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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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MrRobot said:
Probably isn't something like love, phalanx became a queen so it must something that she could have acess to maybe a direct exposure to enough raw magic, or just like the fallen on destiny that get bigger by feeding themselves more ether.
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She is being worshiped by an entire country, And we don't know her past maybe she was around before discord and pretended to be someone extremely popular

Jam jar binks said:
We are getting nowhere fast. So you know what this calls for? Spying and Science!

We need more info on like everything to do with the hive, as well as more changlings on our side. Anything else really is only speculation.
Also I want another species in the empire so... recon!
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Please can we do that, There is still so much we don't know about changlings
 
The Void King said:
She is being worshiped by an entire country, And we don't know her past maybe she was around before discord and pretended to be someone extremely popular



Please can we do that, There is still so much we don't know about changlings
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Kinda "the lady" is worshiped a entirely fabricated image.
Hell Garick overhyped public image is more true to the person than him.
So it really count?
 
what the last few pages of discussions have come up to:

1)Phalanx is much less sympathetic than we ever hoped for (not that we expected much else)
2)No, we still don't know what turns a proto-queen into a queen. We only have theories.
3)On that note, we also don't know if the "share love" thing Thorax did in canon is possible here. I kinda hope it isn't, personally.
4)Long term Phalanx HAS to be dethroned. She still doesn't know we know though, so we can prepare as much as possible and predict her actions


...hey, quick question: was Rose already our "guest" when Mareia was killed? Could she be the actual killer and put Maretonia in chaos to "help" the gryphus empire before joining it (and also because she seems to despise slavery herself)?
 
Pittauro said:
...hey, quick question: was Rose already our "guest" when Mareia was killed? Could she be the actual killer and put Maretonia in chaos to "help" the gryphus empire before joining it (and also because she seems to despise slavery herself)?
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No, Puting Maretonia into chaos would hurt the slaves more than helping them, That and if she was doing it than the Abolitionist would be in a better position rather than "Last stand everywhere!"

So I put it instead as Queen Phalanx seeing a friendlier but stronger neighbour and deciding to put it against an equal in power but hostile neighbour in order to get rid Maretonia and both weaken and test the strength of Gryphus
 
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The Void King said:
No, Puting Maretonia into chaos would hurt the slaves more than helping them, That and if she was doing it than the Abolitionist would be in a better position rather than "Last stand everywhere!"

So I put it instead as Queen Phalanx seeing a friendlier but stronger neighbour being put against an equal in power but hostile neighbour in order to get rid Maretonia and both weaken and test the strength of Gryphus
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It did not weakin us at all though.
 
We probably sacred phalanx, tankfully she is arrogant and think we are blissfully unaware of her, instead of she being priority target number 1 right now.
 
The Void King said:
No, Puting Maretonia into chaos would hurt the slaves more than helping them, That and if she was doing it than the Abolitionist would be in a better position rather than "Last stand everywhere!"

So I put it instead as Queen Phalanx seeing a friendlier but stronger neighbour and deciding to put it against an equal in power but hostile neighbour in order to get rid Maretonia and both weaken and test the strength of Gryphus
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it would hurt them in the short term, sure, but if she was confident enough we'd intervene in their favour she could consider it an acceptable cost.

Simply put, EVERYONE suffers in any revolution or war, no matter their side, unless one side is massively superior to the other. And yet those revolutions and war happen anyway, sometime because they're seen as better than the alternative of "maintaining the status quo".

Also we were already supporting the abolitionists, Rose would have no reason to expect us to retract our support after Mareia's death, and plenty of reason to expect us to do more instead.

...also she might have underestimated the problems that would follow an immediate intervention, like uniting all non-abolitionists factions against us.

mh... I COULD see Rose doing that, though all in all I don't think it's very likely. Definitely possible though.
 
I more in the camp of it being phalanx order.
It directly weakens her primary enemy. Getting them out of the way wold allow her develop he internal defenses since she is sandwiched between the 2 world know superpowers.
 
Meh, I don't really care about the changelings in the short-term. When their time comes to be dealt with, it'll come. All we can do for the moment is just passively gather more information and build more spy networks. No reason to get worked up about it or conspire about how to counter their potential plans.
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
Meh, I don't really care about the changelings in the short-term. When their time comes to be dealt with, it'll come. All we can do for the moment is just passively gather more information and build more spy networks. No reason to get worked up about it or conspire about how to counter their potential plans.
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But what else are we supposed to do? Though I do agree this topic as gone far enough now
 
The Void King said:
But what else are we supposed to do? Though I do agree this topic as gone far enough now
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What we do every night, The Void King. try to take over the world! mostly through friendship and trade.

generally speaking we just have nothing to do right now. The interlude+omake were nice, but they don't really give us anything new to talk about.

...well, except a bit about Rose's backstory, but it's more confirmation of what we knew/expected and not much else.

Right now we're mostly waiting for the results of the neighpon actions, and THEN the next turn and what options we get about Maretonia (and everything else, obviously)
 
PyrrosWarrior said:
You had me in the first half. Lost me in the second with the "friendship" part. Brain, I think you've been around Pinky too much :V
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I'm going by historical precedents!

Sure, our armies helped a lot with both the Crystal Empire and Maretonia, but our influence over yakyakistan, Neighpon and Libertalia was mostly through friendship and trade.

Of course there's plenty of time for things to change.

Maretonia was mostly the result of subterfuge and a bit of open war, but we're not quite sure what the end result is yet, though we'll presumably have a LOT of influence over them no matter what happens for the next few decades at least.

Equestria is going to be our main rival, but it should be a friendly rival.

The Caribous are kind of our pet project right now.

Canterbury and the changelings are our only real threat as of right now, unless you count the still-not-officially-contacted dragons (...which we might have to, especially if we end up having to protect Maretonia from them).

...ah, the Minotaurs still have that little secret we haven't investigated, now that I think about it...
 
FictionPack said:
Love killed Sombra
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the third time. Though admittedly, for all his merits, Hardbeak didn't quite manage to make it stick the first two.

Honestly it was nearly disappointing he wasn't involved the third time... but who knows, maybe Sombra will be back one more time in the future. Canon showed that at the very least Discord was capable of doing that, and the comics had him return from... I think his surviving horn?
 
Pittauro said:
I'm going by historical precedents!

Sure, our armies helped a lot with both the Crystal Empire and Maretonia, but our influence over yakyakistan, Neighpon and Libertalia was mostly through friendship and trade.

Of course there's plenty of time for things to change.

Maretonia was mostly the result of subterfuge and a bit of open war, but we're not quite sure what the end result is yet, though we'll presumably have a LOT of influence over them no matter what happens for the next few decades at least.

Equestria is going to be our main rival, but it should be a friendly rival.

The Caribous are kind of our pet project right now.

Canterbury and the changelings are our only real threat as of right now, unless you count the still-not-officially-contacted dragons (...which we might have to, especially if we end up having to protect Maretonia from them).

...ah, the Minotaurs still have that little secret we haven't investigated, now that I think about it...
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The only idea I have for what the minotaurs have is that They eat people or they keep the one/s that do under there?
 
Yes but this is a thousand years pre-canon, so the kid friendliness is way lower, so the idea that the canibals live in the underground portions is hardly unbelievable.

Not saying that's what's going on, but that it would be on brand if it were.
 
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