Not really? We went against the order she is trying to enforce so not really a favor for her side of things. Letting it go would be going against the very thing she is trying to enforce upon the outer sect. Between her ideals and Ling Qi she is never going to chose Ling Qi.
Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
- Thread starter yrsillar
- Start date
- Original Fantasy
- Location
- UK
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
Now I'm pretty sure it's just a coincidence, and I did vote for the art, but did anyone else notice how the, erm, 'sadistic' art was obtained, and then only a few updates later Ling Qi is enjoying tormenting subordinates with said art.
Pretty sure it's nothing, but I can't really remember any cases like this before, so maaaybe we should keep our eye out? Just in case.
Now I'm pretty sure it's just a coincidence, and I did vote for the art, but did anyone else notice how the, erm, 'sadistic' art was obtained, and then only a few updates later Ling Qi is enjoying tormenting subordinates with said art.
Pretty sure it's nothing, but I can't really remember any cases like this before, so maaaybe we should keep our eye out? Just in case.
The update mentions that it is due to frustration about failing to breakthrough. Vote for actually trying to do that and it will go away.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
- Location
- Florida
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
I'm interested in reciprocating Cai's show of trust. No matter how she responds, it'll help us get her measure, which was the point of doing this.
I'm interested in reciprocating Cai's show of trust. No matter how she responds, it'll help us get her measure, which was the point of doing this.
- Location
- Massholistan
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
There are consequences beyond simply not being allowed in her clique. You're advocating that we confess to a crime, and fuck over a powerful spymaster guy.
- Location
- Illinois
Except it's not that simple. This isn't just a case of 'Ling Qin did something bad, and is going to tell the girl who likes to think of herself as the police chief'. It's 'Ling Qin did something bad due to owing a major favor to Cai's subordinate, which said subordinate used to help Cai herself without her knowing'.
This choice is about letting us find out what kind of person Cai really is. What will be her response, and can we work with that? How will she react to subordinates acting in the shadows in a way that she would not approve of? Her response, or lack Thereof, will tell us all we need to know about her.
If she tosses Ling Qin in prison or gives her an overly harsh punishment, then we learn that she isn't a leader we'd be willing to follow, because she'd prove herself to be inflexible in a way that does not allow for intrigue to be of service to her.
And I personally find it unlikely that Ling Qin will get thrown in prison for this. She was acting in Cai's interest in the behalf of her appointed representative, and did so due to the obligation she owed Not!Kabuto. It would be unjust to punish her harshly when, by the rules of leadership, she is partially responsible for this as well.
Not to mention how many major allies would be alienated by such an action...
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I'm curious. What do you take as the right answer?
I can see Cai doing a number of things here. She could do nothing, and carry on without acting on our secret. Or, she could do some combination of the following:
A) She could eschew punishing the third crafter, who we framed.
B) She could demand that we make reparations to the two we screwed over, costing us financially.
C) She could publicly reveal that we were the culprit, getting us banned from the market.
D) She could withdraw her offer for us.
E) She could punish Fu Xiang.
That is what comes to mind, anyways.
So. What would you have her do?
People voting to confess: what do you think her reacting badly entails?
If you think the worst that will happen is she throws a hissy fit and withdraws her offer, then fine. I disagree, but the vote is justifiable under those assumptions.
But have you considered the possibility of more severe consequences?
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- Location
- United States
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
- Location
- Cyberspace
I think "confessing" is a very poor idea.
To be honest, I rather dislike how this minor turned out altogether. Okay learn about her home, then suddenly "give me a secret so I'll be your friend!"
That didn't feel like Ling Qi at all. She isn't someone's friend because she knows secrets about them.
That aside, those saying "oh, those who don't want Cai route, here's your chance to test her!' ... That's rather crudely manipulative of you.
And those saying "oh, she volunteered a big personal thing, Ling Qi must reciprocate"... What?
No seriously, what?
To be honest, I rather dislike how this minor turned out altogether. Okay learn about her home, then suddenly "give me a secret so I'll be your friend!"
That didn't feel like Ling Qi at all. She isn't someone's friend because she knows secrets about them.
That aside, those saying "oh, those who don't want Cai route, here's your chance to test her!' ... That's rather crudely manipulative of you.
