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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
That's how I think it might play out if we ever have to fight an alicorn. Just replace the tennis ball with a black steel weapon someone threw.
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If Chrysalis actually would still exists later on in the timeline, would her throne be made of Orichalcum and if so could we replicate it's effects?
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I doubt you could make something like that out of Oricalcum. Chrysalis's throne obsorbed non-changeling magic and strengthened Chrysalis's magic with it. Orichalcum negates magic indiscriminately.
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Actually the implication is that the throne was made of orichalcum. Starswirl later uses some enchanter fragments of that throne to create an anti-teleportation ward around the castle in canterlot.
Assuming the throne IS made of orichalcum, then it probably means that either the changelings adapted to it (not impossible. they're CHANGELING, changing themselves to work around the orichalcum doesn't sound impossible), or they found out a way to enchant/modify the orichalcum so it wouldn't affect them.
Does orichalcum absorb magic though? I thought it negated magic. Maybe I'm thinking about this all wrong, but to me that seems like trying to make a sponge out of something water-proof.
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Was it ever stated that Orichalcum DOESN'T absorb magic? I don't remember.
Also where was it ever said that the throne strenghtened Chrysalis? Ithink they only ever mentioned it negating/absorbing non-ling magic.
There's also a chance that Questor misunderstood the absorb vs negate thing, or just modified it.
Or, admittedly, maybe the Black throne is just different. It was never outright STATED here that orichalcum = the material of the black throne. It was simply a natural conclusion, as the two things are pretty similar.
lockingbane
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You can make a sponge waterproof fairly easily if you know how.
lockingbane
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If you have a degree in chemistry and material science.... Well it depends on the liquid you need to soak up
I might be mistaken about that. I just figured that if the magic was being absorbed instead of being destroyed then it had to be going somewhere, like the queen sitting on it. I might be reading into it too much but I thought she was stronger on her own turf somehow since she seemed just as powerful as she was when she empowered by love for Candance during the wedding episode.
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*That we know of.
In the end its magic, and afiak there were never any defined limits. So for all we know orichalcum acts as a big ol chunk of iron does to radio; scatters it, rendering it useless. But 'lings could have a different freq of magic.
Or its just enchanted. or something else. Its magic.
Or it could be a currently unknown material that enhances magic instead of inhibiting it. 🤷♂️
So many possabilities.
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eh, maybe you're reading too much into it, but to be fair there's so LITTLE about it in canon that it's unavoidable.
What we see in canon: non-changeling magic doesn't work in a specific radius from the throne
what Thorax says: the throne absorbs that magic (for all we know he might be wrong, or Chryssy lied to him. how would he be able to tell the difference anyway?)
What we have in the quest: there's a black metal (reminiscent of the black stone throne) that seems to negate active magic. Right now it also works on changelings, as we experimented on Rose.
More from this quest: Changeling areas in Canterbury were mentioned to be areas of chaotic magic and/or dead magic. It's definitely possible that the current queen might be in possession of the throne.
Those are probably just orichalcum deposits in their territory. There's a good chance they have the means to produce black steel and just don't because they are more reliant on magic and don't consider it worth the effort. Then again they might have developed an earth pony version of the black guard that we haven't heard about but I doubt that would have escaped our attention.
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You would be surprised how hidden something can be, After all while our spies are masters at dealing with more simple enchantments, the Changelings most likely have access to the magic from before discord, Which just like technology in Gryphus and the Crystal empire was most likely much more advanced before discord came in and started weirdmageddon.
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Hard to say HOW MUCH more advanced though. Gryphons had THEORETICAL schematics for airships, but no actual airships.
Ponies, on the other hand, had at LEAST a Starswhirl in terms of magical knowledge, though it's hard to say how much of what he knew has been lost. He supposedly taught the princesses, so it's possible theyight slowly share what they learned from him...
In terms of technology alone though we likely vastly surpassed ancient gryphus already though.
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Like the the plans for the F@#king warforge ponies
lockingbane
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Im pretty eager tp make those again. An entire new race under our banner with unique abilities we can use to better our empire....
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Well assuming they are sapient and not, ya know, automatons going off their programing.
Bip bloop secret objective "be annoying as you can get away with to the diplomats" unlocked reassigning priorities bloop bip.