[X] Approach in Supplication
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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Yes, I am aware of OotS. But let's not get too off topic.
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Given how close the Qi Ling and the dragon are in cultivation, would it be natural to just challenge him to ascertain their relation? Whoever loses becomes submissive.
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Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
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Okay, so... I think basically this vote is for whether we want to bet on our ability to control the battlefield, or our ability to social properly.
...No wonder so many people are choosing Approach in Strength. Ling Qi is very stealthy, but isn't great with subterfuge, is she? And she'd probably have to grovel hard since she's already stolen from him. Having to grovel like that would probably bring up bad memories for her.
[X] Approach in Strength
Yeah okay, let's do this. If we fail, then we can prostrate ourselves and grovel.
...No wonder so many people are choosing Approach in Strength. Ling Qi is very stealthy, but isn't great with subterfuge, is she? And she'd probably have to grovel hard since she's already stolen from him. Having to grovel like that would probably bring up bad memories for her.
[X] Approach in Strength
Yeah okay, let's do this. If we fail, then we can prostrate ourselves and grovel.
Arkeus
Crazy cat guy
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Both EPC and Revelry rolls were shown last update.
The nice thing about Approach in Strength is we can go "Yeah, I took your fruit. What of it?".
The not-nice thing is it's going to be pretty difficult, but I feel either approach is a gamble of a different sort.
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A little disappointed that Gu Tai's personality got a little swallowed by giving Ling Qi advice, but oh well. Yuzhao is a solid tease to him, and Verdant Ash Duality is excellent in all its parts. Though Zhengui has a lot of instants, so that's more likely to be his action bottlechoke than his noninstants.
Definitely should look into getting talismans for Zhengui though. Commissions will take a while so we should get on it. He'll make Late/Late, probably, but not third...so LQ and ZG mirror HJ and Hj.
[X] Approach in Strength
Definitely should look into getting talismans for Zhengui though. Commissions will take a while so we should get on it. He'll make Late/Late, probably, but not third...so LQ and ZG mirror HJ and Hj.
[X] Approach in Strength
I don't think he actually knows that she was the thief. His mom said that he was up in arms about being stolen from, sure, but I don't think he knows who to be angry at.
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Awesome update, I'm liking Gu Tai and think his Sun/Death spirit's awesome. As is the adorableness of our tutoring. Also that mission though, major Gravedigger Quest vibes.
We're unaware of if he yet knows we stole the fruit but it could tank any attempts at deference worse than just pride. Plus I'm up for seeing Ling Qi challenging herself.
[X] Approach in Strength
We're unaware of if he yet knows we stole the fruit but it could tank any attempts at deference worse than just pride. Plus I'm up for seeing Ling Qi challenging herself.
[X] Approach in Strength
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Right, I thought this was part 1.
[X] Approach in Strength
This would be a good test on how well we can exhaust opponents over time. Our build has been tentatively going towards that for a while now and we wouldn't suffer anything but a minor injuries and defeat since I bet the dragon has been cautioned against hurting the students just as much.
This would be a good test on how well we can exhaust opponents over time. Our build has been tentatively going towards that for a while now and we wouldn't suffer anything but a minor injuries and defeat since I bet the dragon has been cautioned against hurting the students just as much.
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[X] Approach in Strength
But don't needlessly escalate. The point of the contest is to work out the pecking order, not to damage either party. Fight with claws sheathed.
If we're stronger, great. If they're stronger, then we'll be expected to pay a higher tribute than if we came in as a supplicant in the first place. But he'll still be in a relatively good mood if we acknowledge his greater strength freely once proven.
But don't needlessly escalate. The point of the contest is to work out the pecking order, not to damage either party. Fight with claws sheathed.
If we're stronger, great. If they're stronger, then we'll be expected to pay a higher tribute than if we came in as a supplicant in the first place. But he'll still be in a relatively good mood if we acknowledge his greater strength freely once proven.
[X] Approach in Supplication
Literally all we know about the dragon is that he's 3rd realm and that his mother considers him arrogant and somewhat foolish. That does not mean he is weak, there are 8 stages in 3rd realm after all. His mother is almost certainly prism. Yes we got around him, but he almost certainly had significant maluses from being asleep.
Let's not be the arrogant Xianxia protagonist who charges in thinking they are superior.
If we trigger a fight (and if he's more than a level above us we probably will) from what I can tell we are basically hoping to hit him with enough debuffs to land a starlight elegy/despair of the lost (possibly via Spring's end aria and One with shadow), drain him to non-hostile and hope that doesn't count as harm to his mother.
OTOH if we beat the arrogance out of him his mother might like us more.
Literally all we know about the dragon is that he's 3rd realm and that his mother considers him arrogant and somewhat foolish. That does not mean he is weak, there are 8 stages in 3rd realm after all. His mother is almost certainly prism. Yes we got around him, but he almost certainly had significant maluses from being asleep.
