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HousePet said:
Does it matter? It is a prototype ansible so that we can have high speed internet for the moon colony we don't have yet.
It isn't likely to finish this turn, and this doesn't stop us finishing it next turn.

(I'm personally hoping we can get another dice or three to spend the excess on, and also keen to have some emergency cash around in case there is an emergency.)
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Personally, I'm hoping to build up a healthy cash reserve to tide us over for the start of the Fifth Four Year Plan, potentially infusing some of it into the banking system to further charge up the civilian economy. I doubt we'll ever have many more dice than we do right now, but there will never be a shortage of places to put the money.
 
[X] Plan Repulsorplates Tiberium Spikes and Islands oh my
[X] Plan Portals, Repulsors and Projects
[X] Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects
[X] Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects, NTU Edition
[X] Plan Light on Labor
[X] Plan Levitating Up To Boston
Islands are my pet project, have been for a few turns.
 
In the vote count, something weird is going on between "Plan Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects" and "Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects." I'm not sure how to fix it and I have to leave too soon to do much about it right this minute. Sorry.
 
[X] Plan Repulsorplates Tiberium Spikes and Islands oh my

This has predeticve modelling which we have put off too long and it is costing us the longer we put it off (please see the nat 1 on vein mines last turn for a reason that delaying it is a bad idea)


1260/1265+25
[X] Plan Portals, Repulsors and Projects
Infra 5/5 85R +27
-[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 277/465 3 dice 45R 88%
-[X] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 7) 93/250 2 dice 40R 63%
HI 5/5+2 free 190R +34
-[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 143/275 1 die+1 AA 40R 67%
-[X] Second Generation Repulsorplate Factories 0/525 6 dice 150R 49%
LCI 4/4 120R +29
-[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 235/610 4 dice 120R 24%
Agri 6/6 30R +29
-[X] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 457/805 6 dice 30R 98%
Tiberium 7/7 160R +39
-[X] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 10+11) 36/315 3 dice 60R 54%
-[X] Red Zone Containment Lines (Stage 6) 54/180 2 dice 50R 95%
-[X] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/210 1 die 35R 10%
-[X] Coordinated Abatement Programs (Phase 2) 88/180 1 die 25R 63%
Orbital 7/7+2 free 200R +34
-[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1015 1 die 20R 96%
-[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/975 4 dice+ Erewhon 100R 0%
-[X] Hospital Bay 184/300 1 die 20R 39%
-[X] Spaceport Bay 0/295 3 dice 60R 42%
Services 4/4 315R +35
-[X] University Program Updates 234/250 1 15R 100%
-[X] Primitive Prototype Portal Construction 73/400 3 dice 300R 32%
Military 7/7+2 free 160R +31
-[X] Orca Wingmen Drone Deployment (Phase 2) 56/215 2 dice 40R 68%
-[X] GD-3 Deployment (Phase 1) 0/280 2 dice 20R 0%
-[X] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 2) (Phase 1) 0/300 1 die 20R 0%
-[X] Governor A Development 0/40 1 die 15R 100%
-[X] Island Class Assault Ship Deployment 0/135 1 die 25R 12%
-[X] Shark Class Frigate Shipyards (Seattle) 148/230 1 die 20R 65%
-[X] Modular Rapid Assembly Prototype Factory 0/265 1 dice 20R 0%
Bureau 4/4 +29 0R
-[X] Administrative Assistance (Fusion Plants ) 2 dice
-[X] Make Political Promises
--[X] Developmentalist: Complete both Library Enhancement Programs
-[X] Predictive Modeling Management 1 die

Free 6/6
2HI, 2 Orbital, 2 Mil
 
[X] Plan Name Here
[X] Plan Portals, Repulsors and Projects
[X] Plan Portals and Processors and Island Life:
[X] Plan Portals and Processors and Mad Science:
HousePet said:
Does it matter? It is a prototype ansible so that we can have high speed internet for the moon colony we don't have yet.
It isn't likely to finish this turn, and this doesn't stop us finishing it next turn.
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Portals are a potential victory condition. And it's going to take many projects to get Portals to a usable, practical state. The longer it takes us to finish this project, the longer we'll have to wait to get the follow up one, and the one after that, and the one after that.

