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Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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Something to note, we reached a four-dot negative relationship with the 'outer sect disciples' in under a year.

As such, it is quite reasonable to believe that we can reach a four dot positive relationship with other factions or subfactions in general - such as soldiers under our command, or the guards of wherever we build our home, or sub-units of the Imperial Army.

The reroll's requirements before it can be used aren't the best, but they certainly aren't the worst.
 
Raising Kittens said:
Something to note, we reached a four-dot negative relationship with the 'outer sect disciples' in under a year.

As such, it is quite reasonable to believe that we can reach a four dot positive relationship with other factions or subfactions in general - such as soldiers under our command, or the guards of wherever we build our home, or sub-units of the Imperial Army.

The reroll's requirements before it can be used aren't the best, but they certainly aren't the worst.
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Dots with the sect and the outer disciples as a whole isn't the same as the per character dots. The latter represents how Ling Qi views the relationship while the former is an OOC indication of what reputation we have with a given group.

Also classifying "fearful respect" as a negative relationship is kinda missing the point.
 
Raising Kittens said:
Something to note, we reached a four-dot negative relationship with the 'outer sect disciples' in under a year.

As such, it is quite reasonable to believe that we can reach a four dot positive relationship with other factions or subfactions in general - such as soldiers under our command, or the guards of wherever we build our home, or sub-units of the Imperial Army.

The reroll's requirements before it can be used aren't the best, but they certainly aren't the worst.
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Also, negative doors are massively easier to gain than positive dots.

We have 3 does of relationship with Xiulan. We have FOUR with the Sun princess.
 
PrimalShadow said:
Also, negative doors are massively easier to gain than positive dots.

We have 3 does of relationship with Xiulan. We have FOUR with the Sun princess.
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To be fair, Xiulan didn't impale us, break our flute and later ambushed us with intent to harm causing some mental trauma. I think she's one of the lower profile friends of ours in terms of crazy shit we've done together?
 
Black Noise said:
Dots with the sect and the outer disciples as a whole isn't the same as the per character dots. The latter represents how Ling Qi views the relationship while the former is an OOC indication of what reputation we have with a given group.

Also classifying "fearful respect" as a negative relationship is kinda missing the point.
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We may want to think of these relationships categorically rather than positive or negative. Fear may be negative, but respect is not.
On another note Fear and respect are far easier to attain than love (phileo) and trust.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Kian on Jun 7, 2018 at 11:53 AM, finished with 62897 posts and 130 votes.
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Erebeal said:
You're raising the idea that this is a purely mechanical choice with no meaning beyond that? Not impossible I guess, though not what I'd have thought.

@yrsillar are the two domain effects here actually different interpretations of the AM ideal? Or are they purely mechanical alternatives?

Also, (if they are meaningful) would it be possible for you to give us a qualitative description of the differences in the ideas we're internalising? Or was that something you were wanting to leave up to us to interpret?
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It does offer some small variation, the reroll leans into making your domain a thing of self reflection, helping those within face their problems. The perception dice lean more toward external defense of the home, preventing your threshold from being invaded by those with false or malignant intentions. They both conform to the original 'seed' of your domain, and the lesson can change as you add to your domain and grow, or rather, your understanding of said lesson will change with the further context of other elements added.

That isn't to say that Argent Mirror doesn't make certain avenues more difficult. A disguise art or an art focused on theatrical performance, for example, would probably not mesh well with it, given the themes, though it wouldn't be impossible, since this is still early days. You're a long way from your domain becoming 'set' as it were

Arkeus said:
OK, I am going to assume @yrsillar had the change to the Horror be retroactive as I have received no response to the opposite. As such, Horror has its own tab in the combat specs now.
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Sorry, yes the changes are retroactive.
 
[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi and Allies of at least four dots positive relation within one hundred meters may reroll a failed perception test once per combat or scene.
 
Well, that changes things.

[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi and Allies of at least four dots positive relation within one hundred meters may reroll a failed perception test once per combat or scene.
 
[ ] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[ ] Ling Qi and Allies of at least four dots positive relation within one hundred meters may reroll a failed perception test once per combat or scene.

That's a good interpretation, yes. Let's go with it then!

EDIT: Changed my mind on further thought, back to where I was.

[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi receives a four die bonus when attempting to discern lies or see through illusions.
 
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[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi and Allies of at least four dots positive relation within one hundred meters may reroll a failed perception test once per combat or scene.
 
[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi and Allies of at least four dots positive relation within one hundred meters may reroll a failed perception test once per combat or scene.
 
[X] Discard this realization

Seems like a bad idea given the need for courtly intrigue that's supposed to be in our wheelhouse, unless we like the thought of having to rapidly pivot in terms of our cultivation direction.​
 
[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi and Allies of at least four dots positive relation within one hundred meters may reroll a failed perception test once per combat or scene.
 
Themarically I dislike the reroll. Our home should be a safe haven that our family feels comfortable in, not a place that forces self-reflection on others. Such homes are so uncomfortable.
 
yrsillar said:
It does offer some small variation, the reroll leans into making your domain a thing of self reflection, helping those within face their problems. The perception dice lean more toward external defense of the home, preventing your threshold from being invaded by those with false or malignant intentions. They both conform to the original 'seed' of your domain, and the lesson can change as you add to your domain and grow, or rather, your understanding of said lesson will change with the further context of other elements added.

That isn't to say that Argent Mirror doesn't make certain avenues more difficult. A disguise art or an art focused on theatrical performance, for example, would probably not mesh well with it, given the themes, though it wouldn't be impossible, since this is still early days. You're a long way from your domain becoming 'set' as it were
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Now this is the kind of information players need to make an actually informed choice. Please try to be more considerate in future votes @yrsillar, most of us can't read your notes...
 
yrsillar said:
It does offer some small variation, the reroll leans into making your domain a thing of self reflection, helping those within face their problems. The perception dice lean more toward external defense of the home, preventing your threshold from being invaded by those with false or malignant intentions.
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I think you made a mistake here. You talk twice about the re roll and never about the flat dice option.
 
Katreus said:
Themarically I dislike the reroll. Our home should be a safe haven that our family feels comfortable in, not a place that forces self-reflection on others. Such homes are so uncomfortable.
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Kinda fits with what LQ tends to do though. Like with Xiulan just this update. When you got super powered people running around in your home some self reflection might help alot.
 
yrsillar said:
It does offer some small variation, the reroll leans into making your domain a thing of self reflection, helping those within face their problems. The perception dice lean more toward external defense of the home, preventing your threshold from being invaded by those with false or malignant intentions. They both conform to the original 'seed' of your domain, and the lesson can change as you add to your domain and grow, or rather, your understanding of said lesson will change with the further context of other elements added.
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Well in that case...

[X] Internalize Argent Mirror
-[X] Ling Qi receives a four die bonus when attempting to discern lies or see through illusions.

Good to know that this really was the proactive protecting of our home option. That's basically gonna be a our job description working with CRX. And I don't really understand people's complaints about our job being reflected in our domain. Considering our domain already has to do with Home, I don't see anything wrong with nudging things a little more heavily in that direction.
I can never make up my mind with votes like this. Either way voting to discard seems like a waste when it's pretty far behind.
 
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