Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Original Fantasy
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Give Ling Qi one of the badass adornments
It fits the moon cultivator theme, its bladed and no one expects the bling to come off and cut their faces.
It fits the moon cultivator theme, its bladed and no one expects the bling to come off and cut their faces.
Black Noise
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I'd prefer this option:
[ ][Talisman] Mystery Box Domain weapon
-[ ] Use Umbral Shard, Dexterity+Expression, Darkness
-[ ] Properties up to GM to make narratively appropriate and powerful
Alternatively:
[ ][Talisman] Murder spike thing
-[ ] Use Umbral Shard, Dexterity+Expression, Darkness
-[ ] All damage is semipefect
-[ ] ignores armor (high AP if fully ignoring isn't possible)
-[ ] damage repeats next turn
If we want out flying sword to be the one thing we absolutely murder things with after our debuffs are in place.
[ ][Talisman] Mystery Box Domain weapon
-[ ] Use Umbral Shard, Dexterity+Expression, Darkness
-[ ] Properties up to GM to make narratively appropriate and powerful
Alternatively:
[ ][Talisman] Murder spike thing
-[ ] Use Umbral Shard, Dexterity+Expression, Darkness
-[ ] All damage is semipefect
-[ ] ignores armor (high AP if fully ignoring isn't possible)
-[ ] damage repeats next turn
If we want out flying sword to be the one thing we absolutely murder things with after our debuffs are in place.
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Copy off Sailor Moon?Give Ling Qi one of the badass adornments
It fits the moon cultivator theme, its bladed and no one expects the bling to come off and cut their faces.
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This would be a fantastic ability, effectively increasing our damage by 50%, for a single slot. Do you know if it's allowed? 50% bonus damage for one slot seems pretty cheap.
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Truly, Forge of Destiny is Kung Fu Mean Girls.
Truly, Forge of Destiny is Kung Fu Mean Girls.
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The thing is, @yrsillar, you could do the same analysis for FSA. Once we get our buffs rolling we have more defensive dice than it does, and its AP and bonus damage are largely countered by HRA (as it should be).
If people like Xiulan don't have offensive buffs they can stack they can't really do much damage to us. They'll just be like the dragon.
To hurt a heavily buffed tank you need good heavily buffed offensive arts. The question we must ask here is why should a flying weapon be able to compete with that? If a flying weapon sans arts can hit as hard as a mastered attacking art with good synergistic passives and gear, and bolstered with multiple buffs, isn't that a bit ridiculous?
If people like Xiulan don't have offensive buffs they can stack they can't really do much damage to us. They'll just be like the dragon.
To hurt a heavily buffed tank you need good heavily buffed offensive arts. The question we must ask here is why should a flying weapon be able to compete with that? If a flying weapon sans arts can hit as hard as a mastered attacking art with good synergistic passives and gear, and bolstered with multiple buffs, isn't that a bit ridiculous?
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Black Noise
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Note that it's a tradeoff because there's no bonus damage or bonus dice/debuffs. The weapon is (intentionally) similar to HC because it plays to the strengths of our debuff build*, and because FSS kinda has the same anti blood/qi theme as the shard so it's at least thematically appropriate.
* Where others have to rely on high bonus damage to deal enough dps, our debuffs allow for a massive atk/def dice gap in our favor after a few turns of initial setup (unless we're outclassed in a fight).
I suggest you get you design approved by the GM before asking people to vote for it.
Black Noise
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Well my actual preference on the matter would be for yrs to make up something suitably useful for the tournament and with room for growth in the no-more-combat-mechanics future, but sure.
@yrsillar any of these problematic?
@yrsillar any of these problematic?
3 properties, basically a flying HC that targets p.def, doesn't come with (future) bonus damage, and presumably has slightly better DV/AP.
Same on my end, personally
Frankly I wouldn't mind binning them now. We've clearly outgrown them, so I'm not sure what keeping them around is supposed to achieve.
Just how powerful are these abilities allowed to be? "Infinite AP" and "all damage is semi perfect"? Can I have "all qi spent to negate damage from this weapon is refunded to Ling Qi", or "on hit cuts enemy defense dice by 25%?" How about "double all qi drain?"
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You won't get infiinite AP, it'll just get high AP damage being semi perfect I have to decide on.
getting a qi refund power is possible. No percentage debuffs though.
Just give me a general framework of what you want like
high ap, qi refund or debuff on hit, don't get into the exact details because apparently I need to rebalance flying swords still
getting a qi refund power is possible. No percentage debuffs though.
Just give me a general framework of what you want like
high ap, qi refund or debuff on hit, don't get into the exact details because apparently I need to rebalance flying swords still
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Won't you be using our narrative strength to figure out how many dice to give our opponents in many cases, though?
Much is being made about the "theme" issue.
To dispense with the assumptions, does spending a slot on an ability like "qi drain" for our sword make that drain more powerful than spending a slot on a "qi drain" ability would be on a sword without the umbral shard?
Edit: Also, if "damage repeats on next turn" is allowed, I would expect everyone to take it, for the cost of only one ability slot with no downsides. Double Damage is pretty sweet.
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It would only invalidate work that people put into planning for specific numbers. Presumably, you would still maintain the general strengths of the arts, so the intent of our choices would have been preserved.
And in any case, like @George said, things are getting left up to your discretion anyways, since you are determining appropriate dice totals for our opponents.
So frankly, a combat mechanics rework here (going from an explicit mechanical format to a narrative one) doesn't bother me. I feel like maybe it might bother some people, so your worries are well-founded, but perhaps fewer than you would expect.