And those saying "oh, she volunteered a big personal thing, Ling Qi must reciprocate"... What?
No seriously, what?
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I suspect that a (fair?) resolution here would be that we lose the pill income to the crafters as reparation. Are people okay with that?
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Aw, it feels like we got an extra load of adorable to push the GG interaction firmly into the positive. Yay breaking mooks but not breaking them to the point that they can't thank you for your time!
Too cute
So we'll still have that option then? If so, we need to get on it!
Ominous...
Nice to learn about Liming IC. Also that CRX apparently dislikes her mother's main supporter. Would that be because they're as much an extremist as her mother or maybe an unscrupulous felllow who simply knows a winning side when they see one.
Damn. That's pretty awesome. I can imagine it now though, Xi clan head saw someone build their kid a treehouse and went, "hold my beer".
Also confirmation that Meizhen was beaten out for abusively early cultivation start...
Poor CRX acts like she truly believes that's the same thing...
Damn, looks like we're going CRX route
Ooooh, here's the true test. Seeing how she reacts to this could make or break their friendship but like Ling Qi said, "friendship requires trust"
I do feel bad about FX though...
[x] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
- Location
- Illinois
E would likely be the best, but not in an overt way.
Cai means to be a leader, and the mistakes of a subordinate are also partly the mistakes of a leader. Xiang was the one who commanded this, and though Ling Qin was the one who carried it out, she did so due to favors that Cai's subordinate held, and which was used in a way that benefited Cai and her supporters.
So the best way I could see her acting would be to punish Xiang in a way that brings him back into line with her goals. Xiang was the instigator and direct subordinate to Cai, so that in turn means that Cai should act as though responsibility fell partly on herself as well, due to her failure to control her subordinate effectively.
But I'm honestly not sure how she'll react, I just believe that Cai's reaction is too important to see, and that keeping this a secret should bar us from the Cai route.
I don't want to follow a leader that we can't trust :/
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Yeah, we pushed her, so it's only fair to reciprocate. I suspect she suspects us at any rate, not many people have the ability to pull this off.
THAT BEING SAID.
If anyone has any omake bonuses to help pad any upcoming rolls. NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
THAT BEING SAID.
If anyone has any omake bonuses to help pad any upcoming rolls. NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
So it is complicated due to there being two people that CRX will have to punish. Even if we did it due to a favor it will make no difference as she has to make an example or she undermines her own rule.
Well yes we will see what kind of person CRX is... it is just that we have seen enough to accurately guess what that will be. You break the rules you do the time and you are no longer part of the click. The closest example is probably Ji Rong. They had no beef but then he went and broke the rules and she had him slapped down for a month.
People should be aware about what they are voting for because this is not a 'everything will become great by telling people stuff' not when the person is actively working against what happened and is a huge idealist about Justice and Order.
- Location
- Brazil
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
She can't do anything too harsh anyway, or she loses Meizhen.
Love those tropes.
She can't do anything too harsh anyway, or she loses Meizhen.
Ha! Finally!
Love those tropes.
Except we own the pill furnace.
Thinking about this, too.
- Location
- Florida
I'm thinking about it from the angle that Ling Qi isn't totally happy about what she did, basically demanded Cai spill private and personal information without a guarantee she'd accept her offer, ultimately ending in a rash action to come clean and solidify an opinion about Cai as a person. Sort of half guilty conscience and half calculated decision to gauge Cai's mindset. Not a fully rational decision, but it would be the fastest way to resolve Ling Qi's hesitance.
It's a gamble, but I'm okay with that.
- Location
- Inside my own head
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Admit to the deception about the market, apologize.
tbh if the quest was more freeform/I wasn't an idiot I'd probably have voted to rat on Fu Xiang without ever sabotaging anyone anyway
also while I could see Qi from the start of the story keeping the secret I think the voterbase is and has been too nice for that to fit....
fake edit: where allies are concerned at least
tbh if the quest was more freeform/I wasn't an idiot I'd probably have voted to rat on Fu Xiang without ever sabotaging anyone anyway
also while I could see Qi from the start of the story keeping the secret I think the voterbase is and has been too nice for that to fit....
fake edit: where allies are concerned at least
- Location
- The Beach
Probably suspects us more because of a lack evidence. Not just anyone could pulled that off.