I still think we are missing a trick by not completing Agri Mech.
Even with the current limitation, we can roll out ~10 Energy from the 2nd gen fusion every turn. So any rushing of Bergen looks like an unneeded (and expensive) knee-jerk reaction.
And we now have more STU using options than we can supply. Those refits for more STUs are very expensive. -_-
You could sSwitch two dice off of Reforestation to Agriculture Mechanization. We still think that'll have effects more than just +12 food, and it ignt improve our other farming projects.
Also, with 95% completion chance, we really only need one Bureaucracy dice per Security Review. You could switch to one die each and use those 2 Free Dice to do an additional two Security Reviews, or do a review in Bureaucracy itself.
Yeah, but it calls into question our seriousness when we're talking about how we might evacuate Earth if we have to, and it reactivates the whole "GDI is only really planning to move its elite into cushy space paradises" charge that Nod likes to make against our space program.
You could sSwitch two dice off of Reforestation to Agriculture Mechanization. We still think that'll have effects more than just +12 food, and it ignt improve our other farming projects.
You're not wrong, and that's also a move I'd have been tempted to make anyway if I remembered it. I'll move one of the dice for you, and one more if @doruma1920 concurs.
Also, with 95% completion chance, we really only need one Bureaucracy dice per Security Review. You could switch to one die each and use those 2 Free Dice to do an additional two Security Reviews, or do a review in Bureaucracy itself.
At this point, the only security review that's using two dice is Military, and I really don't want to fuck around with that Military review. I want to be very thorough and avoid even a small chance of spies slipping through the net like they did last time.
Derpmind and Doruma found 10 R each. Derpmind wanted hers put on promoting a reforestation die to farm mechanization. As of this writing, I don't know what Doruma wants to do with his 10 R.
EDIT: Doruma approves the same.
BUDGET: 1220 R, 54 PS, +15 Energy, +15 Capital Goods
1220/1220 R
7/7 Free dice
[] Plan Attempting One More Phase of Alloys For The Road
-[] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 100 R)
--[] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 (6 dice, 100 R (in Infra)) (6/12 median)
-[] Heavy Industry (6/6 Dice + 4 Free dice, +34 bonus, 280 R)
--[] U-Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 3) 186/550 (5 dice, 200 R) (~87% chance)
--[] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/1000 (1 die, 20 R (in HI)) (see above)
--[] Second Generation Repulsorplate Development 0/60 (1 die, 20 R) (94% chance)
--[] Second Generation Fusion Plant 0/(325) (2 dice, 40 R) (2/4 median)
--[] Security Review
-[] Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice + 1 Free die, +29 bonus, 60 R)
--[] Heavy Bureaucracy dice investment is in part a funds-saving measure.
--[] Transfer Funding to InOps (1 die, -60 RpT)
--[] Security Review: Heavy Industry (1 die)
---[] Last done 7-8 turns earlier. Both not in normal rotation yet. Surprise!
--[] Security Review: Military (2 dice)
---[] Last done two turns ago. They'll never see it coming.
--[] Interdepartmental Favors
---[] Ground Forces: Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles by 2065Q4 (+5 PS)
---[] Health and Welfare: Complete Hospital Expansions by end of plan: +5 Political Support.
---[] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
PESSIMISTIC ENERGY BUDGET
15 (initial) -4 (alloys) -1 (dairy) -1 (farm mechanization) -1 (hospitals) -3 (AEVA) -1 (railgun slugs) -2 (zrbite guns)
= +2 Energy
(84% chance of getting +10 from ion power, various other factors, this is worst case, Energy will be fine next turn if not this turn)
GETTING YELLED AT BUDGET
54 + 15 (promises) + (14% chance of +15 from spacefood)
= ?? Political Support
Attention: When it is actually posted in earnest, with X's in, there will be a "Halloween" variant of this plan where Erewhon is reassigned to Occult Studies for the meme value. To compensate for the hit to vein mining, the Free die will be taken off Orbital.
I like the Agricultural Mechanism action too and think that could be super useful. Maybe we can make agricultural mechs since it talks about the myomer and I'm pretty sure that is what makes artificial muscles.
I do have to say its amusing how we have so many options and its hard to know exactly where to put it all.
And you get a security review and you get a security review and ...
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Oh, here is an amusing suggestion - take a die from Chicago (right cause you need an extra die, though if you can take it from elsewhere that works as well) and put it in Postwar Housing Refits (Phase 1).
Note, I'm not like "this is super important" but it kind of is interesting as an option.
Thank you. Do you have any preferences about how to use 10 R without reallocating Free dice? I reserve the right to veto, but you and Derpmind have both earned the right to pick.
