Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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Ithillid said:

Okay, so basically, when it comes to naval aviation and ship design, as I think about it (and if I am wrong, I am wrong, and people can correct me) there are (speaking very broadly) two types of mission. Patrol, and Strike.

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For combat aircraft, absolutely, however Transportation is another (very broad) naval aviation mission. The C2 greyhound, MH-53E Sea Dragon, and V-22 Osprey are all examples of naval aircraft that perform this role. The whole point is to transport high priority cargo and passengers (including medevacs) either between ships, or between ship and shore. I think the V-35 Ox was mentioned somewhere, and that is the aircraft that would fly this type of mission for the GDI.


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[X] Plan: By Sea and Air
Infrastructure (4/5 dice) 60 Resources
-[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2), 4 dice (60 Resources) 83%
Heavy Industry (4/5 dice) 80 Resources
-[X] Automated Civilian Shipyards, 4 dice (80 Resources) 68%
Light and Chemical Industry (4 dice) 0 Resources
-Idle
Agriculture (1/3 dice) 20 Resources
-[X] Wadmalaw Kudzu Development 0/40 1 die 20R 91%
Tiberium (6 dice + 2 Free) 225 Resources
-[X] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 10), 3 dice (75 Resources) 99%
-[X] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 10), 5 dice (150 Resources) 73% chance for Stages 9+10
Orbital (4 dice) 40 Resources
-[X] Expand Orbital Communications Network (Phase 4), 4 dice (40 Resources) 98%
Services (1/4 dice)
-[X] Security Review, 1 die (unrolled)
Military (6 dice) 85 Resouces
-[X] Orca Refit Deployment 0/200 3 dice (45 Resources) 52%
-[X] Zone Emergency Medical Evacuation Vehicle Deployment (Sydney), 1 die (10 Resources) 97%
-[X] Tube Artillery Development, 1 die (15 Resources) 93%
-[X] Naval Defense Lasers, 1 die (15 Resources) 68%
Bureaucracy (3 dice + 4 Free)
-[X] Security Reviews (Services), 2 dice 98%
-[X] Yellow Zone Qualifications Initiatives, 3 dice 82%
-[X] Private Industrial Automation, 1 die (unrolled)
Total cost: 510/515 Resources

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[X] Plan Infra Arco Revolution

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EDIT: Replaced, reposted later.

[X] Plan Trains, Ships and Space Phones

[X] Plan Trains, Ships and Space Phones

[X]Plan Draft I've been Working on the Railroad~
[X] Plan Infra Arco Revolution

[X] Plan Arcologies, Income and Rollouts

doruma1920 said:

For combat aircraft, absolutely, however Transportation is another (very broad) naval aviation mission. The C2 greyhound, MH-53E Sea Dragon, and V-22 Osprey are all examples of naval aircraft that perform this role. The whole point is to transport high priority cargo and passengers (including medevacs) either between ships, or between ship and shore. I think the V-35 Ox was mentioned somewhere, and that is the aircraft that would fly this type of mission for the GDI.

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@Ithillid

Basically, what Doruma is getting at is that carriers tend to keep around a handful of aircraft that exist for the sole purpose of flying cargo/passengers around, just for utility.

I'm pretty sure an Ox is big enough by comparison to an Orca that it would be tough to fly one off our escort carriers (the V-35 can airlift entire armored fighting vehicles, right?). But there's probably something that serves the role. On the other hand, it's not something relevant directly to combat operations, so it can be safely ignored as below Treasury's level of abstraction, sort of like how we know the military must have staff cars to transport senior officers in, but we don't get tasked with designing or upgrading them.