Let's not be the arrogant Xianxia protagonist who charges in thinking they are superior.
If we trigger a fight (and if he's more than a level above us we probably will) from what I can tell we are basically hoping to hit him with enough debuffs to land a starlight elegy/despair of the lost (possibly via Spring's end aria and One with shadow), drain him to non-hostile and hope that doesn't count as harm to his mother.
OTOH if we beat the arrogance out of him his mother might like us more.
Unseelie
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Appreciate for a moment that within less than a year we went from "mortal stray" to "I don't want to fight the dragon, I might accidentally hurt him".
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[X] Approach in Strength
Going by Qingshe's words during our party, I'm pretty sure he knows the fruit was stolen (whether he recognises us as the thief is another matter).
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
[X] Approach in Supplication
Part of the issue is that if we assume he is exceedingly powerful, that doesn't necessarily make the decision any easier.
A dragon more powerful and capable than expected is not just more likely to resist our attempts to outlast his thrashing, but also more likely to demand exceedingly expensive gifts or see through and grow offended at our deception.
And the complete supplication would be a deception, because Ling Qi doesn't actually believe he's the most amazing thing she's ever seen.
She is polite and suitably deferential, yes, but that's very much not what the dragon demands.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
To be blunt, we can already tell he's not too far beyond us, simply by the fact that we could successfully steal one of his fruits from him.
If he was more than third stage or so, he'd have probably crushed us just from his autosuccesses. Even third stage would have been pushing it.
We can overcome a two success gap, especially if we play to our strengths, and we have a lot of ways to tire him out without so much as scratching his scales. Not a lot of Outer Sect Disciples are capable of the same.
If he was more than third stage or so, he'd have probably crushed us just from his autosuccesses. Even third stage would have been pushing it.
We can overcome a two success gap, especially if we play to our strengths, and we have a lot of ways to tire him out without so much as scratching his scales. Not a lot of Outer Sect Disciples are capable of the same.
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Ah, Mission Board renewal time?
Ling Qi, mass debuffer and buffer she is, will be popular. It's a good thing we chose to do rescue Xiulan and enforcers during Growing Pains, Gan Guangli's enforcer raid, and Gan Guangli's enforcer training; with Ling Qi's links to Cai's enforcers, she's guaranteed a batch of minions to play around with barring gross bias on the part of the tournament organizers.
Though, on that note.
- Cai, Bai, and Sun are guaranteed to be separated for this stage. The Sect wants them to pass, so they'll get no chance to gang up on one another to prevent any from participating in the finals
- Ling Qi is going to hate hate hate the format: if she's grouped with more than 1 of her friends, she'll have to decide who passes or fails.
- On the other hand, ~200 participants/8 groups = 25 people. Fairly sure I saw a few combat analyses saying that's the magic number of 2nd Realm people Ling Qi has to fight against before she even begins to be hurt. Unless she's up against a 3rd Realm, Ling Qi's got this round in the bag.
- Han Jian is desperately wishing he, Han Fang, and Xiulan won't be grouped together. If they are... Well, explosions in the arena are surely guarded against.
It's a pity Ling Qi didn't want to fight a giant angst monster, I'd have liked to see it.
Also, it really seems the tournament participants this year won't produce as much angst as last year's, I think? The spirits' madness mantra definitely spoke to the participants' desire to win and subsequent sharp fall into despair that isn't likely if they just expected to show off.
Exactly a parallel to Han Jian and Heijin! I do hope any of Zhengui's children won't give Ling Qi's children such lip...
- Domain abilities are only acquired by completing arts in the 3rd Realm. Thus, foundation arts for most families are likely to end in Early or Appraisal 3rd, to ensure as many of their members have their full suite as soon as possible. The older and more arrogant the family is, the more likely the foundation arts ends in Appraisal or later. Therefore, Meizhan and Sun Liling almost certainly already have their two base Domain abilities set.
- The three Argent Arts we have access to all seem to end immediately at Early 3rd Realm. I expect, then, that which two Argent Arts one decides to base their Domain upon will be the basis for their subsequent development. A melee bruiser like Ji Rong will probably choose Storm and Current, amplifying their melee abilities instead of spiritual defense; an archer probably would choose Mirror and Current, favoring counters to defenses instead of acquiring defense for themselves.
- On that note, though I doubt filling one's two base Domain slots with Argent Arts will lock people out of other arts, I expect going further than the first step of the Argent Way restricts the available Domain arts to arts that are balanced along the Yin/Yang, Eight Trigrams, and Sixty-Four Hexagrams axes. This is why Zhong Peng said people who use the Argent Arts don't use any other kind of arts.
- Lastly, "significant effort and certain rare resources?" Does the White Room count as "rare resources?"