[ ] Interdepartmental Favors (Updated)
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-[ ] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
-[ ] Diplomatic Corps: Complete all phases of Coordinated Abatement by end of Plan: +5 Political Support
This implies there will be Coordinated Abatement and that there is at the very least encouragement to hold off on Karachi for a year and a half. That period was likely when we were planning on starting it anyway so that works out nicely.
I'm on my phone so apologies for not directly quoting people.
@doruma1920 I fully agree with your Shala plan as well.
The negative narrative impacts from shock effort appear to be due to dumping a boat load of dice into very few projects, spreading them out or just spending fewer free dice should alleviate those issues.
While I understand the drive for assembler bays, we do have the Enterprise just chilling out. With the spaceport it's not unreasonable to imagine residents of Columbia working in Enterprise - hell of a commute, but you can't beat the view.
Finally, @Simon_Jester the description of SCOP is all about making food with little to no sunlight. Once you get past the asteroid belt, the sun becomes so distant that its radiance no longer gives significant amounts of energh - this is why Jovian and trans-Jovian probes use RTGs instead of solar panels. And, incidentally, plonking a habitat of some kind on or above the visitor base sounds like the easiest way to research their tech.
Furthermore, Erewhon must conduct Occult investigations.
This plan rolls out another alloy phase, makes good progress on Chicago with the intent to continue next turn. Knocks out or makes work on several promises, puts in work on Bergen to open more dice per turn on fusion and sets us up for future turns. I am rolling the extra 10R people found to next turn for more expensive projects.
1210/1220
[X] Plan Chicago, Mines and Groundwork
Infra 5/5 100R +27
-[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 5 dice+1 HI 100R 0%
HI 6/6+2 free 260R +34
-[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 1 die 20R
-[X] U Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 2) 186/550 5 dice 200R 87%
-[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 1) (New) 0/325 2 dice 40R
LCI 5/5 125R +24
-[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 65/690 3 dice 90R 0%
-[X] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 219/280 1 die 20R 79%
-[X] Home Robotics Factories 114/140 1 die 15R 100%
Agri 6/6 45R +29
-[X] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) (New) 0/855 5 dice 25R 0%
-[X] Dairy Ranches (Phase 1) 155/195 1 dice 20R 100%
Tiberium 7/7 140R +39
-[X] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 6+7+8+9) 25/700 6 dice 120R 4%
-[X] Tiberian Prediction Algorithms (New) 0/120 1 die 20R 40%
Orbital 7/7+3 free 200R +34
-[X] Security Review 1 die
-[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 146/1065 3 dice 60R 0%
-[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 95/530 6 dice+ Erewhon 140R 95%
Services 4/4 70R +32
-[X] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (Service) 167/200 1 die +1 service 20R 100%
-[X] Regional Hospital Expansions (Phase 1) 213/295 2 dice 50R 99%
Military 8/8+2 free 180R +31
-[X] Advanced ECCM Development 0/40 1 die 20R 100%
-[X] Zrbite Sonic Weapons Deployment (New) (Phase 1) 0/380 2 dice 40R 0%
-[X] Ultralight Glide Munitions Development 0/40 1 die 10R 100%
-[X] Ground Forces Zone Armor (Set 1) (Phase 6) 28/165 2 dice 40R 83%
-[X] GD-3 Deployment (Phase 1) 0/335 2 dice 20R 0%
-[X] Medium Tactical Plasma Weapon Deployment 0/70 1 die 30R 77%
-[X] Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Development 0/80 1 die 20R 72%
Bureau 4/4 +29 90R
-[X] Transfer Funding to InOps 1 die -60 RpT auto
-[X] Expand Grants Programs 1 die -30 RpT auto
-[X] Security Reviews (Orbital) DC50, 2 dice 100%
Free 7/7
2 HI, 3 Orb, 2 Mil
Right so pushing Chicago, while still working on another phase of alloy . Going heavy on vein mines because I had to downgrade some projects to keep in budget and with 90 resources being sent to other parts of GDI we want to keep that up, plus more YZ mit is solid as well. Military not finishing sonic weapons to let energy build up next turn, but also working on a bunch of plan goals. Agri gets reforstation to save funds while finishing 1 phase of dairy plants. We do have a chance to finish Bergen next turn (7 dice is 13% and 8 is 44% so with 3 this turn plus more resources going into next we might be able to go 4 or 5 dice on bergen) which should increase the amount of dice we can drop on fusion
