The Gilded Prince and his Gilded Cage (Canon)
@Questor Hey, long-time reader, first time omake-er! If you couldn't tell, Gawain's my favorite character, so I've always wanted to make an omake about him. Now, when there seems to be scant few details about what he's up to while something major is going on, I thought it would be the perfect time to go ahead.

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the Gilded Prince and his Gilded Cage

Prince Gawain Golden-Feather looks around at his personal quarters, full of all the opulence and luxury that an empire could provide, and, all too suddenly, feels a dizzying stab of emptiness pulse through his chest.

As he steps in, he stares blankly around himself, at sofas, paintings, curtains... The usual sharpness of his thoughtstream dull, he paces towards his bed, pressing a talon onto the soft comforter. Too soft. He grimaces, his famed stoic visage marred with a hollow-eyed anxiety. He did not climb onto the bed, stuck in this pose, staring at his own claw as it curls into a fist that draws waves of folds across the imperial fabric.

What was he doing here, of all places?

Here, in the northernmost part of the Empire, hundreds of miles from the border south, where, hundreds of miles further, in the heart of a dying country, was a ruin that used to be a capital.

Here, in the Imperial Palace, with his every need tended to, as Griffons and Diamond Dogs and Ponies of every color, every hide, go forth to form the great hammer that was the army of Gryphus, as twenty-five thousand worthy lives give their lifeblood towards the absolution of a land from a tyrant - and that was to make little mention of the countless logisticians, clerks, merchants, smiths, and innumerable other laborers to supply their claws, paws, and hooves.

Here, in a secluded room, the doors shut, as beyond it the highest heads of the Empire perform their administration, giving their every effort towards the organization, the strategy, the direction of the oncoming force; as legendary figures, idols of the citizenry everywhere nonetheless push themselves to the limit, for the sake of saving the lives of those they will never meet... Imperial or Maretonian.

Gawain looks up and around himself again, craning his neck at the too-familiar interior of his room. Guilt and fear flood into his mind like lightning, faster than he can control, as all the treacherous thoughts that he has been keeping at bay are uncorked, here, where no one can see his facade break. He sneers, pressing his other talon onto the bed as he slouches in exhaustion; not physical, but born of stress, his mind replaying all the things he's been hearing over the past few months - every little tick forwards in the clock to the Maretonian Campaign. The posters, the warehouses, Gisa's sudden annoyance with Redbeak... most of all, the faces on Mom and Dad. They were always full of adoration for him and his sisters, and they still are - but now he only gets to see his father as he's drifting from meeting to meeting, counsel to counsel, brow narrowed with the expression Gwyn once joked was his "merchant face".

How heavy must the weight lie on them. All of them. But what was he doing? He was Prince Gawain Golden-Feather of the Empire of Gryphus, Heir to the Lightbringer and agent of the Diplomatic Corps. He should be right in the thick of it, and yet still he felt like he was watching the world through a keyhole in a gilded, opulent, luxurious cage.

He exhales a shaky breath he did not notice he was breathing, trying to reign himself back in, even as his thoughts are drawn to earlier memories.

All his life, Gawain has lived in the shadow of war.

His very birth was punctuated by the battle of Wingbardy, just before Mad King Brochard was beheaded by a war hero - when the Kingdom of Griffonia became the Empire of Gryphus. He spent the last years of his childhood and the first years of his adolescence cowering in fear from the comfort of his palace, as thousands were fed to the monsters of Shadow King Sombra. It was only by the end of it that he first realized what war had truly meant, as he stared into the faces of innocent ponies shaken by trauma and torture. And when he became an adult, he left a potential life spent in scholarship to join the Diplomatic Corps, in order to maintain the peace innumerable beings died for. Like many griffons, he was defined by a war-culture. He prepared for it - board games and tomes of strategy, duels with spear, sword, and shield - nothing compared to an actual training regiment, but he was as military as any griff. It was just the way things had to be.

