Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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Uh wut? I don't remember that bit, as far as I know it was "Fu Xiang saves Ling Qi and when she approaches him to pay him back for his assistance he uses the favor on getting her to sabotage his competitors" I don't recall anything about that also helping Cai herself.
It seems more like showing us how Cai deals with subordinates having two conflicting "oaths" and criminal behaviour happening because "honor/debts demands it" or something.
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How did it help Cai? I'm voting to tell her but people seem to be taking it really lightly, this is admitting to the type of corruption that rots lofty goals like her's from the inside. This is most definitely not something she ought to support, since they ought to have been under her protection.
The proper punishment would be go to jail/stasis for a month. That's what y'all are voting for. Any less would be very much against the ideals and principles of fairness and justice Cai has continually espoused. That's what I'm expecting from a confession.
Yeah, my reaction to this whole thing is that we should stay far, far away from anything Cai related. Also that Ling Qi kind of sucks at intrigue if this display is enough to have her spilling her heart out to somebody.
[X] Remain silent, thank her sincerely for her trust.
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I'm kinda hoping that Qi might open up a bit about her issues regarding choices, and lack thereof, and how it translates into the difficulties she has making up her mind. It sounds like Renxian is probably the person most likely to be able to understand and possibly empathize, aside from Meizhen.
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On the other hand, you can't solve corruption by being ignorant to it either.
Yeah, it's really an ugly choice here. There's any sort of way that this could go either way, and I'm thinking it's going to be something resolved with dice regardless--hence why I'm strongly encouraging anyone with outstanding Omake Bonuses to pad the numbers.
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Three. Cai herself hold responsibility as well, due to her failure to control her intrigue subordinate.
Yes, worst case scenario is we get thrown into jail for a month because this causes Cai to snap, which then possibly triggers a new civil war as Meizhen rages at Cai and tries to free Ling Qin. My read of Cai, for what it's worth, is that is not the likely action that Cai will take. And this option is the only one that would let us be able to follow Cai in the future, IMO.
Maybe I'm misremembering then? I thought that Xiang had us target crafters that were likely to win so Cai's faction could get more people into the inner sect.
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If she wants to throwdown with Ling Qi right here...
And then get spanked by Meizhen.
This is a test for her on our behalf, too. Is she an unfeeling Lawful-Lawful judge like her mother?
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Xiang helped us when Sun was chasing us and in return Ling Qi offered a favor. He wanted Ling Qi to target those crafters solely because he wanted a better shot at getting into the inner sect. CRX and her faction did not play into it at all.
He even baited with Su Ling and Suyin having a better shot at it also if we did it.
It's not "if she wants to". Any less would be violating her ideals. She has to, or she can't claim any sort of right to rule fairly.
And I expect a Ling Qi who is willing to confess to go willingly.
[x] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
This can end poorly, but at the end of the day this is one way to determine the core nature of the Order CRX seeks to build. Also my understanding of xianxia is that a lot of the corruption in them involves the usage/abuse of favors, so her reaction to an instance of this should be informative.
This can end poorly, but at the end of the day this is one way to determine the core nature of the Order CRX seeks to build. Also my understanding of xianxia is that a lot of the corruption in them involves the usage/abuse of favors, so her reaction to an instance of this should be informative.
Why? I'm doubtful Ling Qi will rat him out as she views herself at fault for owing him a favor in the first place.
...this vote is very uncomfortable. I'm leaning towards confessing actually because of how uncomfortable it makes me feel though, because that would not equal what Cai went through to fulfil Qi's request. Like, I got second hand embarrassment blushes reading through the part where Qi asked for a secret. Not saying anything would flip me over onto not being Cai's vassal actually but then Cai would have taken a risk for nothing. Which would be awful.
I'm thinking about abstaining from this vote. I have too many feelings and they're all terrible.
I'm thinking about abstaining from this vote. I have too many feelings and they're all terrible.
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Again, that's he dilemma. Is she just like her mother? The Law is to be Obeyed, no matter what, no matter who, no matter when?
Or will she realize there are lesser evils? There laws made for humans need to be judged with a human view?
That absolutism you propose is complete bullshit. "Never compromise or can't claim the right to rule fairly"? That's ridiculous.
If she did let us off, I would lose a great deal of respect for her. A law made for humans should take into account the suffering we caused our targets. If anything, our punishment should be more severe than what Ji Rong got for allegedly skimming taxes. Our crime had victims, after all.
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Ah, too bad. Still, it's definitely worth the risk, since if it works out we get someone we can trust and follow, while if it fails we know the Cai route wasn't for us.
If we don't take it, then we're lying to Cai in a way that would make it hard to follow her, which to me cuts her route off completely.
And I like Gan too much for that.
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It would be hilarious if it ends up a repeat of Thuderdome but Sun and CRX vs Bai this time.
I dunno though. She could handle it lots of ways. If it's public that could cause problems for our clan's name. She could also make us pay reparations and FX could be pissed. Throwing us in jail is a possibility but I always thought that was a shitty way of handling things. This was someone she wants to trust manipulating her system for personal gain. She ought to stamp down on it.
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[x] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
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I hope so. Not sure how good a job of lying about it LQ could do though and I don't expect "no comment" to be taken well
There's a loooong gap between being like her mother and believing the Law only matters to people who aren't her friends. We really don't have any extenuating circumstances here...
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[x] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
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I'm totally willing to throw down with her if it comes to it.
Ling Qi was honor-bound to fulfill FX's request.
Ling Qi was honor-bound to fulfill FX's request.
The idea of this kind of major character-defining moment can be left hanging on the whims of dice annoys me even more than it terrifies me, tbh.