Plan Goals
Provide 77 Consumer Goods points from the Treasury (+4 Home Robotics, +6 Dairy, +2 Shala 4)
Provide 27 Consumer Goods from Agriculture (+6 Dairy, +2 Shala 4)
Increase Income by 695 (3 phases of 25-35 with a 4% for 25-35)
Increase Tiberium Processing limit by 920
Increase population in space by 17.95k (.3k Shala 4)
Provide 28 Points of Red Zone Abatement
Provide 30 Resources in grants (All 30 In bureau)
Spend at least one die on Steel Talons projects every turn
Projects
Complete Karachi Planned City by end of 2065
Complete Chicago Planned City by end of 2065 (6 dice on this)
Deploy Medium Tactical Plasma Weapons (77%)
Deploy Orca Wingman Drones by end of 2065
Deploy Services AEVA (finishes this turn)
Complete North Boston Phase 5
Develop and deploy Governor-A refit
Develop and deploy Conestoga class
Complete at least 3 Blue Zone Inhibitors by end of 2065
Compete Dairy Ranching Domes Phase 2 by end of 2065 (1 phase 100%)
Complete 1 of Nuuk, Reykjavik, Bergen (3 dice on Bergen)
Complete all phases of Red Zone Border Offensives before 2064
Complete SADN Phase 4
Complete at least 5 Ground Forces Zone Armor factories (1 phase 83%)
Complete all of the following projects:
Advanced ECCM Development, Ultralight Glide Munitions Development, Transorbital Fighter Development or follow on heavy ship development, Combat Laser Development, and Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Development (Adv ECCM, Ultralight, USGV so 3 of the 5 will finish this turn)
Complete 2 phases of Reforestation Campaign Preparation (5 dice)
Complete Gravitic Shipyard Bay
Here are the "live" versions. Including a Halloween version, as promised, with Erewhon on Occult Studies for the joy of it. Note that the Halloween version has more dairy spending... mwa-ha-haaa!
BUDGET: 1220 R, 54 PS, +15 Energy, +15 Capital Goods
1220/1220 R
7/7 Free dice
[X] Plan Attempting One More Phase of Alloys For The Road
-[X] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 100 R)
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 (6 dice, 100 R (in Infra)) (6/12 median)
-[X] Heavy Industry (6/6 Dice + 4 Free dice, +34 bonus, 280 R)
--[X] U-Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 3) 186/550 (5 dice, 200 R) (~87% chance)
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 (1 die, 20 R (in HI)) (see above)
--[X] Second Generation Repulsorplate Development 0/60 (1 die, 20 R) (95% chance)
--[X] Second Generation Fusion Plant 0/(325) (2 dice, 40 R) (2/4 median)
--[X] Security Review
-[X] Light Industry (5/5 Dice, +24 bonus, 140 R)
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 65/690 (4 dice, 120 R) (4/8.5 median)
--[X] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 219/285 (1 die, 20 R) (79% chance)
-[X] Agriculture (6/6 Dice, +29 bonus, 85 R)
--[X] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 26/240 (2 dice, 30 R) (18% chance)
--[X] Reforestation Campaign Preparations (Phase 1) 0/855 (1 die, 5 R) (1/11 median)
--[X] Dairy Ranches (Phase 1) 155/195 (1 die, 20 R) (100% chance)
--[X] Poulticeplant Deployment 0/150 (2 die, 30 R) (71% chance)
-[X] Tiberium (7/7 Dice + 1 Free dice + EREWHON!!!, +39 bonus, 200 R)
--[X] Tiberium Vein Mining (Stage 6+7+8) 25/525 (4+E dice, 100 R) (Stage 6, 93.6% Stage 7, 12% chance Stage 8)
--[X] Red Zone Energy Refits (Phase 1) 0/315 (4 dice, 100 R) (84% chance)
-[X] Orbital (7/7 dice + 1 Free die, +34 bonus, 160 R)
--[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 146/1065 (4 dice, 100 R) (4/10 median)
--[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 92/530 (4 dice, 80 R) (14% chance)
---[X] Some slowdown from the breakneck construction of Q3
-[X] Services (4/4 Dice, +32 bonus, 65 R)
--[X] Regional Hospital Expansions 213/295 (1 die, 25 R) (66% chance)
--[X] Kamisuwa Optical Laboratories 79/240 (1 dice, 20 R) (1/2 median)
--[X] AEVA Deployment (Services) 167/200 (1 die, 20 R) (100% chance)
--[X] AEVA Hungers (1 die)
-[X] Military (8/8 Dice, +31 bonus, 130 R)
--[X] Zrbite Sonic Weapons Deployment 0/380 (4 dice, 80 R) (26% chance)
--[X] Ultralight Glide Munitions Development 0/40 (1 die, 10 R) (100% chance)
--[X] Infantry Recon Support Drones Deployment 0/150 (1 die, 10 R) (1/2 median)
--[X] Medium Tactical Plasma Weapon Deployment 0/70 (1 die, 30 R) (77% chance)
--[X] Security Review
-[X] Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice + 1 Free die, +29 bonus, 60 R)
--[X] Heavy Bureaucracy dice investment is in part a funds-saving measure.
