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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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primemountain said:
The stat lines disagree with you. Battle Wizards aren't a match to Dragon Ogres in combat. Mat isn't a Battle Wizards. Neither are knights, or Greatswords.

A Greatsword Champion would likely lose a 1v1 with a Dragon Ogre. The items and spells might, might, compensate. We'll kill him by bleeding on him and sending back double his blows back.

Seriously, most human models are wound 1, attack 1. That thing is wound 4, attack 3. We are proficient with great swords, so probably Weapon Skill 3 with them. I would guess that if we had completed our advanced Great swords Training, we would have WS 4. Either that, or we are already WS 3(default for Greatswords, but they are the best of the best), and advanced would have given us a second attack, like a Champion.

The gun helps, somewhat, but it would still probably be a dangerous fight.

Keep in mind, a full Battle Wizard still only has 2 Wounds.

You know what? @BoneyM I do not at all envy you the job of coming up with a stat line for Mathilde.
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TT isn't very good when it comes to heroes. It's the basest of base.

A Dragon Ogre shouldn't be able to beat hundreds of ghouls and a ghoul king either. But we did with a bit of light.

Besides, I think you're underestimating just how valuable the mind-affecting, distraction based spells can be in a fight.
 
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in a general battle maybe but we didnt kill the ghoul king alone and on crit roll.

This is straight one v one sofar and our chance of soloing that comes mainly from a freaking rune and the fact that we have the healing item to exploit it more or less .Wich seems kinda stupid strategy that our death or mortal wound would kill the enemy but thanks to the item it seems kind of viable doesnt make it a great idea.

i still think we should go check the port and the underway entrance to it and report the dragon ogre to the dwarfs.If they are worried then we could offer to check thunder mountain aswell since they might be a threat to the supply line of sorts long term since the clearing of k8p is gonna take awhile.
 
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primemountain said:
The stat lines disagree with you. Battle Wizards aren't a match to Dragon Ogres in combat. Mat isn't a Battle Wizards. Neither are knights, or Greatswords.
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I don't necessarily agree with you on the rest of the post, but that line is not a good argument against what I wrote. So, suppose we really have no chaince in combat (going by WFRP stats we've got an upper hand actually even without magic items, though it's still risky). Still, there is a big difference between losing a battle if we get into one and certain death. We're a top notch stealth scout: much better at it than your average Dragon Ogre. If we don't want to fight one, we will get away.

atrophy said:
in a general battle maybe but we didnt kill the ghoul king alone and this is straight one v one sofar and our chance of soloing that comes mainly from a freaking rune and the fact that we have the healing item to exploit it more or less.
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You really underestimate Pall of Darkness + Substance of Shadow + Mockery of Death combo.
 
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primemountain said:
Either that, or we are already WS 3(default for Greatswords, but they are the best of the best), and advanced would have given us a second attack, like a Champion.
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There was a WOG somewhere upthread, that basic (entry-level) greatsword has Martial 12 + greatsword proficiency. We have martial 19, so that probably translates either into A2 or WS4. We are better than normal greatsword. We also have (at least) T4 due to dwarven belt.
 
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LockedMind said:
There was a WOG somewhere upthread, that basic (entry-level) greatsword has Martial 12 + greatsword proficiency. We have martial 19, so that probably translates either into A2 or WS4. We are better than normal greatsword. We also have (at least) T4 due to dwarven belt.
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Basic entry level as in average?

I mean, the average Greatsword has WS4.
 
[X] It's moving away from the path the Expedition will take, that makes it no longer your problem. Get back on course and head for the port.

I think going by narrative rather than tabletop stats would be better.

I mean it's not like every Empire army brings along 2 steam tanks, 8 demigryphs, a battle wizard lord and only 40 halberds.

(That's a pretty standard tabletop lineup, the point being that you don't have a battle wizard lord for every 40 or 50 soldiers on the field so using tabletop stats shouldn't be done as more than a handy guideline especially considering how prone to change they are.)
 
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[X] It's moving away from the path the Expedition will take, that makes it no longer your problem. Get back on course and head for the port.

Now that we know it's either based at or attacking Thunder Mountain we don't need to tell the dwarves that "there might be dragon ogres.... somewhere. Maybe." We can give clear directions to the rangers. Thus, back to the port for now.
 
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Thunder Mountain is a lot closer to the expedition forces and thus is a higher priority for scouting - so long as we're not stuck there for days, we can go in, get some information, go back to report and head back out again while still having several full days before even the advance forces of the expedition get to the port.

It's worth checking the Mountain to see if the forces there are different than what was predicted; more likely to brave attacking and/or more likely to do actual damage when they do.

[X] Continue following it. It would be good to know where this creature calls home, and whether there are more of it.
 
[X] Continue following it. It would be good to know where this creature calls home, and whether there are more of it.

Yeah okay it'll take a while. We're the fastest scout in the expedition. We can afford to be a day late on a trip that would take anybody else weeks.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
@BoneyM
So, what caused the use of TT mechanics for that bit of conflict when not used earlier? Unless they were used in earlier conflicts and I just didn't read them.
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Because it fit. The tabletop rules aren't suited to large-scale warfare but it is appropriate for small skirmishes.

Besides that, I have a lot of nostalgia wrapped up in the tabletop, though I haven't played it since 2003 or so.

TalonofAnathrax said:

The update schedule is rather good anyway. It's what, an update every three days? I can live with a few slow updates for that! Even character development/slice-of-life!
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I think only once or twice has it been more than two days between updates. I aim to begin writing soon after 24 hours has passed since the last post.
 
[X] It's moving away from the path the Expedition will take, that makes it no longer your problem. Get back on course and head for the port.
 
[X] Continue following it. It would be good to know where this creature calls home, and whether there are more of it.

Rather do it now then spend a slot in a later week.
 
[X] It's moving away from the path the Expedition will take, that makes it no longer your problem. Get back on course and head for the port.​
 
BoneyM said:
Because it fit. The tabletop rules aren't suited to large-scale warfare but it is appropriate for small skirmishes.

Besides that, I have a lot of nostalgia wrapped up in the tabletop, though I haven't played it since 2003 or so.
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I'm not sure if you can tell us or not, but OOC, can Dragon Ogres receive mutations and blessings and Marks of Chaos?
 
[X] It's moving away from the path the Expedition will take, that makes it no longer your problem. Get back on course and head for the port.

Following it in the first place was an error.
 
[X] Continue following it. It would be good to know where this creature calls home, and whether there are more of it.
 
[X] It's moving away from the path the Expedition will take, that makes it no longer your problem. Get back on course and head for the port.
Adhoc vote count started by Barnes on Apr 8, 2018 at 5:20 PM, finished with 16318 posts and 71 votes.
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