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[X] Plan Trains, Ships and Space Phones

[X] Plan Arcologies, Income and Rollouts

[X] Plan Infra Arco Revolution

[X] Plan Mad Science is Mad Expensive

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Political‌ ‌Support:‌ ‌70
SCIENCE Meter: 3/4
Free‌ ‌Dice:‌ ‌6‌ ‌
Fusion‌ ‌Dice:‌ ‌12
Housing: +4 (36 Low Quality)
Energy: +15 (+2 Reserve)
Logistics: +4
Food: +21 (+8 Reserve)
Health +9 (-4 Consumed)
Capital Goods: +9
Consumer Goods: +25
Labor: +24
Tiberium Processing Capacity: (1450/1720)
Yellow Zone
Water: +6

Infrastructure +20
Heavy Industry +15
Light and Chemical Industry +10
Agriculture +10
Tiberium +23
Orbital Industry +8
Services +15
Military +12
Bureaucracy +10
+5 to Development Projects
+5 to Technology Working Groups
+5 to Station Building

Last Security Review:
Orbital 2 turn ago 2057 Q4
Heavy Ind 3 turns ago 2057 Q3
Tiberium 4 turns ago 2057 Q2
Bureaucracy 5 turns ago 2057 Q1
Infrastructure 6 turns ago 2055 Q4
Agriculture 6 turns ago 2056 Q4
Military 9 turns ago 2056 Q1
Light/Chem 12 turns ago 2055 Q2
Services 15 turns ago 2054 Q3

[X] Plan Running the Eyewall v. 2.4
Infrastructure 5/5 Dice 75 Resources
-[X] Blue Zone Arcologies (Stage 2) 409/650 15 Resources per Die -2E on Completion, 5 Dice = 75 Resources
Heavy Industry 4/5 Dice 60 Resources
-[X] Automated Civilian Shipyards 0/250 20 Resources per Die -1CapG -4E on Completion, 3 Die = 60 Resources
Light and Chemical Industry 1/4 Dice 0 Resources
-[X] Security Reviews Light and Chemical Industry 1 Die
Agriculture 3/3 Dice 30 Resources
-[X] Perennial Aquaponics Bays (Stage 2) 123/350 10 Resources per Die, 3 Dice = 30 Resources
Tiberium 6/6 Dice 150 Resources
-[X] Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Stage 10) 1/130 25 Resources per Die, 2 Die = 50 Resources
-[X] Tiberium Glacier Mining (Stage 10) 18/180 30 resources per Die -2Log on Completion, 3 Dice = 90 Resources
-[X] Railgun Harvester Development 0/40 10 Resources per Die, 1 Die = 10 resources
Orbital 4/4 Dice 40 Resources
-[X] Orbital Cleanup (Stage 8) 13/90 15 Resources per Dice 10 Resources per Fusion Die, 4 Fusion Dice = 40 Resources
Services 4/4 Dice 90 Resources
-[X] NOD Research Initiatives 100/160 30 Resources per Die, 1 Die = 30 Resources
-[X] Scrin Research Institutions 160/350 30 Resources per Die, 2 Die = 60 Resources
-[X] Security Reviews Services 1 Die
Military 6/6 Dice 70 Resources
-[X] Ferro Aluminum Armor Testing (New) 0/30 5 Resources per Die, 1 Die = 5 Resources
-[X] Zone Emergency Medical Evacuation Vehicle Deployment Sydney 49/80 10 Resources per Die -1Lab -1E on Completion, 1 Die = 10 Resources
-[X] Orca Refit Deployment 0/200 15 Resources per Die -1 CapG on Completion, 2 Die = 30 Resources
-[X] Railgun Munitions Development 0/60 10 Resources per Die, 1 Die = 10 Resources
-[X] Naval Defense Lasers (New) 0/60 15 Resources per Die, 1 Die = 15 Resources
Bureaucracy 3/3 Dice + 6 Free Die
-[X] Security Reviews Light and Chemical Industry 2 Die
-[X] Security Reviews Services 2 Die
-[X] Focus Reallocation 1 Die
--[X] Heavy Industry
--[X] Orbital
--[X] Services
-[X] Yellow Zone Qualifications Initiatives 4 Dice

75+60+0+30+150+40+90+70 = 515/515

Alright so this is my plan for this turn:

- 5 Dice on Blue Zone Arcologies for a 98% chance and an Average DC 36 to complete.

- 3 Dice on Automated Civilian Shipyards for a 23% chance and an Average DC 64 to complete.