--[X] Transfer Funding to InOps (1 die, -60 RpT)
--[X] Security Review: Heavy Industry (1 die)
---[X] Last done 7-8 turns earlier. Both not in normal rotation yet. Surprise!
--[X] Security Review: Military (2 dice)
---[X] Last done two turns ago. They'll never see it coming.
--[X] Interdepartmental Favors
---[X] Ground Forces: Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles by 2065Q4 (+5 PS)
---[X] Health and Welfare: Complete Hospital Expansions by end of plan: +5 Political Support.
---[X] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
PESSIMISTIC ENERGY BUDGET
15 (initial) -4 (alloys) -1 (dairy) -1 (farm mechanization) -1 (hospitals) -3 (AEVA) -1 (railgun slugs) -2 (zrbite guns)
= +2 Energy
(84% chance of getting +10 from ion power, various other factors, this is worst case, Energy will be fine next turn if not this turn)
GETTING YELLED AT BUDGET
54 + 15 (promises) + (14% chance of +15 from spacefood)
= ?? Political Support
Or. Or Or Or.
BUDGET: 1220 R, 54 PS, +15 Energy, +15 Capital Goods
1220/1220 R
7/7 Free dice
[X] Plan Attempting One More Phase of Alloys On Halloween
-[X] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 100 R)
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 (6 dice, 100 R (in Infra)) (6/12 median)
-[X] Heavy Industry (6/6 Dice + 4 Free dice, +34 bonus, 280 R)
--[X] U-Series Alloy Foundries (Phase 3) 186/550 (5 dice, 200 R) (~87% chance)
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 (1 die, 20 R (in HI)) (see above)
--[X] Second Generation Repulsorplate Development 0/60 (1 die, 20 R) (95% chance)
--[X] Second Generation Fusion Plant 0/(325) (2 dice, 40 R) (2/4 median)
--[X] Security Review
-[X] Light Industry (5/5 Dice, +24 bonus, 140 R)
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 65/690 (4 dice, 120 R) (4/8.5 median)
--[X] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 219/285 (1 die, 20 R) (79% chance)
-[X] Agriculture (6/6 Dice, +29 bonus, 100 R)
--[X] Agriculture Mechanization Projects (Phase 2) 26/240 (2 dice, 30 R) (18% chance) --[X] Dairy Ranches (Phase 1+2) 155/385 (2 dice, 40 R) (Phase 1, 10% chance Phase 2)
--[X] Poulticeplant Deployment 0/150 (2 die, 30 R) (71% chance)
-[X] Tiberium (7/7 Dice + 2 Free dice , +39 bonus, 200 R)
--[X] Tiberium Vein Mining (Stage 6+7+8) 25/525 (5 dice, 100 R) (Stage 6, 98.5% Stage 7, 29% chance Stage 8)
--[X] Red Zone Energy Refits (Phase 1) 0/315 (4 dice, 100 R) (84% chance)
-[X] Orbital (7/7 dice, +34 bonus, 140 R)
--[X] GDSS Columbia (Phase 5) 146/1065 (3 dice, 60 R) (3/10 median)
--[X] GDSS Shala (Phase 4) 92/530 (4 dice, 80 R) (14% chance)
---[X] Some slowdown from the breakneck construction of Q3
-[X] Services (4/4 Dice + EREWHON!!!, +32 bonus, 70 R)
--[X] Regional Hospital Expansions 213/295 (1 die, 25 R) (66% chance)
--[X] Kamisuwa Optical Laboratories 79/240 (1 dice, 20 R) (1/2 median) --[X] Occult Investigations 0/30 (EREWHON!, 5 R) (86% chance)
--[X] AEVA Deployment (Services) 167/200 (1 die, 20 R) (100% chance)
--[X] AEVA Hungers (1 die)
-[X] Military (8/8 Dice, +31 bonus, 130 R)
--[X] Zrbite Sonic Weapons Deployment 0/380 (4 dice, 80 R) (26% chance)
--[X] Ultralight Glide Munitions Development 0/40 (1 die, 10 R) (100% chance)
--[X] Infantry Recon Support Drones Deployment 0/150 (1 die, 10 R) (1/2 median)
--[X] Medium Tactical Plasma Weapon Deployment 0/70 (1 die, 30 R) (77% chance)
--[X] Security Review
-[X] Bureaucracy (4/4 Dice + 1 Free die, +29 bonus, 60 R)
--[X] Heavy Bureaucracy dice investment is in part a funds-saving measure.
--[X] Transfer Funding to InOps (1 die, -60 RpT)
--[X] Security Review: Heavy Industry (1 die)
---[X] Last done 7-8 turns earlier. Both not in normal rotation yet. Surprise!
