Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

What you call "filler" some people call "story".

I'm much more interested in how our relation with Suyin will develop than seeing a fistfulls of dice for an other fight scene.
 
I'm quite fine with the pace as it is. Also builds up excitement towards the tournament.
What build up? What excitement? Half the problem right now is that the quest isn't building up to the tournament and is rather just grinding along tediously.

What you call "filler" some people call "story".

I'm much more interested in how our relation with Suyin will develop than seeing a fistfulls of dice for an other fight scene.
And yrsillar is going to show us that (if any significant further development was planned this year). By giving him greater control and the freedom to focus on those parts he should be able to do such development better.
 
Im not concerned with chars not getting any screentime in the accelerated version. Yrsillar has asyured us of his best intentions and best efforts when he picks our minors.

I doubt we will be lacking for cool stuff or cute stuff and we wont miss out on shinies.


The big advantage of the accelerated version is that it allows us to make a cohesive training plan for the next few weeks in which we can specify our tournament goals and wirk deficated towards them.

This is a huge improvement from planing from week to week under shifting majorities and prevents a rushed, splintered and, worst of all, unfinished built.

Paying the price of having a fairly benevolent QM, who knows us and knows what we want, and wants everybody to have fun, to pick the slice of life elements that feature along the way is a good bargain for advanced planning ability.

(Cutting down some downtime because of the voting periods falling away etc., and thus slightly speeding up updates irl is another cool, if minor bonus. I like updates.)


Those are my reasons for voting accelerate.
 
The current pacing is slow and I don't expect us to even make it to the start of the tournament before another month or two passes IRL if it continues.

Do people really care that much about filler scenes?
Month or two would be incredibly optimistic. We're at the beginning of week 44 in game and early April irl. Week 36, or 8 weeks ago started in December. That's more than 4 months irl, though it did include the Yan Renshu raid.
 
What you call "filler" some people call "story".

I'm much more interested in how our relation with Suyin will develop than seeing a fistfulls of dice for an other fight scene.
Accelerating will still see our relationship develop, it just won't be as bogged down in great but superfluous scenes that drag the overall story down. I am a big believer in "now that you have finished your story, cut 30% of it to see what is actually important and tighten the flow", but lately FoD has been 'add 50%' instead.

It's come to the point where even though a ton constantly happens it feels like nothing does.
 
What you call "filler" some people call "story".

I'm much more interested in how our relation with Suyin will develop than seeing a fistfulls of dice for an other fight scene.
Those people would be wrong, Yrsillar has already told us what the accelerated version would do and that we can vote for characters to get more screen time.

Month or two would be incredibly optimistic. We're at the beginning of week 44 in game and early April irl. Week 36, or 8 weeks ago started in December. That's more than 4 months irl, though it did include the Yan Renshu raid.
Ah so even worse then I feared.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Arkeus on Apr 13, 2018 at 8:07 AM, finished with 312 posts and 106 votes.
 
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I enjoy the current pace and don't mind too much that the scenes are mostly filler, as I'm reading it to pass the time along with other stories on the slower parts of my job, but I woudln't mind if accelerate wins.
 
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Why cut away the part I'm enjoying?!
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And yrsillar is going to show us that (if any significant further development was planned this year). By giving him greater control and the freedom to focus on those parts he should be able to do such development better.

Im not concerned with chars not getting any screentime in the accelerated version. Yrsillar has asyured us of his best intentions and best efforts when he picks our minors.

I doubt we will be lacking for cool stuff or cute stuff and we wont miss out on shinies.

Accelerating will still see our relationship develop, it just won't be as bogged down in great but superfluous scenes that drag the overall story down. I am a big believer in "now that you have finished your story, cut 30% of it to see what is actually important and tighten the flow", but lately FoD has been 'add 50%' instead.

It's come to the point where even though a ton constantly happens it feels like nothing does.

That's why
 
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I agree the pace has been lagging a bit, and I think I would enjoy seeing how yrs writes the character arcs sans the more granular minor votes.
 
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I'm curious what yrsillar has planned.
 
All thats left is voting on the unimportant stuff while quickrunning the important stuff.

Could you rephrase or expand on that? I dont quite get your critique.

Edit: i guess you are afraid of minors being waysided and pure mechanics taking the center role.

I doubt that. For one purely mechanical progress posts dont have much "meat" to them and would need to be padded, which is what we want yrs to cut down on. Interaction with people and developing relationships will always be a main focus of the story.

Instead of that i actually think that we will learn more about our friends because with yrs picking the minors, he can be sure that he will pick a char in succrssive weeks allowing for mini char arcs.

That we could observe character growth instead of another week of checking in and catching up.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Rhydarson on Apr 13, 2018 at 9:35 AM, finished with 325 posts and 114 votes.
 
The big advantage of the accelerated version is that it allows us to make a cohesive training plan for the next few weeks in which we can specify our tournament goals and wirk deficated towards them.
Pretty sure that is wrong, and we would still be voting 1 week at a time in either case. The choice is just about cutting some less relevant character scenes.
 
I'm rather annoyed at this whole back and forth subjective interpretation nonsense. @yrsillar can you please clarify what you meant, because I've seen at least five different interpretations of what this even means, on top of my own.

Blah, I know I'm putting you on the spot here and I apologize for that but this is just kinda silly.
 
Pretty sure that is wrong, and we would still be voting 1 week at a time in either case. The choice is just about cutting some less relevant character scenes.
He said we'd have one single build vote to follow for the rest of the tournament preparation, and another vote for which character relationships we'd like to prioritize.

Edit: ok, his exact words are actually a bit ambiguous.
 
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He said we'd have one single build vote to follow for the rest of the tournament preparation, and another vote for which character relationships we'd like to prioritize.
I disagree.
you will get to vote for training plans, and I will choose minors myself to move along the remaining plot threads we still have at this point to write between the dice rolls and such.
Notice how "training plans" is plural? That is inconsistent with your interpretation.

Furthermore, saying "you will get to vote for training plans, and I will choose minors myself" sounds like the change is strictly on the side of the minors.
 
Could you rephrase or expand on that? I dont quite get your critique.

Edit: i guess you are afraid of minors being waysided and pure mechanics taking the center role.

I doubt that. For one purely mechanical progress posts dont have much "meat" to them and would need to be padded, which is what we want yrs to cut down on. Interaction with people and developing relationships will always be a main focus of the story.

Instead of that i actually think that we will learn more about our friends because with yrs picking the minors, he can be sure that he will pick a char in succrssive weeks allowing for mini char arcs.

That we could observe character growth instead of another week of checking in and catching up.
Considering the actual training votes are the most boring part...*Shrug*
Its undermining a strength of the story to shore up a weakness inherent in the xianxia genre.

You don't actually see any enthusiasm for getting lots of specific training time, but people are willing to burn training if it means meeting the right Minors, so net conclusion:
If folks vote for acceleration, you will get to vote for training plans, and I will choose minors myself to move along the remaining plot threads we still have at this point to write between the dice rolls and such. I will still give you guys input on which characters get the screentime though. You may also vote for your talisman as you can during all voting periods.
I'm strongly hoping the screentime vote is completely independent of training plan vote(as in, in separate voting phases) if we accelerate, because this is going to be heart and center of the incoming thread salt, and it is expected to leave nobody happy with the outcome when expressed in this manner.

People feel strongly about the minors, and we're working harder to pack them in than the thread in general give a damn about the training plan(see for instance how bad training plans can pass anyway, if not for a sustained protest and alternatives containing the right minors, we're perfectly happy to dump good training plans if their minor combo is bad)
 
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