Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

Rakuhn said:

Good news is that right now the Steel Talons are also interested in systems (such as shield tech), so we aren't technically ignoring them right at the moment.

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It's nice that there interested in it and all but we now have a requirement to build all of the current Steel Talon options and at least one factory of each the longer we put that off the more rushed we'll be with it by the end of this plan. So I'd prefer to do it now then later.

[] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
[] Plan All Into Mil

[X] Plan All Into Mil

ConfusedCanuck said:

It's nice that there interested in it and all but we now have a requirement to build all of the current Steel Talon options and at least one factory of each the longer we put that off the more rushed we'll be with it by the end of this plan. So I'd prefer to do it now then later.

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Then you probably want "Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me" or "Plan Wartime Factory Refits and orca's". Because any plan that has us developing sonic artillery is going to delay any development of Havocs for at least two additional turns, since they occupy the same dice niche. If we have one, the priority for the other goes down significantly.

[X] Plan All Into Mil

[X] Plan All Into Mil
Haven't been keeping up with discussion for a long time, but have the benefits or lead ons of EVA research been brought up?

[X] Plan Logistics, Tiberium and Expansion
[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
[X] Plan All Into Mil

[X] Plan Wartime Factory Refits and orca's

[X] Plan Wartime Factory Refits and orca's

I really want to get the Orca refits done

sunrise said:

We have zone armor factories building suits by hand fixing that is a higher priority than keeping a capital goods reserve.
The new Orca's will provide support to ZOCOM and fly of the existing fleet carriers

[X] Plan Wartime Factory Refits and orca's
Infra 5/5 60R +21
-[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 3) 154/300 3 die 30R 95%
-[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 549/650 2 dice 30R 91%
HI 4/4 80R +16
-[X] Automated Civilian Shipyards 139/250 2 dice 40R 80%
-[X] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 2) 22/300 2 dice 40R
LCI 1/4 0R +11
-[X] Security Review 1 die
Agri 1/3 10R +11
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays (Stage 2)
-[X] Security Review 1 die
Tiberium 6/6 135R +24
-[X] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 11) 46/130 1 dice 25R 56%
-[X] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 11) 30/180 3 Dice 90R 96%
-[X] Railgun Harvester Factories (Albany) 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
-[X] Railgun Harvester Factories (Maputo) 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
Orbital 5/5 75R +9
-[X] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 4) 100/715 3 dice 60R
-[X] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 5) (Final) 79/135 1 die 10R 69%
-[X] Nanotube Hull Panelling Development (New) 0/30 1 die 5R 95%
Services 4/4 70R +16
-[X] Green Zone Teacher Colleges (New) 0/200 1 die 5R 0%
-[X] Remedial Education Program Expansions (New) 0/120 1 die 5R 12%
-[X] NOD Research Initiatives 124/160 1 die 30R 100%
-[X] Scrin Research Institutions 328/350 1 die 30R 100%
Military 6/6+4 free 155R +13
-[X] Wartime Factory Refits (Phase 2) 52/90 1 die 20R 91%
-[X] Shimmer Shield Development 0/60 1 die 20R 74%
-[X] Naval Point Defense 0/330 5 dice 75R 52%
-[X] Orca Refit Deployment 0/200 2 dice 30R 9%
-[X] Hydrofoil Shipyards (Busan-Ulsan) 69/85 1 die 10R 100%
Bureau 3/3+2 free +11
-[X] Security Reviews (LCI) 2 dice +1 LCI 98%
-[X] Lobby For Establishment of Negotiation Corps (New) 3 dice 91%
Free 6/6
4 bureau, 2 mil

585/585 + 5 reserve

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You don't say how many dice you're putting in on the line for Perennials.
Did you forget to put the security review for Agriculture in the Bureaucracy section?
I also don't like going so all-in on Tidal Power plants, because the next phase is pretty garbage.