But now, war threatens to set the world on fire once again, and he was still cowering in its shadow, cowering in his palace. He's almost as old as Dad was when he became king, and still, he felt like that lost child, scared of war.

Hadn't he made a promise to himself, back then? He suddenly turns his head towards a shelf, which contained all his board games. Had he forgotten what it had meant? Wasn't he supposed to commit himself, like his mother and father had done?

The thought repeats in his head. What was he doing here?

His claws tighten white against the silk of his comforter, more emotion, more awful thoughts racing through his mind until he pushes himself off the bed with a quiet grunt of finality, his earlier stoicism shakily making its way onto his face again. He heads for his private nightstand, gripping and pulling one of the knobs with utmost gentleness, even through the tumultuous feelings boiling in his heart.

Within the drawer, is a letter from father to son, two and a half decades old, dogeared from years of re-reading, yet still whole from a lifetime of princely grace. Once again, Gawain Golden-Feather reads the letter his father wrote to him. Once again, his eyes scan across each line, each handwritten word, the voice of the one griffon he looked up to more than anyone in the whole of the world repeating every syllable in his mind. Once again, he reaches the end, breathing long and deep as he reads the closing statement, of this message from father to son, from king to prince.

"Remember, Gawain, when you choose to draw your sword as King you unleash countless suffering on the world. Yet if there is no better choice, if the cause you fight for is just, if in doing so that pain will pave the way for a brighter future for the children of those who will suffer as I hope this war will for you, then do not hesitate for a moment to draw it!"

He is silent, for a moment, staring at the aged parchment, though he does not read it again. Then, slowly, he rolls it back up, places it with the utmost gentleness back into his drawer, and spins around, towards his room's double door, purpose flaring in each step.

He still has his duties in the Diplomatic Corps, and that duel with Ki. But both have taught him... that it was time to stop running from his guilt. That he had to do something to be worthy of his crown. One way or another, he will be part of the Maretonian Campaign.

It's his Imperial Priority.
 
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The War Room of Mare-a-Thon was never empty, such as it was in the time of civil war. Many high-ranking officers of House Storm conversed around the war table in the center of the room, the specific subjects different yet all related to the current situation:

House White Star was dead or dying, depending on who you asked.

The map on the table showed the tactical situation in Maretonia, upon it were many small wooden models that represented various factions. House Storm, a lightning bolt, the Abolitionists, a broken chain, and House White Star, a star painted in white.

The heist committed by the infamous Hoofbeard had ensured White Star was no longer an equal threat to House Storm, thus all pieces belonging to the dying faction lay on their side or were simply absent. As of this new development in the civil war, many questions and theories were thrown around. Why had he done it? What were his motives? Was he an opportunist who planned this for years or did he do it at someone's behest? Was he working for the accursed Griffons or the simple-minded Abolitionists or perhaps both?

"I do not see why we are even questioning the reasoning," stated Officer Flutterstirke with growing impatience. "He was a pirate who loved the lure of gold and did what any pirate with a sense of competence would have done. He certainly didn't do it for us, but he saw an opportunity, took it, left our enemy in a death-spiral and given us an advantage."

"One that the Abolitionists are not missing," said Officer Gentle Soar. "They take bites out of White Star's territory as we peak."

"As have we," Flutterstirke narrowed her eyes in disdain at the mention of the former slaves. "It does not change the fact they are nothing before our might, without the strength of the so-called Royal Guard, they will not last long."

"That doesn't mean we shouldn't underestimate them, the griffons have been supporting them since the beginning of this war. Supplying them, training them having them ally with Marecinas and the Colleges of Magic-"

"It doesn't change what they are," Flutterstrike sharply interrupted as her mouth twisted into a fierce snarl. "Insane barbarians obsessed with the concept of freedom, to the point that they would have gladly given their lives for it en masse without stopping to think." Flutterstrike turned to glare at the northern border on the map, the one that divided Maretonia and The Crystal Protectorate, yet Gentle Soar didn't have to guess she was looking beyond that somehow. "Without those feathered bastards, their ragtag army would have been ground into dust by now. They should have been dust by now."