--[X] Security Review: Military (2 dice)
---[X] Last done two turns ago. They'll never see it coming.
--[X] Interdepartmental Favors
---[X] Ground Forces: Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles by 2065Q4 (+5 PS)
---[X] Health and Welfare: Complete Hospital Expansions by end of plan: +5 Political Support.
---[X] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
PESSIMISTIC ENERGY BUDGET
15 (initial) -4 (alloys) -1 (dairy) -1 (farm mechanization) -1 (hospitals) -3 (AEVA) -1 (railgun slugs) -2 (zrbite guns)
= +2 Energy
(84% chance of getting +10 from ion power, various other factors, this is worst case, Energy will be fine next turn if not this turn)
GETTING YELLED AT BUDGET
54 + 15 (promises) -5 (robo-sorcery) + (14% chance of +15 from spacefood)
= ?? Political Support
Rationale: This plan aims to push Chicago towards completion by the end of Q1 2063. It'll take that long for the treaty to come into effect and enable us to start on Karachi without strife with the Bannerjees anyway. Similarly, I want to polish off the last Zone Armor Factory of Set 1, and push towards getting Zrbite Phase 1 done by end of Q1, just to polish off preparations for the "It's the Great Red Zone Campaign, Charlie Brown!" The other main priority is pushing towards the completion of Bergen, and other things - Second Gen CCF, Red Zone Refits, Tarberries, and Microfusion Cells - that will help prevent the looming Energy crunch. Sadly, I've accepted the need to put a pause on the Alloy Foundries as a result.
Note: This final, votable version of the plan incorporates tweaks based on Simon_Jester's suggestions.
Finally, @Simon_Jester the description of SCOP is all about making food with little to no sunlight. Once you get past the asteroid belt, the sun becomes so distant that its radiance no longer gives significant amounts of energh - this is why Jovian and trans-Jovian probes use RTGs instead of solar panels. And, incidentally, plonking a habitat of some kind on or above the visitor base sounds like the easiest way to research their tech.
Hm. That's a fair point. On the other hand, it sounds more like a Shala project than a Columbia one, so that confuses me a bit. And it's also... I'm just getting a vibe of it as something to be researched a little further down the tree. Worst case, with the gravitics bay, we'll be able to do shuttle runs of rations out to a base around Jupiter on a fairly regular basis with the Conestogas by the time we're in any position to build a base around Jupiter in the first place.
With that said, I am heartily in favor of leaving at least a couple of Columbia bay slots unused until, say, late 2064 or so, so that we can postpone any last-minute knock-down drag-out arguments until then. You do have a point.
Another thing that occurs to me is that at Jupiter orbit, sunlight is about 1/25th as strong as near Earth... so you could, in theory, just build giant reflectors 25-30 times the size of what you normally would and shine those on your agri-bays.
It's good, but I want to put it off until we don't have any "we really do need this right now" stuff in Infrastructure. Unfortunately, real talk, I think that's a long time from now.
The thing is, nobody seems to be yelling at us about it right now, and the population in low-quality housing is quite limited, so I figure it's not our biggest problem of the moment.
[X] Plan Attempting One More Phase of Alloys For The Road
[X] Plan: What is Chicago-Berg Never Dies, But Rises Again Stronger and Harder
[X] Plan Chicago, Mines and Groundwork
I think that in the future fusion power will be more likely to be the main power source of stations, vs solar panel. I don't really see this design as the only station in an area, especially a version without integrated industry. Though I do like the idea of people living in the hab station and working in the industry station.
It's good, but I want to put it off until we don't have any "we really do need this right now" stuff in Infrastructure. Unfortunately, real talk, I think that's a long time from now.
The thing is, nobody seems to be yelling at us about it right now, and the population in low-quality housing is quite limited, so I figure it's not our biggest problem of the moment.
As a conversational point (meaning I am not super arguing for it or anything) I do think putting a die into it could lead to some success without any risk. Like there is no risk with us doing it as a 'because we can' sort of thing. Plus removing 'low quality housing' from the list would be super beneficial in showing GDI cares.
This really only benefits us when taking a die from somewhere doesn't cause major issues on the plan's result rate.
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As an aside I notice that some people choose a number of plans in their vote, what does that actually do?
Alright! Plans!