Let's say we have to do this project and three more before Portals get where we want them to be. That's four projects total. If we take 4 turns to slowly complete each Portal project, then that's 16 turns total to do them all. (Plus the fixed amount of waiting times between being given each project.) Whereas if we prioritize working on Portals and take 2 turns to do each, that'll be only 8 turns total - an entire 2 years faster. Since it is a victory condition and we're racing the end of the world here, I'd say that makes reducing the wait for functional Portals more important than anything else.
 
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I've got a matched set of nearly identical plans here, which are focused around two things: Satisfying Derpmind's desire for 3-dice on Portals, giving Boston about 2/5ths of it's dice needed to finish, and doing a bunch of PS costing projects now rather than later.

[X] Plan Portals and Processors and Island Life:
-[X] Infrastructure 5/5 75R
--[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 277/465 2 dice 30R 34%
--[X] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 3) 27/150 1 die 25R 20%
--[X] Postwar Housing Refits (Phase 2) 33/150 2 dice 20R 89%

-[X] Heavy Industry 5/5 + 5 FD 130R
--[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 143/275 2 dice 40R 89%
--[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 5) 36/1805 8 dice 90R

-[X] Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 120R
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 235/610 4 dice 120R 24%

-[X] Agriculture 6/6 FD 40R
--[X] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 457/805 5 dice 25R 84%
--[X] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 203/230 1 die 15R 100%

-[X] Tiberium 7/7 200R
--[X] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/410 2 dice 70R 87%
--[X] Enhanced Harvest Tiberium Spikes 0/180 2 dice 40R 72%
--[X] Forgotten Experimentation 0/260 3 dice 90R 77%

-[X] Space 7/7 + 1 FD+E 180R
--[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1015 1 die 20R 96%
--[X] Hospital Bay 184/300 1 die+Erewhon 40R 81%
--[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/975 6 dice 120R 22%

-[X] Services 4/4 330R
--[X] Library Enhancement Programs 149/180 1 die 15R 100%
--[X] University Program Updates 234/250 1 AA die 15R 100%
--[X] Primitive Prototype Portal Construction 73/400 3 dice 300R 32%

-[X] Military 7/7 130R
--[X] Binary Propellant Exploration (Tech) 0/60 1 die 10R 92%
--[X] Orca Wingmen Drone Deployment (Phase 2) 56/215 1 die 20R
--[X] Stealth Disruptor Deployment 0/160 1 die 15R
--[X] Island Class Assault Ship Deployment 0/135 1 die 25R 12%
--[X] Shark Class Frigate Shipyards (Seattle) 148/230 1 die 20R 65%
--[X] Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Deployment 0/240 2 dice 40R 7%

-[X] Bureaucracy 4/4
--[X] Administrative Assistance 2 dice auto (Space)
--[X] Predictive Modeling Management 1 die auto
--[X] Trade Programs 1 die auto
---[X] Sell Consumer Goods X4: +20 Resources per Turn, -40 Consumer Goods

The next one drops the Islands for a bit of money saved and for Inferno Gel.

[X] Plan Portals and Processors and Mad Science:
-[X] Infrastructure 5/5 75R
--[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 277/465 2 dice 30R 34%
--[X] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 3) 27/150 1 die 25R 20%
--[X] Postwar Housing Refits (Phase 2) 33/150 2 dice 20R 89%

-[X] Heavy Industry 5/5 + 5 FD 130R
--[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 143/275 2 dice 40R 89%
--[X] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 5) 36/1805 8 dice 90R

-[X] Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 120R
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 235/610 4 dice 120R 24%

-[X] Agriculture 6/6 FD 40R
--[X] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 457/805 5 dice 25R 84%
--[X] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 203/230 1 die 15R 100%

-[X] Tiberium 7/7 200R
--[X] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/410 2 dice 70R 87%
--[X] Enhanced Harvest Tiberium Spikes 0/180 2 dice 40R 72%
--[X] Forgotten Experimentation 0/260 3 dice 90R 77%

-[X] Space 7/7 + 1 FD+E 180R
--[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1015 1 die 20R 96%
--[X] Hospital Bay 184/300 1 die+Erewhon 40R 81%
--[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/975 6 dice 120R 22%