Gentle Soar grimly nodded. He could understand her anger, even joined her in it. The offensive committed by all three of their opponents two years ago were still fresh in everypony's mind, yet it was the Abolitionist offensive that stuck out the most. The lingering image of griffon-made cannons unmaking troop formations and fortifications still sent shivers throughout his spine. The painful losses that House Storm suffered were worse, still felt to this day.

At least The Sacking of Roam had easied some of that anger for Gentle Soar, regardless of the losses they suffered. Anyone who wasn't under Pegicles banner got what they rightfully deserved.

"Well…" Gentle Soar chose his next words carefully. "At least we hurt them back just as much, didn't we?"

Flutterstrike's expression did not soften but it did ease somewhat.

"I suppose."

But it's not enough, is what goes unsaid.

Gentle Soar opened his mouth-

"All rise!"

All conversations swiftly turned silent as all heads turned to the doors, there stood a herald wearing the colours of House Storm.

"Presenting the Duke of Mare-A-Thon, Head of House Storm, Breaker of Barbarians and Stormmaker, General Pegicles!"

As the doors opened, all pegasi saluted the one who they would follow to Tartarus. He walked in with his elite bodyguards at his side, wearing practical armour and colours of his House. Pegicles own armour seemed ceremonial at first glance, but if one were to look closer it was no different than that of his own bodyguards. Behind him was a signifier, holding up a vexillum that featured a white lightning bolt on a blue field.

"At ease."

At Pegicles command, all pegasi took their seats around the war table. As the general himself sat at the head of the table, his eyes focused on the territory held by White Star, or more specifically the white star piece that lay on its side.

"So then," he spoke with a hint of amusement. "Duke Haygle and his sycophants have been laid low by a pirate of all things."

"We suspect that Hoofbeard was most likely planning this heist for years, my lord." Spoke Officer Windy Rise. "From what we've heard from Libertalia and various rumour mills, he returned as a conquering hero and is now the wealthiest and most influential pony on that island."

Pegicles nodded at this before looking to the rest of his Officers. "I already know you have all been theorizing the various reasons this Hoofbeard chose to weaken one of our enemies. I commend all of you for taking the inquisitive stance."

Some of the officers preened at the praise, no matter how small it was, before Pegicles spoke again. "However there is something that concerns me, why did he choose to commit this heist now? When he could have done it earlier? Because I believe he did not act on his own will. I believe that somepony ordered him."

"He's working for the Abolitionists." Flutterstirke said with a hoof to her chin and eyes focused on the map. "It makes sense, they reached out to him and with his help, they made Haygle completely powerless." She then snorted begrudgingly. "I would honestly respect a move like that if they weren't barbarians."

Many officers nodded at the assessment before Pegicles spoke again.

"A reasonable conclusion Officer Flutterstrike, but not the correct one." At that Flutterstrike looked to him in confusion.

"...I'm afraid I don't understand sir."

"You believe the Abolitionists used a pirate to remove White Star as a threat, but if that is the case, then why is he now the most popular pony in Libertalia? Unless the Abolitionists have a large reach that we never learned about, they do not have the power to ensure that Hoofbeard fully reaps the benefits of his heist. And do you know why that is?"

Pegicles stared at each and every officer in the room.

"Because the Abolitionists are not our enemies, they never were! Not even House White Star or Marecinas or even the Colleges of Magic could compare to the true barbarian we face!" Pegicles slammed a hoof down on the table. Causing all pieces on it to tremble or fall to the side.

Then, from behind Pegicles bodyguard, an empty-eyed slave came forward, unnoticed until now. In his mouth, he carried a wooden box by a woollen string. He placed the box next to Pegicles on the table, before bowing his head in subservience.

Pegicles pulled the box forward before opening it. He took out a small piece similar to the pieces scattered around the war table and slammed it down on the map.