[X] Plan Two Turns to Chicago
-[X] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 100 R)
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 5 dice 100R
-[X] Heavy Industry (6/6 Dice + 2 Free, +34 bonus, 130 R)
--[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 1) 0/325 2 dice 40R
--[X] Low Velocity Particle Applicator Development 0/120 2 dice 40R 97%
--[X] Microfusion Cell Development 0/60 1 die 20R 95%
--[X] Second Generation Repulsorplate Development (Tech) 0/60 1 die 20R 95%
--[X] Division of Alternative Energy -1 die -10R auto
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 1 dice 20R
-[X] Light Industry (5/5 Dice, +24 bonus, 95 R)
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 65/690 2 dice 60R
--[X] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 219/280 1 dice 20R 79%
--[X] Home Robotics Factories 114/140 1 dice 15R 100%
--[X] Security Review
-[X] Agriculture (6/6 Dice, +29 bonus, 105 R)
--[X] Dairy Ranches (Phase 1) 155/195 2 dice 40R 100%
--[X] Tarberry Development 0/40 1 dice 20R 100%
--[X] Poulticeplant Deployment 0/150 2 dice 30R 79%
--[X] Department of Core Crops -1 dice -15R auto
-[X] Tiberium (7 Dice, +39 bonus, 140 R)
--[X] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 6+7+8+9) 25/175 6 dice 120R 4%
--[X] Tiberian Prediction Algorithms (New) 0/120 1 die 20R 40%
-[X] Orbital (7/7 dice + 5 Free Dice, +34 bonus, 240 R)
--[X] Medium Density Housing Bay 0/350 4 dice 80R 62%
--[X] Fruticulture Bay (New) 0/350 4 dice 80R 62%
--[X] Fusion Shipyard 0/475 4 dice 80R 4%
-[X] Services (4/4 Dice, +32 bonus, 65 R)
--[X] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (167/200) 1 dice, 1 locked 20R 100%
--[X] Kamisuwa Optical Laboratories 79/240 2 dice 40R 68%
--[X] Occult Investigations 0/30 E 5R 86%
-[X] Military (8/8 dice, +31 bonus, 160 R)
--[X] Zrbite Sonic Weapons Deployment (Phase 1) (0/380) 4 dice 80R 26%
--[X] Ultralight Glide Munitions Development 0/40 1 die 10R 100%
--[X] Medium Tactical Plasma Weapon Deployment 0/70 1 die 30R 77%
--[X] Advanced ECCM Development 0/40 1 die 20R 100%
--[X] Department of Munitions -1 dice -20R auto
-[X] Bureaucracy (4 Dice, +29 bonus, 60R)
--[X] Administrative Assistance (Infrastructure)
--[X] Transfer Funding to InOps -60R
--[X] Interdepartmental Favors
---[X] Space Force: Build Fusion and G-drive bays on Enterprise before the Elections. +5 Political Support
---[X] Ground Forces: Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles before end of this plan: +5 Political Support.
---[X] Health and Welfare: Complete Hospital Expansions by end of plan: +5 Political Support.
---[X] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
Total plan cost is: 1155.
What we get from this plan: INFRASTRUCTURE: We begin working on Chicago, with the intent on finishing it by Q1 or Q2 2063 depending on situation.
HEAVY INDUSTRY: We start our first set of 2nd Generation Fusion Plants, and take advantage of a pause in Alloy rollout to quickly smash all of our industrial tech dev. While some may want to continue to pursue Alloys until they are done, I think pausing for one turn to unlock new capabilities and efficiencies (esp. with regards to the LVPAD and repulsorplates, which have been stated to impact Cap Goods production and Tib refining, respectively) is wise and helps conserve our Energy supply until the 2nd Gen reactors go online. To that end, we also split off the DAE now that it's actually worth doing so.
LIGHT AND CHEMICAL INDUSTRY: We start Bergen with 3 dice, and allocate 1 dice to each of the projects we didn't finish last turn, (hopefully) finishing them. Starting Bergen puts us on the path to removing the dice limit on building fusion plant phases, and also nets us a little cap goods and energy bonus besides.
AGRICULTURE: We start the Reforestation Campaign, dev Tarberries, deploy Poulticeplants, and finish the Ranch we started. We also split off Core Crops to passively increase our food supply.
TIBERIUM: We keep going on the Vein Mines train, hopefully to finish two phases.
ORBITAL: We take a pause from smashing out station phases (which has been having narrative consequences, y'all) and put energy towards building out a bay for each of our three stations. A Medium Bay for Columbia to push us further towards completing our goal, a Fruticulture Bay on Shala for Agriculture Congoods (a plan goal!) and some sweet sweet PS and narrative niceness, and the Fusion Bay on Enterprise to start building up our space-based shipping into a behemoth.
SERVICES: We finish the Services AEVA and, hopefully, the Kamisuwa Optical Laboratories. Also, Erewhon is doing KANE research. What fun!
MILITARY: We put four dice into Zrbite weapons so that, when 2063Q2 comes around and we're throwing ZOCOM back into the frying pan for RZBOs, they have some better tools to fight the Green with. Besides that, we're also developing glide munitions for the Air Force, AECCM for everyone (but especially the Governor-A, which we promised the Navy would have it and is the last thing we need to dev before making that ship) and Medium Plasma deployment for the Talons. Atop that, we spin off the Munitions department to start working on all of our munitions projects in the background.
