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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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sunrise said:
The later in the plan we do income increasing actions the fewer turns we get the income from them before reallocation so it is better to do +income first and the refits later if we do them at all and not at this time.
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Do keep in mind that energy is HI dice and logistics is Infra, both of which are in far greater demand. While refits are pure Tib which can be easily spared right now.
 
Note for the planmakers, MARVs should be 20 rpd, not 25. That was a mistake that I made because I used a number from before a general recosting.
 
Karugus said:
Edit: I'm deeply afraid of how much this war is going to cost us. And I don't think that fear is wrong, and I think it ought be acknowledged. I think we're going to lose entire Zones tbh. Not when we just saw a successful missile strike, not when Bintang has been arguably the most successful warlord. Not when it doesn't look like NOD will get another chance after this.
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We have been told, several times, by Ithillid that the current situation regarding our military (so long as we keep using all our Military dice) is "how hard do we want to be winning?" You are coming across as way more fearful that is warranted by the situation, and I think it is actually damaging your message.
 
Karugus said:
War is coming.
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I don't necessarily agree with this, but I would appreciate responses. If the logic is sound- and I think parts of it are true- then Nod has every incentive to launch an offensive as soon as possible.

If they wait for us to complete all of our current projects and then turn our improved industrial potential towards the military, Nod will be in a very bad place. I can see the logic behind beginning Tiberium War Four now, rather than waiting as GDI's strategic position grows stronger.
 
dptullos said:
I don't necessarily agree with this, but I would appreciate responses. If the logic is sound- and I think parts of it are true- then Nod has every incentive to launch an offensive as soon as possible.

If they wait for us to complete all of our current projects and then turn our improved industrial potential towards the military, Nod will be in a very bad place. I can see the logic behind beginning Tiberium War Four now, rather than waiting as GDI's strategic position grows stronger.
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Yeah but the Red Zones are retreating and that takes some amount of pressure from NOD especially the little warlords.
 
Dmol8 said:
Yeah but the Red Zones are retreating and that takes some amount of pressure from NOD especially the little warlords.
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The Red Zones are retreating, which is a good thing. It also means that Nod is under slightly less pressure, because the growth of Red Zones isn't driving Nod civil war as heavily armed refugees try to claim territory in shrinking Yellow Zones.

Major Nod warlords can look at the situation and see that GDI is stronger this year than we were last year. Our strategic position has improved incalculably since the start of the quest, and we've started actively winning hearts and minds in the Yellow Zones that Nod relies on for recruits. I am terrible at mechanics, and I don't really understand the workings of the various plans, but I do see the logic behind Nod starting the war as soon as possible. If they wait for us to finish the Philadelphia and build a decent stockpile of shells and add some Fortress Cities, they'll be in a much worse position to fight a major war.
 
On one hand Kargus is not entirely wrong. There are a lot of places where you have basically brute forced your military into being good via throwing mountains of money at it, rather than putting together mutually reinforcing technologies and systems. And there are a lot of places where you can spend a few turns pushing out upgrade packages and more supplies and significantly increase your military edge with small investments.
At the same time, you do have a noticeable edge in military affairs, and on average across a large pool of battles, you will win much more often than you lose, and turn a fair number of major defeats into minor ones.
 
So, having stolen BOTCommander's plan, I have now tweaked it, and made one I like a bit better, but still makes it highly likely to complete Philly next turn.
[X]Plan I want Philly
[X] Plan I want Philly Pacifiers Edition

[X]Plan I want Philly v2
Infrastructure 5 Dice 105R
-[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 3) 302/650 3 Dice 45R 2%
-[X] Suborbital Shuttle Service (Phase 1) 0/200 2 dice 60R 23%
Heavy Industry 4 dice 85R
-[X] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plants (Phase 3) 125/300 3 dice 60R 86%
-[X] Blue Zone Heavy Industrial Sectors 0/500 1 die 25R
LCI 4 Dice 80R
-[X] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 3) 4/320 4 Dice 80R 28%
Agriculture 3 Dice 40R
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays (Stage 2) 291/350 2 dice 20R 99%
-[X] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development 0/40 1 Die 20R 97%
Tiberium 6 Dice 75R
-[X] Railgun Harvester Factories
--[X] Porto 1 Die 0/70 10R 75%
--[X] Vladivostok 0/70 1 Die 10R 75%
--[X] Bissau 0/70 1 Die 10R 75%
--[X] Maputo 0/70 1 Die 10R 75%
--[X] Dandong 0/70 1 Die 10R 75%
-[X] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 0/40 1 Die 25R 100%
Orbital 5+7 dice 240R
-[X] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5) 48/1425 12 Dice 240R 12/median 19 dice
Services 3 dice 45R
-[X] Green Zone Teacher Colleges 149/200 1 die 5R 86%
-[X] Advanced Electronic Video Assistant Development 0/60 1 die 20R 82%
-[X] Early Prototype General Artificial Intelligence Development 0/120 1 die 20R 22%
Military 6 dice 70R
-[X] Tube Artillery Deployment 184/200 1 die 15R 100%
-[X] Orbital Defense Laser Development 0/40 1 die 20R 99%
-[X] Naval Defense Laser Refits 270/330 1 die 15R 74%
-[X] Havoc Scout Mech Deployment
--[X] Brest 0/110 1 die 10R 29%
--[X] Seoul 0/110 1 die 10R 29%
-[X]Security Review 1 die
Bureaucracy 3D
-[X]Security Review (Military) 1D + 3D
Total: 740R
 