The piece in question was a griffon's head reared high, with two feathered wings behind it. The very sight caused everypony to scowl in anger, mutter a curse, or let their black hate grow in their hearts even more.

"We have one enemy and it is the Empire of Gryphus."

"Wait… our enemies are all griffons?"

"Always has been," replied Pegicles.

Dark muttering filled the air. To everypony it made sense, it was the griffons that started all their troubles. Was it not them who had blatantly insulted their way of life by stealing their property and placing fear into the hearts of all Maretonians? Which would eventually turn the nobility against one another? Did not the once minuscule Abolitionist movement grow bolder that anypony had ever seen it? You could thank the griffons for that.

Had it not been for any of that, Queen Mareia, the one pony that Pegicles is said to have respected above everypony else, would not be lying in a cold an empty grave.

With her death, Pegicles and all who followed him knew that change must come and only the pegasi of Mare-a-Thon could bring it. Once the civil war was over, a new Maretonia would rise from the ashes and into the sky, one brought about by pegasi hooves and wings.

A new empire to expand across the whole world, whatever the cost.

"I tell you all of this because, after the Siege of Roam, there is no possible way that the Empire of Gryphus will ignore this," stated Pegicles. "They cannot. To do so would be an insult to their very ideals."

"Do you suspect they will invade Maretonia, my lord?" Inquired Gentle Soar, which Pegicles deeply grimaced.

"I certainly hope not, but should the worst come to pass, then we shall simply do what's best," answered Pegicles as he stared forward, always forward.

"I'm afraid I don't understand sir."

"Isn't it obvious?" Pegicles looked at him with cold green eyes and grimly smiled. "Kill as many as we can and rise above their feathered corpses."


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@Questor A/N: Yeah, Pegicles is a maniac who knew? Also, the views shown here are not my views on things.

A great portrayal of House Storm, and a much appreciated addition to the Omake bin.

+15 to a roll.


@Questor Hey, long-time reader, first time omake-er! If you couldn't tell, Gawain's my favorite character, so I've always wanted to make an omake about him. Now, when there seems to be scant few details about what he's up to while something major is going on, I thought it would be the perfect time to go ahead.

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the Gilded Prince and his Gilded Cage

Prince Gawain Golden-Feather looks around at his personal quarters, full of all the opulence and luxury that an empire could provide, and, all too suddenly, feels a dizzying stab of emptiness pulse through his chest.

As he steps in, he stares blankly around himself, at sofas, paintings, curtains... The usual sharpness of his thoughtstream dull, he paces towards his bed, pressing a talon onto the soft comforter. Too soft. He grimaces, his famed stoic visage marred with a hollow-eyed anxiety. He did not climb onto the bed, stuck in this pose, staring at his own claw as it curls into a fist that draws waves of folds across the imperial fabric.

What was he doing here, of all places?

Here, in the northernmost part of the Empire, hundreds of miles from the border south, where, hundreds of miles further, in the heart of a dying country, was a ruin that used to be a capital.

Here, in the Imperial Palace, with his every need tended to, as Griffons and Diamond Dogs and Ponies of every color, every hide, go forth to form the great hammer that was the army of Gryphus, as twenty-five thousand worthy lives give their lifeblood towards the absolution of a land from a tyrant - and that was to make little mention of the countless logisticians, clerks, merchants, smiths, and innumerable other laborers to supply their claws, paws, and hooves.

Here, in a secluded room, the doors shut, as beyond it the highest heads of the Empire perform their administration, giving their every effort towards the organization, the strategy, the direction of the oncoming force; as legendary figures, idols of the citizenry everywhere nonetheless push themselves to the limit, for the sake of saving the lives of those they will never meet... Imperial or Maretonian.