BUREAUCRACY: Here we transfer funding to InOps, administratively assist with Fusion Bay construction, and make literally every promise. Why? Why do that, you ask?
---[ ] Steel Talons: Deploy Medium Tactical Plasma Weapons by the end of 2062: +5 Political Support
With this plan, we are deploying these this turn. We need to roll 24 or better here with the standard Omake bonus. It is very likely we finish.
---[ ] Space Force: Build Fusion and G-drive bays on Enterprise before the Elections. +5 Political Support
This is also doable with a pause to build bays as this plan has. Notably, there is a reasonable chance we finish the Fusion bay this turn, or one dice on it next turn while working on the Grav Bay.
---[ ] Ground Forces: Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles before end of this plan: +5 Political Support.
These are both incredibly easy to do, being only developing the projects. They need 1 dice each at some point this plan.
---[ ] Health and Welfare: Complete Hospital Expansions by end of plan: +5 Political Support.
Once Kamisuwa is built, we should absolutely use our Services dice to (mostly) build out hospital expansions. This is an easy give.
---[ ] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
This, too, is an easy give, as this gives us… Two Turns to knock out Chicago J, which is the only plan goal competing for the same dice as Karachi.
---[ ] Diplomatic Corps: Complete all phases of Coordinated Abatement by end of Plan: +5 Political Support
This is also very likely to be an easy give, as I expect Coordinated Abatement to have some measure of income for us depending on the methods used – and, even if it didn't, is something we are going to do anyway.
Overall, this plan takes a pause on our two big resource/dice hogs (alloys and stations) and works hard on a number of other objectives (and in the case of the latter works on the exact same objective through a different path). I think we need to do this.
In conclusion, this plan addresses or completes the following Plan Goals/Litvinov promises:
Provide 77 Consumer Goods points from the Treasury
Provide 27 Consumer Goods from Agriculture
Increase Income by 695
Increase population in space by 17.95k
Spend at least one die on Steel Talons projects every turn
Complete Chicago Planned City by end of 2065
Deploy Medium Tactical Plasma Weapons
Deploy Services AEVA
Develop and deploy Governor-A refit (via finishing AECCM)
Compete Dairy Ranching Domes Phase 2 by end of 2065
Complete 1 of Nuuk, Reykjavik, Bergen
Complete all of the following projects: Advanced ECCM Development, Ultralight Glide Munitions Development, Transorbital Fighter Development or follow on heavy ship development, Combat Laser Development, and Unmanned Support Ground Vehicle Development
Activate Munitions Department
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.
And the space plan!
[X] Plan I Need My Space
-[X] Infrastructure (5/5 Dice, +27 bonus, 100 R)
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 5 dice HI dice, 100R
-[X] Heavy Industry (6/6 Dice, +34 bonus, 110 R)
--[X] Second Generation Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 1) 0/325 2 dice 40R
--[X] Low Velocity Particle Applicator Development 0/120 1 dice 20R 35%
--[X] Microfusion Cell Development 0/60 1 die 20R 95%
--[X] Division of Alternative Energy -1 die -10R
--[X] Chicago Planned City (Phase 5) 52/995 1 HI dice 20R
-[X] Light Industry (5/5 Dice, +24 bonus, 95 R)
--[X] Bergen Superconductor Foundry (Phase 4) 65/690 2 dice 60R
--[X] Carbon Nanotube Foundry Expansions 219/280 1 dice 20R 79%
--[X] Home Robotics Factories 114/140 1 dice 15R 100%
--[X] Security Review
-[X] Agriculture (6/6 Dice, +29 bonus, 105 R)
--[X] Dairy Ranches (Phase 1) 155/195 2 dice 40R 100%
--[X] Tarberry Development 0/40 1 dice 20R 100%
--[X] Poulticeplant Deployment 0/150 2 dice 30R 79%
--[X] Vertical Farming Projects (Stage 4) 1 die 15R 49%
-[X] Tiberium (7 Dice, +39 bonus, 140 R)
--[X] Tiberium Vein Mines (Stage 6+7+8+9) 25/175 6 dice 120R 4%
--[X] Tiberian Prediction Algorithms (New) 0/120 1 die 20R 40%
-[X] Orbital (7/7 dice + 7 Free Dice, +34 bonus, 320 R)
--[X] Medium Density Housing (New) 0/335 3 dice 60R 10%
--[X] Fruticulture Bay (New) 0/335 3 dice 60R 10%
--[X] Fusion Shipyard 0/475 4 dice 80R 4%
--[X] Gravitic Shipyard 0/430 3 dice 90R
--[X] Conestoga Class Development 0/60 1 dice 30R 94%
-[X] Services (4/4 Dice, +32 bonus, 50 R)
--[X] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Deployment (167/200) 1 dice, 1 locked 20R
--[X] Regional Hospital Expansions (Phase 1) 213/295 1 die 25R 66%
--[X] Security Review
--[X] Occult Investigations 0/30 E 5R 86%
-[X] Military (8/8 dice, +31 bonus, 160 R)
--[X] Zrbite Sonic Weapons Deployment (Phase 1) (0/380) 4 dice 80R 26%
--[X] Ultralight Glide Munitions Development 0/40 1 die 10R 100%
--[X] Medium Tactical Plasma Weapon Deployment 0/70 1 die 30R 77%
--[X] Advanced ECCM Development 0/40 1 die 20R 100%
--[X] Department of Munitions -1 dice -20R auto
-[X] Bureaucracy (4 Dice, +29 bonus, 60R)
--[X] Security Review (Services)
--[X] Security Review (LCI)
--[X] Transfer Funding to InOps -60R
--[X] Interdepartmental Favors
---[X] Space Force: Build Fusion and G-drive bays on Enterprise before the Elections. +5 Political Support
---[X] Ground Forces: Develop both Next Generation Armored and Support Vehicles before end of this plan: +5 Political Support.
