Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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- Belgrade,Serbia
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trooperist
Cinnamon Roll AI
Well it's not like we were going to drop everything and build a bay on Columbia before Stage 5 is complete.
Though it would be nice to know so we can imagine all those golden opportunities.
Though it would be nice to know so we can imagine all those golden opportunities.
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- Mid-Atlantic
I dunno. In my ideal world, we might well have one turn where we almost finish Columbia Phase 5, and then on a subsequent turn or two we "tap" it to completion with, say, 1-3 dice. Because I don't want to overspend dice on Columbia.
In which case there could well be a turn where we're working on the first of the bays alongside of the last construction of the Phase 5 main body of the station.
But this turn was not that turn, in my opinion. So as far as I'm concerned, no harm, no foul- though we'd all be very interested to see the bays at any time!
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- USA
Hopefully, we don't just go for whatever bay packs people in like sardines. I'd like living conditions to at least match having a apartment or small house level for families.
I just worry that 20k in space won't be possible unless we start stacking people like firewood in personal sleep pods or something.
I just worry that 20k in space won't be possible unless we start stacking people like firewood in personal sleep pods or something.
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- Mid-Atlantic
I don't think it'll necessarily be that bad, especially given our proven willingness to throw Free dice around and the fact that the alloy foundries are apparently helping.
But we really, really need to get a good look at what our second-generation space habitat options look like. Because we need to move beyond Columbia to either a quite sizeable moon base or a big city-station, and either way by 2065, and either way, that installation is probably going to need to hold something in the range of 5000-10000 people no matter how densely we pack people into Columbia.
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- USA
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[X] Plan Attempting To Grow Cat Ears
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Yeah, pretty clear who the winner is now.
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- Mid-Atlantic
Well, I hope I didn't disappoint people too badly.
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- USA
We've had some pretty big swings before but unless someone jumps in with new information or a super compelling argument I'd be fine with calling it early.
Oledoms
Friesmancer
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- Mid-Atlantic
Ehhh, a lot of things could happen depending on how the dice play out. Making a good faith effort to get one of the two crown jewel stations done in a reasonably timely manner will help clear our docket so we can concentrate on finishing the other one.
And one big difference is that we have no specific need to build Shala's bays, but we definitely need Columbia's bays. So it makes more sense to be working on Shala Phase 5 alongside Columbia bays than to be in a position where Shala is finished and we're waiting on Columbia Phase 5.
Shala probaby has at least one flavor of farm-housing bay.
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- Mid-Atlantic
It would be convenient if that proved to be the case.
At the same time, I'm thinking about all the arguments for why it would be saddening if we just load Columbia down with six maximum-density commieblock bays. And I think all those arguments apply even more firmly to Shala. So I'd very much prefer to let the Shala bays wait and not integrate them into the "March to 20,000" overall plan, personally. I want an orbital nature preserve or an orbital arboretum cultivating all the beautiful flowers you hardly see on Earth or something like that, not "Farm Village In Space."
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- Mid-Atlantic
I don't disagree.
Furthermore, this is a prototype station, so we want to test a variety of different layouts, options, and facilities, not maximize how much we have of any one thing. Efficiency may force us to deviate from this ideal somewhat, but we shouldn't deviate from it entirely.
The one thing we should remember, though, is that no one's going to have to stay on Columbia for long. Within a relatively short time (five years) there will be quite a bit of space habitat capacity not on Columbia. Within ten or fifteen years, Columbia will be the address of only a tiny fraction of our space population.
So if the station isn't to people's liking, there will hopefully be a different space place for them to live, at least subject to the limits of our ability to provide acceptable accommodation and the need to actually move people off Earth and get a viable population base up there in case tiberium goes kaboom.
Farm village in space does have a nice vibe though, just saying.
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- USA
Rather push Shala ahead instead of bays, and this as someone who wants gravitic bay sooner than later. In part because the 20k objective is going to take a lot of effort and until we see the followup stations we do not know how much effort they will need.
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- USA
It's probably worth doing the fusion and gravitic bays pretty soon. The sooner we get space travel solved the easier it will be for moon bases and more space deliveries and resources.
I'm picturing a giant domed oval station covered in fields with habitation in the center, rotating so all the fields get the required amount of sunlight. And other similar stations covered with trees and grass for animal husbandry.
Even later animal reserve stations that are just enormous habitats meant to simulate and sustain specific biomes. Jungles and plains and mountains and forests and deserts.
...not sure about water based habitats. Deep sea might be a write off. Not sure how to simulate that or open ocean ones.
Maybe a few aquarium stations that just try to keep samples of everything alive?
That will absolutely be a thing.
I'm picturing a giant domed oval station covered in fields with habitation in the center, rotating so all the fields get the required amount of sunlight. And other similar stations covered with trees and grass for animal husbandry.
Even later animal reserve stations that are just enormous habitats meant to simulate and sustain specific biomes. Jungles and plains and mountains and forests and deserts.
...not sure about water based habitats. Deep sea might be a write off. Not sure how to simulate that or open ocean ones.
Maybe a few aquarium stations that just try to keep samples of everything alive?