Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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I agree with the priestess in that lets just give him lots of love and attention in general, only think about magic if his condition takes a turn for the worst since overly relying on it would be a poor idea, especially in WHF.

We are highest noble in the province so we can easily provide a safe environment, around-the-clock care, plenty of good healthy meals, etc to help naturally improve his overall constitution as he gets older. Just a little magic from jade wizards to check health and maybe have him wear the Light of Summer most days to give constant passive health boosts but don't think calling the Jade college is totally needed. If he had been born with a much more serious medical condition maybe but being born small doesn't mean he won't live a long and good life if treated right.

That's my take on it at least.
 
[Son] Duglas
[Daughters] GM Choice

After his uncle Urgdug.
Lucian would be good too after freddy favorite human brother.
 
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While it isn't anywhere to the same degree, wasn't Fred also weak and scrawny compared to his brothers? If anything this might be a chance him to get him to speak up about his upbringing to his kids.

Maybe reassure everyone that even the weaker people can grow beyond what's initially assumed. Especially if they're Hohenzollerns.
 
ChaoStaxx said:
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While it isn't anywhere to the same degree, wasn't Fred also weak and scrawny compared to his brothers? If anything this might be a chance him to get him to speak up about his upbringing to his kids.

Maybe reassure everyone that even the weaker people can grow beyond what's initially assumed. Especially if they're Hohenzollerns.
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nope can't find anything about that.

We we're just the family athiest.
 
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Kind of hoping that the son will turn out alright. While he may be frail now, I do think we have the tools necessary to help him surmount this. Others have already given examples of people who have been born weak and later went on to live healthy, if not become strong themselves lives. The only reason we should need to contact the Jade College is if his health is seriously threatened.
 
Nervos Belli said:
Depends on if any of them awaken to any magic I suppose. I don't know if granddaughter of an Ice Mage is enough to give one a chance, but I wouldn't rule it out. Plus in a magic soaked family like the Hohenzollerns any of the winds could show up. Would be cool to have a Jade Wizard granddaughter, since that's the school we're probably on the best terms with.

Of course, if the reputation of magic improves enough, by the time Magnus dies or steps aside, the Empire might tolerate mages as Elector-Counts. Probably not, but it could be interesting.
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torroar said:
Nah. Not gonna happen.
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To expand upon this:
-Two major electors, the cults of Sigmar and Ulric don't trust magic. A Witch getting elected Emperor is likely to have them BOTH unite for a change(likely on the charge that they controlled the other Electors with magic). That's civil war of the worst sort, electors vs cults.

-Wizards and Priests owe their ultimate loyalties, not to their province, family or Empire. They owe it to their College and their gods. I.e. both of them would make terrible temporal authorities.

-While they are a great deal more stable than Psykers, Wizards and Priests are marked by the magic they practice. This mutates them and alters their minds over time. This is not a good way to inspire trust.
spudman said:
Teddy Roosevelt was a sickly child with severe asthma in his youth. He exercised and worked through it. Starting out feeble doesn't mean this child has to stay that way.

We may not be able to do anything about the shortness, though. But then again, lots of good food (he'll need it if he's exercising) will get him to grow as much as he can.
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Also given the typical Hohenzollen motivation level...being small is going to light a fire under his ass to compensate.

I mean, hell, look at Magnus's own issues. He never quite felt himself to be living up to the family legacy, he worked himself to the bone and then kept working to be worthy. His siblings are all geniuses and leaders in their domains.

This kid is going to get all that and more.
Alectai said:
Yeah, TBH, just him being smol doesn't make him wrong, it just means that he's not going to be a front line killblender like most of the rest of the family is, and that's fine.

Nobody told Edward Elric that because he was smol he couldn't be a protagonist!
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Well some people told him that.
He kicked their ass.
Prince Sheo said:
I'm not 100% sure, but isn't Ostland's succession laws agnatic-cognatic primogeniture? So the male heir gets priority and only a female heir is chosen when there isn't a male heir to inherit, I'm pretty sure that's the case. So we could have his eldest daughter be heir but that would probably mean disinheriting him, which would be a really shitty thing to do to the poor guy.
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From what I can tell there isn't a standard(the Empire is a lot more gender equal than the RL equivalent), just:
-Not a priest
-Not a witch
-Not insane or otherwise unfit
So as triplets, any of the trio are equally fit to inherit.

