hundredfold, though. Or a thousandfold. That would be enough to guard at least one city in Nirvana.
DkArthas
CAPITAL IS TO BLAME
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I don't think that has ever stopped us before. We have pulled multiple shit like That super awesome flying ship and those cheap cannons in a few years that for some reason no one has thought of before.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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not really, no.
He wants to deal with us/our realm?
He can come to us at any moment.
We will listen for anything he has to say.
Going to him? Listening to moralizings, trying to find a way to get him on our side, without compromising out ways too much?
No t.hanks.
We have more relevant and important things and deities to deal with than him.
Even than as far as "going to ask" we do have better choices.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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No, let's don't. We have better shit to do than try to find a god who doesn't appear to want to be found.
And we aren't some shining beacon of Goodness and rainbows and Unicorns, either. We knowingly and happily work with Devils and we commit blood sacrifice at a level an Old Valyrian would envy.
Bahamut is not a Lawful Neutral, pragmatic kind of guy. He is Lawful Good of the Paladin variety. He is more likely to side with the Seven against us if we draw his attention.
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We should probably just drop it.
A lot of the regulars are particularly irritated right now, and when people get into this state further debate just cements them against you.
Considering this happens every time Bahamut gets mentioned in some fashion besides derision and hatred, I imagine that any sort of positive interaction with him is pointless to attempt OOC.
QMs might throw us a bone and have him show up at some point, but until then unfortunately nothing will come of this.
We have literally done that for every god. Why is there such aversion to approch bahumut. It feels like there is some thing i am missing or not but can gods even approch us like that. Because we usually have to go to a temple or talk to a priest to contact a god. Sonit might not even be possible for him to approch us.
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If we ever get enough time to pull it off, I want to collect around 1500 HD of Daemons and Deep Ones to grow a Weirwood Heart Tree with a triple Invoke the Cerulean Sign effect. I am hoping the Old Gods will get the hint and boost the range to cover the city as a whole. It wouldn't guard against Daemons, but Deep Ones at a minimum wouldn't be able to approach without being murdered.
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No, stun is the highest setting.
HD is less than CL - 10: Stunned
HD is less than CL - 5: Dazed
HD is less than CL: Nauseated
HD is less than CL +5: Sickened
The effects of this spell are stacking. For example, an aberration with 11 HD less than your caster level is Stunned for 1 round, dazed for 2, nauseated for 3, and sickened for 4, all starting at the same time.
DkArthas
CAPITAL IS TO BLAME
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Yeah. For some reason the poor dude is more hated than Rh'lor, who has actually been asshole to us.
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We are not in mortal peril and bondage, and are doing better than 99% of planetos.
What do you mean if?
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Wait. Seriously? Have I been missing this the entire time?
Damn it. I was so sure there was a Kill option in there.