- Light and Chemical Industry only does a Security Review

- 3 Dice on Perennial Aquaponics Bays for a 28% chance and an Average DC 61 to complete.

- 2 Die on Red Zone Tiberium Harvesting for a 78% chance and an Average DC 42 to complete.
- 3 Dice on Tiberium Glacier Mining for a 93% chance and an Average DC 34 to complete.
- 1 Die on Railgun Harvester Development for a 100% chance and a DC 0 to complete.

- 4 Fusion Dice on Orbital Cleanup for a 92% chance and an Average DC 34 to get enough extra resources to count as an extra Glacier Mine for next turn.

- 1 Die on NOD Research Initiatives for a 76% chance and a DC 30 for completion.
- 2 Die on Scrin Research Institutions for a 22% chance and an Average DC of 73 for completion.
- 1 Die on a Security Review for Services.

- 1 Die on Ferro Aluminium Armor Testing for a 100% chance and DC 0 for completion.
- 1 Die on ZEMEV Sydney for a 97% chance and a DC 5 for completion.
- 2 Die on Orca Refit Deployment for a 8% chance and an Average DC 82 for completion.
- 1 Die on Railgun Munitions Development for a 73% chance and a DC 28 for completion.
- 1 Die on Naval Defense Lasers for a 73% chance and a DC 28 for completion (percentages are information from @Derpmind's Probability Array).

- 2 Die on Light and Chemical Industry Security Review for a 98% chance and an Average DC 13 for successfully completing it.
- 2 Die on Services Security Review for a 98% chance and an Average DC 13 for successfully completing it.
- 1 Die on Focus Reallocation to switch a Die from Tiberium to Orbital for 5 Tiberium and 5 Orbital configuration.
- 4 Dice on Yellow Zone Qualification Initiatives for a 97% chance and an Average DC 22 for completing it fully and with best results for Labor gain.

- So this plan leaves us at a minimum of +8 Energy, +7 Capital Goods, +2 Logistics and +25 Labor in special resources.
- For average Resources gain for next turn we are looking at 595 minimum of Resources to work with this plan.

[X] Plan Running the Eyewall v. 2.4

It's a bit late, but here's my series of suggestion for countering new NOD developments.

Ithillid said:

In areas like the Chinese front, where technological progression has been significantly behind the others, laser rifles, and Centurion battle mechs have begun appearing alongside Barghests.

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More NOD lasers, infantry and anti-vehicle provide an impetus for getting more ablatives. I forgot whether or not Ablatives also protect infantry. If not, then that's an explanation for why Ground Forces want power armour. Lasers can also be countered well by artillery of the chemical and electromagnetic varieties (much hard to shoot down than missiles, can only shoot in line-of-sight), with synergy with the recon techs. Barghest proliferation could be countered with more missiles, lasers and the Wingman drones. The new bombers could deal with all of the above by blowing away NOD production and logistics but would need improved recon to find soft targets.

Ithillid said:

Gideon's Shield of Faith has been cropping up as far afield as Australia and the Russian steppe, providing mobile protection for Nod forces to protect them from incoming fire, although it is less than effective against indirect artillery. Similarly, the guided artillery systems developed by Krukov and Stahl have been discovered across Africa, with some warlords fielding both systems, to some apparent confusion.

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Oh dear, NOD getting the ability to provide mobile shields and counter-battery? Like I suspected, indirect fire does indeed counter the SoF. Except, NOD also knows that and will try to suppress our artillery. On top of improving existing sensors and artillery, a possible counter for this set of combined arms could be the airforce. I imagine that NOD can't keep those shields on permanently, so the airforce could take advantage of gaps in coverage.

Ithillid said:

Additionally, a new Nod submarine class, looking to be between five and seven thousand tons has been spotted operating around the South Pacific. Likely this is the work of Bintang, and it is almost certainly something that other Brotherhood operatives can and will use.

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As has been discussed, we probably need to reinforce the defensive navy (frigates) before moving on to expeditionary warfare. Rolling out more sensors could also reduce the stealth of NOD operatives.

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