Gawain looks up and around himself again, craning his neck at the too-familiar interior of his room. Guilt and fear flood into his mind like lightning, faster than he can control, as all the treacherous thoughts that he has been keeping at bay are uncorked, here, where no one can see his facade break. He sneers, pressing his other talon onto the bed as he slouches in exhaustion; not physical, but born of stress, his mind replaying all the things he's been hearing over the past few months - every little tick forwards in the clock to the Maretonian Campaign. The posters, the warehouses, Gisa's sudden annoyance with Redbeak... most of all, the faces on Mom and Dad. They were always full of adoration for him and his sisters, and they still are - but now he only gets to see his father as he's drifting from meeting to meeting, counsel to counsel, brow narrowed with the expression Gwyn once joked was his "merchant face".

How heavy must the weight lie on them. All of them. But what was he doing? He was Prince Gawain Golden-Feather of the Empire of Gryphus, Heir to the Lightbringer and agent of the Diplomatic Corps. He should be right in the thick of it, and yet still he felt like he was watching the world through a keyhole in a gilded, opulent, luxurious cage.

He exhales a shaky breath he did not notice he was breathing, trying to reign himself back in, even as his thoughts are drawn to earlier memories.

All his life, Gawain has lived in the shadow of war.

His very birth was punctuated by the battle of Wingbardy, just before Mad King Brochard was beheaded by a war hero - when the Kingdom of Griffonia became the Empire of Gryphus. He spent the last years of his childhood and the first years of his adolescence cowering in fear from the comfort of his palace, as thousands were fed to the monsters of Shadow King Sombra. It was only by the end of it that he first realized what war had truly meant, as he stared into the faces of innocent ponies shaken by trauma and torture. And when he became an adult, he left a potential life spent in scholarship to join the Diplomatic Corps, in order to maintain the peace innumerable beings died for. Like many griffons, he was defined by a war-culture. He prepared for it - board games and tomes of strategy, duels with spear, sword, and shield - nothing compared to an actual training regiment, but he was as military as any griff. It was just the way things had to be.

But now, war threatens to set the world on fire once again, and he was still cowering in its shadow, cowering in his palace. He's almost as old as Dad was when he became king, and still, he felt like that lost child, scared of war.

Hadn't he made a promise to himself, back then? He suddenly turns his head towards a shelf, which contained all his board games. Had he forgotten what it had meant? Wasn't he supposed to commit himself, like his mother and father had done?

The thought repeats in his head. What was he doing here?

His claws tighten white against the silk of his comforter, more emotion, more awful thoughts racing through his mind until he pushes himself off the bed with a quiet grunt of finality, his earlier stoicism shakily making its way onto his face again. He heads for his private nightstand, gripping and pulling one of the knobs with utmost gentleness, even through the tumultuous feelings boiling in his heart.

Within the drawer, is a letter from father to son, two and a half decades old, dogeared from years of re-reading, yet still whole from a lifetime of princely grace. Once again, Gawain Golden-Feather reads the letter his father wrote to him. Once again, his eyes scan across each line, each handwritten word, the voice of the one griffon he looked up to more than anyone in the whole of the world repeating every syllable in his mind. Once again, he reaches the end, breathing long and deep as he reads the closing statement, of this message from father to son, from king to prince.

"Remember, Gawain, when you choose to draw your sword as King you unleash countless suffering on the world. Yet if there is no better choice, if the cause you fight for is just, if in doing so that pain will pave the way for a brighter future for the children of those who will suffer as I hope this war will for you, then do not hesitate for a moment to draw it!"

He is silent, for a moment, staring at the aged parchment, though he does not read it again. Then, slowly, he rolls it back up, places it with the utmost gentleness back into his drawer, and spins around, towards his room's double door, purpose flaring in each step.

He still has his duties in the Diplomatic Corps, and that duel with Ki. But both have taught him... that it was time to stop running from his guilt. That he had to do something to be worthy of his crown. One way or another, he will be part of the Maretonian Campaign.

It's his Imperial Priority.


This. This is what's really amazing to me. That something I made inspired something like this. This is awesome and I wish Omakes like this received more attention, because I genuinely feel that you guys portray the thoughts and feelings of my characters better than I can sometimes. You

I also absolutely love how you referenced other Omakes from earlier in the Quest. I think that's awesome.