-[X] Services 4/4 330R
--[X] Library Enhancement Programs 149/180 1 die 15R 100%
--[X] University Program Updates 234/250 1 AA die 15R 100%
--[X] Primitive Prototype Portal Construction 73/400 3 dice 300R 32%

-[X] Military 7/7 115R
--[X] Inferno Gel Development (Tech) 0/40 1 die 10R 100%
--[X] Binary Propellant Exploration (Tech) 0/60 1 die 10R 92%
--[X] Orca Wingmen Drone Deployment (Phase 2) 56/215 1 die 20R
--[X] Stealth Disruptor Deployment 0/160 1 die 15R
--[X] Shark Class Frigate Shipyards (Seattle) 148/230 1 die 20R 65%
--[X] Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Deployment 0/240 2 dice 40R 7%

-[X] Bureaucracy 4/4
--[X] Administrative Assistance 2 dice auto (Space)
--[X] Predictive Modeling Management 1 die auto
--[X] Trade Programs 1 die auto
---[X] Sell Consumer Goods X4: +20 Resources per Turn, -40 Consumer Goods
 
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[x] Plan Repulsorplates Tiberium Spikes and Islands oh my
- [x] Infrastructure 5/5 Free Dice: 0/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 85R
-- [x] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 277/465 4 dice 60R 99%
-- [x] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 2) 27/150 1 die 25R 20%
- [x] Heavy Industry 5/5 Free Dice: 3/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 160R
-- [x] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 143/275 2 dice 40R 89%
-- [x] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 5) 36/1805 3 dice 45R 0%
-- [x] Second Generation Repulsorplate Factories 0/525 3 dice 75R 0%
- [x] Light and Chemical Industry 4/4 Free Dice: 0/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 120R
-- [x] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 235/610 4 dice 120R 24%
- [x] Agriculture 6/6 Free Dice: 0/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 50R
-- [x] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 457/805 4 dice 20R 40%
-- [x] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 203/230 1 die 15R 100%
-- [x] Spider Cotton Plantations (Phase 2) 60/160 1 die 15R 50%
- [x] Tiberium 7/7 Free Dice: 0/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 195R
-- [x] Improved Hewlett-Gardener Refits (Phase2) 65/210 3 dice 105R 100%
-- [x] Enhanced Harvest Tiberium Spikes (Platform) 0/180 2 dice 40R 72%
-- [x] Coordinated Abatement Programs (Phase 2) 88/180 2 dice 50R 100%
- [x] Orbital 7/7 Free Dice: 3/6 Admin Dice: 1/2 AI Dice: 1/1 240R
-- [x] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1015 1 die die 20R 96%
-- [x] GDSS Columbia Bays
--- [x] Hospital Bay 184/300 2 dice 40R 98%
--- [x] Spaceport Bay 0/295 2 dice + Erewhon 60R 12%
-- [x] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/975 5 dice + 1 admin 120R 4%
- [x] Services 4/4 Free Dice: 0/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 230R
-- [x] Library Enhancement Programs 149/180 1 die 15R 100%
-- [x] University Program Updates 234/250 1 die 15R 100%
-- [x] Primitive Prototype Portal Construction 73/400 2 dice 200R 0%
- [x] Military 7/7 Free Dice: 0/6 Admin Dice: 0/2 AI Dice: 0/1 135R
-- [x] Binary Propellant Exploration (Tech) 0/60 1 die 10R 92%
-- [x] Orca Wingmen Drone Deployment (Phase 2) 56/215 2 dice 40R 68%
-- [x] Transorbital Fighter Development (Platform) 0/60 1 die 20R 92%
-- [x] Island-Class Assault Ship Deployment 0/135 1 die 25R 12%
-- [x] Shark-Class Frigate Shipyards (Seattle) 148/230 1 die 20R 65%
-- [x] Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Deployment 0/240 1 die 20R 0%
- [x] Bureaucracy 4/4 Free Dice: 0/6 AI Dice: 0/1 0R
-- [x] Administrative Assistance (GDSS Columbia) 2 dice
-- [x] Predictive Modeling Management 1 die
-- [x] Trade Programs 1 die
--- [x] Sell Consumer Goods: +5 Resources per Turn, -10 Consumer Goods
- [x] Free Dice 6/6
-- [x] 3 in Heavy Industry
-- [x] 3 in Orbital
- [x] Resources Income 1215/1265 Reserve 0/25 Bank 100
 
[X] Plan Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects
[X] Plan Levitating Up To Boston
[X] Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects, NTU Edition
[X] Plan Repulsorplates Tiberium Spikes and Islands oh my
 
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[X] Plan Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects
[X] Plan Name Here
[X]Plan Attempting to naval invade the red zones
 
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Derpmind said:
Portals are a potential victory condition. And it's going to take many projects to get Portals to a usable, practical state. The longer it takes us to finish this project, the longer we'll have to wait to get the follow up one, and the one after that, and the one after that.