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[]Plan I want Philly v2
[] Plan Derpy
[]Plan I want Philly
[] Plan Chimeraguard
 
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[X] Plan Factories
-[X] Infra 5/5 dice 70R
--[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 3) 302/650 1 dice 15R
--[X] Communal Housing Experiments 72/140 1 die 10R 74%
--[X] Integrated Cargo System 0/800 3 dice 45R 3/11 median
-[X] Heavy Ind 4/4 +2 free dice 110R
--[X] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 3) 125/300 2 dice 40R 35%
--[X] Nuuk Heavy Robotics Foundry (Phase 1) 0/160 2 dice 40R 49%
--[X] Tokyo Chip Fabricator (Phase 1) 0/125 2 dice 30R 78%
-[X] L&CI 4/4 dice 80R
--[X] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 3) 4/320 4 dice 80R 28%
-[X] Agri 3/3 dice 40R
--[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays (Stage 2) 291/350 1 die 10R 73%
--[X] Yellow Zone Purification Facilities (Phase 2) 12/160 1 die 10R 1/2 median
--[X] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development 0/40 1 die 20R 97%
-[X] Tiberium 6/6 dice 140R
--[X] Red Zone Containment Lines (Stage 5) 74/180 2 dice 50R 95%
--[X] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 12) 29/130 1 die 25R 44%
--[X] Offshore Tiberium Harvester Stations 0/200 2 dice 40R 10PS 28%
--[X] Improved Tiberium Containment Facilities Development 0/40 1 die 25R 100%
-[X] Orb Ind 5/5 +2 free dice 140R
--[X] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 5) 32/1425 7 dice 140R (7/20 median)
-[X] Services 4/4 45R
--[X] Green Zone Teacher Colleges 149/200 1 die 5R 86%
--[X] Tissue Replacement Therapy Development 0/60 1 die 20R 82%
--[X] Domestic Animal Programs 0/200 2 dice 20R 17%
-[X] Military 6/6 +3 free dice 110R
--[X] Security Review
--[X] Reclamator Hub Red Zone 7-South 51/105 1 dice 20R 80%
--[X] Pacifier Mobile Artillery Vehicle Deployment 90/120 1 die 10R 100%
--[X] Tube Artillery Deployment 184/200 1 die 15R 100%
--[X] Orca Refit Deployment 0/200 2 dice 30R 14%
--[X] Naval Defense Laser Refits 270/330 1 die 15R 74%
--[X] Havoc Scout Deployment Brest 0/110 1 die 10R 29%
--[X] Havoc Scout Deployment Seoul 0/110 1 die 10R 29%
-[X] Bureau 3/3
--[X] Security Review Military DC50 3 dice 100%

7/7 Free Dice
735R/740R

We have worryingly low Capitol Goods and Logistics, but I don't feel like existing plans are paying enough attention to that.
Infra: Slow burn on Housing. Aiming to get ICS ready for when we have the Capitol Goods to run it.
Heavy: More power needed. Laying the ground work for both Tokyo and Nuuk.
LCI: Reykjavik!
Agri: I don't think continued Perennials is something to chase, so aiming to improve YZ agri production.
Tiberium: Would really like more income before we start allocating dice to Refits.
Orbital: This is actually less on Philly than I would like, but the sudden demand for Havoc Scouts and a Hub eats too many dice.
Services: Not chasing AI for the moment, as that costs PS and we may need that for continuing Offshore Tiberium Harvesting.
Military: Rollouts.
 
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