Inner CK2 Eugenicist aside, I don't really see a problem with him inheriting eventually.
 
[X] Daughter 1 Yevdokiya
[X] Daughter 2 Maria
[X] Son 1 Luthor

Yevdokiya, name of Regiment Commander of the Night Witches. This could be considered as Magnus honoring his Kislev side of the family.

Maria, also part of the Night Witches.

Luthor, I really really really really REALLY like warrior priests and Luthor Huss is my favorite...


Edit: Y'all don't worry so much. Born sickly yet grows strong!
 
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My younger brother came out tiny compared to his twin sister, because she grew so big faster as to both absorb more nutrients as well as "strangle" his umbilical cord due to how they were positioned. But it turned out he had very dense bones, and while he did wind up as a short adult, it wasn't because of that. So I'd say just raise him well and see what happens.
 
Guys, why is everyone looking at our smol boi's frailty as a con? No. We must nurture this trait and manipulate the festering inferiority he is bound to feel eventually into a raging hatred for everything in this continent that walks.

We should name him Napoleon.

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veekie said:
From what I can tell there isn't a standard(the Empire is a lot more gender equal than the RL equivalent), just:
-Not a priest
-Not a witch
-Not insane or otherwise unfit
So as triplets, any of the trio are equally fit to inherit.

Inner CK2 Eugenicist aside, I don't really see a problem with him inheriting eventually.
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I may be wrong but I do remember something about succession laws in the empire and how they are different. Like how the moot is electoral, talabecland and stirland are absolute primogeniture, and that Westerland (before turning into a merchant republic), Drakwald and Sylvania were Cognatic Primogeniture. And the rest were Agnatic-Cognatic primogeniture.

I'm not exactly sure where I'm remembering this though. Maybe it's just something I've thought about before plus a bit of playing Geheimnisnacht. So take it with a grain of salt
 
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Prince Sheo said:
I may be wrong but I do remember something about succession laws in the empire and how they are different. Like how the moot is electoral, talabecland and stirland are absolute primogeniture, and that Westerland (before turning into a merchant republic), Drakwald and Sylvania were Cognatic Primogeniture. And the rest were Agnatic-Cognatic primogeniture.

I'm not exactly sure where I'm remembering this though. Maybe it's just something I've thought about before plus a bit of playing Geheimnisnacht. So take it with a grain of salt
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Frankly i say screw the set succession rules and just put whoever ends up being best for the job amongst the kids as heir.

This kind of "Has to have this specific person as heir" is how you get blatant maniacs or extremely mentally disabled people on the throne.
 
ninjafish said:
Frankly i say screw the set succession rules and just put whoever ends up being best for the job amongst the kids as heir.

This kind of "Has to have this specific person as heir" is how you get blatant maniacs or extremely mentally disabled people on the throne.
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And not having a specific heir is how you get succession crises. And, at least the first time around, is a massive insult/snubbing of whoever the heir would have been.
 
[] Stephanie

Or: How to name a kid after a close family friend while avoiding name doubles.
Probably too late for the bandwagon but hey.

Edit: I see there were 3(still reading through the thread). Hrm...
torroar said:
Elector Count Joseph Hohenzollern (Father of Frederick Hohenzollern) - Slain in 2304 By Chaos Knights Dead
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torroar said:
"That's…no, that's impossible. I-he…they-I'm the tenth son!" you exclaim wildly. "Lucian should have been holding down Wolfenburg, he should be Elector Count even if every single one of my fighting brothers perished in the fight. What about Gertrude? She's older than me by five years, what about her? Is she not in the capital?"

By now you have picked out the telltale sigils of the Witch Hunters on the woman's clothing, but her look of honest regret is foreign to you. People in her profession rarely showed such a thing sincerely.

"I'm sorry my Count, but the Order of the Silver Hammer has failed you."

Your eyes narrow.

"What…are you talking about?"

She does not avert her eyes this time.

"Your sister Gertrude is dead. Lucian is dead. Those of your family within Wulfenburg's walls have been slain. They were found in their rooms…the symbols of Chaos drawn out in their blood upon the walls. You are the last of the Hohenzollern…my Count."
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[] Josephine
[] Lucian
[] Gertrude
EditEdit No voting yet, kk.

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[X] Daughter 1 (Josephine)
[X] Daughter 2 (Gertrude)
[X] Son 1 (Lucian)
 
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