---[X] Health and Welfare: Complete Hospital Expansions by end of plan: +5 Political Support.
---[X] Diplomatic Corps: Do not start Karachi until Q2 2063: +5 Political Support
[X] Plan Attempting One More Phase of Alloys For The Road
I'd prefer to save the Occult Research for once our MS meter drops a bit, but I may end up approval voting it later depending on what the votes look like.
I think that in the future fusion power will be more likely to be the main power source of stations, vs solar panel. I don't really see this design as the only station in an area, especially a version without integrated industry. Though I do like the idea of people living in the hab station and working in the industry station.
I don't think SCOP is about how to power the station so much as about how to grow food on it, using purely artificial light if necessary.
It's an important project for us to research in the long run, but I'm not sure it's that important when we already have the beginnings in our existing farms (many of which are giant enclosed buildings) and when for relatively small outposts the "just ship them rations" solution is likely to remain tenable.
It would be over-ambitious for us to think "but how will we support a hundred thousand people in a space city around Jupiter" is a major priority question for us to settle here, now, with Columbia. At least if you ask me.
As an aside I notice that some people choose a number of plans in their vote, what does that actually do?
It's approval voting. Their vote is counted as supporting every plan they vote for. However, only one votepost of yours (the most recent) is counted, so you have to put all your multiple votes into the same post.
If the point is to have an experimental wing with no sunlight exposure, I don't see why it's more of a waste than, say, not having giant windows on a habitat module that mean there's continual sunlight shining into it all the time.
Which I would hope there's not, if only so the people in the Shala-hab can get some frickin' sleep.
I'd prefer to save the Occult Research for once our MS meter drops a bit, but I may end up approval voting it later depending on what the votes look like.
Ahh, but Q4 is the only time we can do the research on Halloween!
[taps forehead sagely]
[For the record, I'm not really serious about the Halloween version and would feel a little weird with a plan that won just because of it unless my regular plan version was also genuinely popular]
I don't think SCOP is about how to power the station so much as about how to grow food on it, using purely artificial light if necessary.
It's an important project for us to research in the long run, but I'm not sure it's that important when we already have the beginnings in our existing farms (many of which are giant enclosed buildings) and when for relatively small outposts the "just ship them rations" solution is likely to remain tenable.
It would be over-ambitious for us to think "but how will we support a hundred thousand people in a space city around Jupiter" is a major priority question for us to settle here, now, with Columbia. At least if you ask me.
Yeah I'm with you. Like this particular station is habitat and while I think it having some integrated manufacturing is important I am not sure if it needs to focus on growing food that would be grown in outer territories of a solar system - at least not now.
Like I'm not against its presence, so if it wins and we build it kudos, but I also don't think its as essential as some other options. Incluiding hospital, and spaceport. Tourism is also important I think. Plus the housing options.
Personally though we have methods of creating food in places without access to natural sun, its just those places take power. Which is why I was talking about fusion.
Also yeah I think having experimental crop growth on the experimental crop growth station would make a lot of sense. Just create a chamber with no sunlight and there you go. At least the experts are already present.
[For the record, I'm not really serious about the Halloween version and would feel a little weird with a plan that won just because of it unless my regular plan version was also genuinely popular]
I want Occult Research to be an action so I am voting for it. I guess I could put your base plan under it to show approval voting since yeah I like your base plan as well.
But yeah, I want Occult Research so like you might have made it a joke but I actually really want it to be done.