Let's say we have to do this project and three more before Portals get where we want them to be. That's four projects total. If we take 4 turns to slowly complete each Portal project, then that's 16 turns total to do them all. (Plus the fixed amount of waiting times between being given each project.) Whereas if we prioritize working on Portals and take 2 turns to do each, that'll be only 8 turns total - an entire 2 years faster. Since it is a victory condition and we're racing the end of the world here, I'd say that makes reducing the wait for functional Portals more important than anything else.
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Portals aren't a victory condition.
However, viable portals may make some victory conditions substantially easier. A one way portal that can only sling hydrogen towards Mars at a rate of 1 kilogram per hour, for example, would substantially ease a fair number of constraints involved in settling Mars. Even with that limited flow.
 
qazcdewsx said:
Maybe I'm missing something but it looks like you've committed Erewhon to Orbital but then not put them on a project.
1 Dice on Columbia, 1 on the hospital and 6 plus the AA on Shala accounts for the rest of the dice but Erewhon looks like they've been forgotten.
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Thanks, I meant to have them on the Hospital Bay. Fixed!
 
Oleg-14191 said:
[x] Plan Levitating Up To Boston
- [x] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 65R)
-- [x] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 277/465 3 dice 45R 88%
-- [x] Postwar Housing Refits (Phase 2) 33/150 2 dice 20R 89%
- [x] Heavy Industry (5/5 Dice + 5 FD, +34 bonus, 200R)
-- [x] Second Generation Repulsorplate Factories 0/525 4 dice 100R
-- [x] North Boston Chip Fabricator (Phase 5) 36/1805 4 dice 60R
-- [x] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 143/275 2 dice 40R 89%
- [x] Light Industry (5/5 Dice, +29 bonus, 120R)
-- [x] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 235/610 4 dice 120R 24%
- [x] Agriculture (6/6 Dice + AA, +29 bonus, 45R)
-- [x] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 457/805 6 dice 30R 98%
-- [x] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 203/230 1 AA die 15R 89%
- [x] Tiberium (7 Dice, +39 bonus, 180 R)
-- [x] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/210 2 dice 70R 87%
-- [x] Coordinated Abatement Programs (Phase 2) 88/180 2 dice 50R 100%
-- [x] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 10+11) 36/315 3 dice 60R 54%
- [x] Orbital (7/7 dice + 1 FD + 1AA + E, +34 bonus, 180 R)
-- [x] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1025 1 die 20R 86%
-- [x] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/985 6+AA dice 140R 62%
-- [x] Hospital Bay 184/310 1 dice 20R 29%+
- [x] Services (4/4 Dice, +35 bonus, 230 R)
-- [x] Primitive Prototype Portal Construction 73/400 2 dice 200R
-- [x] Library Enhancement Programs 149/180 1 die 15R 100%
-- [x] University Program Updates 234/250 1 die 15R 100%
- [x] Military (7/7 dice, +31 bonus, 140 R)
-- [x] Governor A Development 0/40 1 die 15R 100%
-- [x] Island Class Assault Ship Deployment 0/135 1 dice 25R 12%
-- [x] Shark Class Frigate Shipyards (Seattle) 148/230 1 die 20R 65%
-- [x] Modular Rapid Assembly Prototype Factory 0/265 1 dice 20R
-- [x] Transorbital Fighter Development 0/60 1 die 20R 92%
-- [x] Orca Wingmen Drone Deployment (Phase 2) 56/215 2 dice 40R 68%
- [x] Bureaucracy (4 Dice, +29 bonus)
-- [x] Administrative Assistance (Ag Mech)
-- [x] Administrative Assistance (Shala)
[x] Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects, NTU Edition
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Just so you know, I had to make a quick edit to put Erewhon where it belonged in Orb, so you'll want to edit your copy here.
 