+25 to a roll, and the only reason I don't give you more is because it would destabilize the Quest.
 
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Within the drawer, is a letter from father to son, two and a half decades old, dogeared from years of re-reading, yet still whole from a lifetime of princely grace. Once again, Gawain Golden-Feather reads the letter his father wrote to him. Once again, his eyes scan across each line, each handwritten word, the voice of the one griffon he looked up to more than anyone in the whole of the world repeating every syllable in his mind. Once again, he reaches the end, breathing long and deep as he reads the closing statement, of this message from father to son, from king to prince.

"Remember, Gawain, when you choose to draw your sword as King you unleash countless suffering on the world. Yet if there is no better choice, if the cause you fight for is just, if in doing so that pain will pave the way for a brighter future for the children of those who will suffer as I hope this war will for you, then do not hesitate for a moment to draw it!"
Oh my god!

I can't believe someone else actually referenced something I wrote! I remember having an anxiety attack writing that I was so nervous about posting! You have no idea how much you have inflated my ego right now!
 
Why had he done it? What were his motives? Was he an opportunist who planned this for years or did he do it at someone's behest? Was he working for the accursed Griffons or the simple-minded Abolitionists or perhaps both?

weeeeell.... yes :V
stated Officer Flutterstirke with growing impatience
Flutterstrike
left our enemy in a death-spiral and given us an advantage."
gave

They take bites out of White Star's territory as we peak."
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"As have we," Flutterstirke narrowed her eyes
Flutterstrike

without the strength of the so-called Royal Guard, they will not last long
I think the "," is unnecessary here

"That doesn't mean we shouldn't underestimate them
should. Double negation ruins the message.

training them having them ally with Marecinas and the Colleges of Magic
training them, having them...

The offensive committed by all three of their opponents two years ago were still fresh in everypony's mind
offensive was, or offensives were.

"He's working for the Abolitionists." Flutterstirke said with a hoof to her chin
Flutterstrike

would not be lying in a cold an empty grave.
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other than a few mistakes I found this very enjoyable. Pegicles is definitely smart. I wonder if he REALLY cared about Mareia's opinion, or if that was simply something other people believed..

One way or another, he will be part of the Maretonian Campaign.

...but I wanted to send him to Equestria!!:V

Now I'd feel bad doing that!

..well, we could always send Gwindlyn.. she's basically an immortal, and the Alicorns shouldn't have met other ones other than Discord yet...
 
weeeeell.... yes :V

Flutterstrike

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speak


Flutterstrike


I think the "," is unnecessary here


should. Double negation ruins the message.


training them, having them...


offensive was, or offensives were.


Flutterstrike


and


other than a few mistakes I found this very enjoyable. Pegicles is definitely smart. I wonder if he REALLY cared about Mareia's opinion, or if that was simply something other people believed..



...but I wanted to send him to Equestria!!:V

Now I'd feel bad doing that!

..well, we could always send Gwindlyn.. she's basically an immortal, and the Alicorns shouldn't have met other ones other than Discord yet...
Changes made, thanks for helping!
 
I've been considering matters and come to the realization that maybe we could deal with the Maretonian aftermath in a different manner.

The "High Functioning" omake finally gave direction for me to look for.


I think we can all agree that the Maretonian Kingdom on their own isn't responsible for the great devastation brought to the people living in it. We can easily point out Pegicles and Mare-A-Thon's pegasus legions as the culprits behind most of what has happened.
More on that point, I doubt the rest of Maretonia will ever forget the horrors the legion brought upon their former countrymen. They might be angry if they lose land to Griffonia, but I believe they would be quite fine with the survivors of those that mass murdered them get moved to... somewhere else.

With all that in mind, let us leave Maretonia under the control of their own people.



But we will occupy and annex or vassalize Mare-A-Thon - The flying city - and relocate it to the lands of Griffonia and/or Crystal Protectorate.