And, because I want to get the Negotiation Corps set up, a variant on Derpmind's plan.
[X] Plan All Into Mil, Diplomacy Edition
-[X] Infra 4/5 dice 55R
--[X] Tidal Power Plants (Phase 3) 154/300 1 die 10R (1/2 median)
--[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 548/650 3 dice 45R 99% (3/10 median Stage 3)
-[X] Heavy Ind 4/4 dice 80R
--[X] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 2) 22/300 2 dice 40R (2/4 median)
--[X] Automated Civilian Shipyards 139/250 2 dice 40R 80%
-[X] L&CI 0/4 dice
-[X] Agri 0/3 dice
-[X] Tiberium 6/6 dice 130R
--[X] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 11) 46/130 2 dice 50R 98% (13% Stage 12)
--[X] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 11) 30/180 2 dice 60R 63%
--[X] Railgun Harvester Factories Albany 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
--[X] Railgun Harvester Factories Porto 0/70 1 die 10R 70%
-[X] Orb Ind 5/5 dice 75R
--[X] GDSS Philadelphia II (Phase 4) 100/715 3 dice 60R (3/9 median)
--[X] Nanotube Hull Panelling Development 0/30 1 die 5R 95%
--[X] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 5) 79/135 1 die 10R 69%
-[X] Services 4/4 dice 70R
--[X] Green Zone Teacher Colleges 0/200 1 die 5R (1/3 median)
--[X] Remedial Education Program Expansions 0/120 1 die 5R 12%
--[X] NOD Research Initiatives 124/160 1 die 30R 100%
--[X] Scrin Research Institutions 328/350 1 die 30R 100%
-[X] Military 6/6 +6 free dice 180R
--[X] Wartime Factory Refits (Phase 2) 52/90 1 die 20R 91%
--[X] Shimmer Shield Development 0/60 1 die 20R 74%
--[X] Sonic Mobile Artillery Vehicle Development 0/40 1 die 10R 94%
--[X] Tube Artillery Deployment 0/200 3 dice 45R 55%
--[X] Hydrofoil Shipyards (Busan-Ulsan) 69/85 1 die 10R 100%
--[X] Naval Defense Laser Refits (New) 0/330 5 dice 75R 52%
-[X] Bureau 3/3 dice
--[X] Lobby For Establishment of Negotiation Corps (New) DC 130 3 dice 15PS 91%

590R/590R 6/6 Free Dice

Edit: since plan changed to be identical,
[X] Plan All Into Mil

[X]Plan Reap Nanotubes

EDIT: Voted in different post

[X] Plan All Into Mil
[X] Plan All Into Mil, Diplomacy Edition
[X] Plan Wartime Factory Refits and orca's

[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
[X] Plan All Into Mil
[X] Plan All Into Mil, Diplomacy Edition

[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
[X] Plan All Into Mil, Diplomacy Edition

[X] Plan Logistics, Tiberium and Expansion
[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
[X] Plan All Into Mil

Lightwhispers said:

And, because I want to get the Negotiation Corps set up, a variant on Derpmind's plan.
[X] Plan All Into Mil, Diplomacy Edition

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I'll switch to doing the Negotiation Corps if people want me to. I did a Security Review instead because 91% still leaves a significant 9% chance of failure, but if most everyone's ok with only 3 dice then I'll make the change.

Finally got around to updating Dice Cost Analysis again.


Does anyone want an Informational Threadmark? I can't promise regular updates.

Derpmind said:

I'll switch to doing the Negotiation Corps if people want me to. I did a Security Review instead because 91% still leaves a significant 9% chance of failure, but if most everyone's ok with only 3 dice then I'll make the change.

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I'm mostly OK with a 9% chance of failure.

I'm more worried about income at this point, actually. We would need a budget of around 680 RpT to have our current glut of deployment projects--at 15R/die--be affordable without sacrificing elsewhere. That mandates two glaciers or one glacier and two stages of RZ Mining.

[X] Plan Logistics, Tiberium and Expansion

[X] Plan Logistics, Tiberium and Expansion
[X] Plan All Into Mil, Diplomacy Edition
[X] Plan All Into Mil
[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me

Lightwhispers said:

You don't say how many dice you're putting in on the line for Perennials.

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Thanks for checking my plan fixed the errors.

[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
[X] Plan All Into Mil

Far too late in the voting process for my proposal to get much traction after modification, insofar as it differs from the leading plans. Personally I question the advisability of abandoning plans to get two phases of glacier mines this turn, though...

@Derpmind 's plan doesn't invest enough in the Philadelphia for me.

[X] Plan I will get off this rock and take you with me
Spaaaace.

[X] Plan Logistics, Tiberium and Expansion
I respect this plan. My first thought was that @Void Stalker could afford to flip one shipyard die to fusion because with only one phase of glaciers on the table it's not as critical that the shipyard project finish next turn, specifically... but then I realized that @Void Stalker 's not doing a "Plan B" option like a die on commsats to reduce our exposure in case of failure. With the shipyards being such a load-bearing element of the plan, he's right to go for three dice the way I was doing in "Surefire Shipping," I think.

[X] Plan Heavy Income with Factory Refit (for ZOCOM)