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-[X] Orbital (7/7 dice + 1 FD + 1AA + E, +34 bonus, 180 R)
--[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1015 1 die 20R 96%
--[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/975 6+AA dice 140R 62%
--[X] Hospital Bay 184/310 1 dice 20R 39%
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Oleg-14191 said:
- [x] Orbital (7/7 dice + 1 FD + 1AA + E, +34 bonus, 180 R)
-- [x] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1025 1 die 20R 86%
-- [x] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/985 6+AA dice 140R 62%
-- [x] Hospital Bay 184/310 1 dice 20R 29%+
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Where's Erewhon? (The departmental summary says the Erewhon die is used, but there is no notation of which project it's being used on.)
Edit: found the network terminal dressed in a red-striped shirt and matching hat, hiding in the Shadows.

Derpmind said:
So, I was going to just vote for whatever plans put 3 dice on Portals this turn. But it looks like every plan only puts down two dice... while also being over 100R short of our full budget. Every. Single. One. I don't know what you're all saving that money for, but this really looks like a square peg and square hole situation to me.

I don't want to make my own plan because my computer's totally busted, but I might end up making a token plan variant of whoever ends up in the lead, I guess.
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My plan is actually 5R over our income (dipping into the 25R reserve we have): see below.

And actually putting up my plan:
[X]Plan Repulsors are space spending
-[X] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 85R)
--[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 4) 277/465 2 dice 30R 34%
--[X] Rail Network Construction Campaigns (Phase 6) 1/245 2 dice 30R 4%
--[X] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 3) 27/150 1 die 25R 20%
-Heavy Industry 5 + 2 Free dice +34 165R
--[X] Second Generation Repulsorplate Factories 0/525 5 dice 125R 9%
--[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 143/275 2 dice 40R 89%
-Light and Chemical Industry 4 dice +29 120R
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 235/610 4 dice 120R 24%
-Agriculture 6 dice +29 40R
--[X] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 457/805 5 dice 25R 84%
--[X] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 203/230 1 die 15R 100%
-Tiberium 7 dice +39 195R
--[X] Improved Hewlett Gardener Refits (Phase 2) 65/210 3 dice 105R 100% Phase 2, 12% Phase 3
--[X] Enhanced Harvest Tiberium Spikes (Platform) 0/180 2 dice 40R -10 PS 72%
--[X] Coordinated Abatement Programs (Phase 2) 88/180 2 dice 50R 100% Phase 2, 4% Phase 3
-Orbital 7 +4 Free dice + Erewhon +34 240R
--[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 956/1015 1 die 20R 96%
--[X] Hospital Bay 184/300 1 die 20R 39%
--[X] Spaceport Bay 0/295 3+Erewhon Dice 80R 74.6%
--[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 5) 367/975 6 dice 120R 22%
-Services 4 dice + AA +35 275R
--[X] Cosmetic Biosculpting 87/345 2 dice 60R 4%
--[X] University Program Updates 234/250 1 AA die 15R 100%
--[X] Primitive Prototype Portal Construction 73/400 2 dice 200R
-Military 7 dice +31 150R
--[X] NovaHawk Development 0/40 1 die 15R 100%
--[X] Transorbital Fighter Development 0/60 1 die 20R 92%
--[X] Next-Generation Armored Support Vehicles 0/80 1 die 25R 72%
--[X] Next-Generation Armored Fighting Vehicles 0/80 1 die 35R 72%
--[X] Governor A Development 0/40 1 die 15R 100%
--[X] Shark Class Frigate Shipyards (Seattle) 148/230 1 die 20R 65%
--[X] Modular Rapid Assembly Prototype Factory 0/265 1 die 20R
-Bureaucracy 4 dice +29
--[X] Administrative Assistance (University Program Updates)
--[X] Predictive Modeling Management
--[X] Trade Programs
---[X] Sell Consumer Goods 1 die, -5 PS
1270R/1265+25
 
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[X] Plan Levitating Up To Boston

[X] Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects, NTU Edition

[X] Plan Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects
 
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[X]Plan Repulsors are space spending
[X] Plan Repulsorplates Tiberium Spikes and Islands oh my
[X] Plan Attempting to Have Both Industrial Projects
 
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