After all, they have proven themselves unable to be trusted to marshal their own armies and self-rule, without them immediately going and devastating their own nation.

If Mare-A-Thon leaves, it isn't like Maretonia won't be able to build a new flying city, right?
Albeit building one likely takes at least decades and possibly information that traditionally only belonged to the pegasi nobles/weather masters, meaning we will likely need to help them if they wish to once more wield weather control for their kingdom's benefit.

We don't need the land, so we will leave it for Maretonia proper and the Abolitionists to do as they see fit, and take away a policing issue that the new government would have to content with - including protecting the city's populace from retaliation by the rest of Maretonia, or keeping militants from rising up against the nation once more.

We have a large surplus of grain that we routinely transport around the world. In fact, we are the current breadbasket of grain for the known world. We could feed the city with ease, even before any potential increase in productivity by pegasus lessening droughts and calming the more violent storms is taken into account.


What we get, is a single city - a very militant city with proud traditions and military-focused culture yes, but still a single population center needing occupation until sympathizers from Abolitionist ranks, refugees and immigrant pegasus, or if we get enough enchanted equipment/spellcasters so griffons can start living in the city themselves without many problems, can be properly placed in charge of the city.

If we can't be able to control a single city under control as we assimilate the populace into our equally military-focused nations, we wouldn't stand a chance integrating Maretonia in the first place. There wouldn't be administrative lag from distance, for Mare-A-Thon would be located within our current borders. The city would also be surrounded by our lands if they did decide to try booking it, which would lead to a very painful gang-up.

In return, we gain a reasonably sized pegasus population, with likely many of their fighting aged ponies culled by the war.
I hope that some pegasus military traditions will survive the war in this case, instead of them dying out in a large stand with Pegicles.

A magical center of learning regarding weather control has likely been a requirement by design, meaning access to another avenue of magical research and exploitation.

Further, I doubt every single pegasi in the city has 100% pure pegasus lineage: ponies can give birth to ponies from other tribes if their ancestors aren't all of the same tribe.
Non-pegasi ponies will be born. Unicorns and Earth Ponies will slowly trickle down and mix with our refugee populations, some of which will likely stay in the Empire even after the end of civil war. Even if limited in number, this further increases our magically capable pops.



Further, all of this fits our narrative in a sort of way.

We didn't conquer Maretonia which fought against the madness of Pegicles, we conquered the city of Mare-a-Thon, which willingly* supported his actions which destroyed homes, towns and farms of their own countrymen using weapons of mass destruction, all so their own liege might rule them all with an blood-covered spear.
We are taking control because these people clearly need to be shown the right path forward, as well as punishing them for their crimes by vassalizing/annexing them.

Maretonia on the other hand would likely already have their hoofs full. Would the Abolitionists and whatever else rises from the ashes want to try dealing with the tensions Pegicles has brought?

*Sure, challenging Pegicles would've likely led to the naysayers death, but the armies of the tyrant have clearly been loyal for more reasons than just fear.


So, to recap:

Griffonia gains:

- Annexed and relocated Mare-A-Thon.
-- In time, Pegasus citizen and access to a population with knowledge and skill over weather control, which can enrich Griffonian agriculture even further.
-- Potential future pegasus military units and weaponized weather manipulation.
-- A source of other pony-pops during the future decades/centuries.
- Leaves Maretonia proper for Maretonians, letting us have gains without looking like invaders.
- Pushes for the narrative that we didn't jump into the war so we could take over Maretonia.
-- Griffons joined the war because the line had been crossed and the perpetrators had to stopped.
-- Griffons focused their wrath and gathered recompense from the perpetrators, not the nation hosting them.
- No increased administrative costs from ruling from distance.

What problems it leaves us with:
- Policing and annexing a single city state.
- Needing to find solutions for ruling a city where a normal griffon can't land without magical assistance.




@Questor

For what we know thanks to our pegasus contacts in the Abolitionists, Merlin and our other magic experts in Griffonia: is relocating Mare-A-Thon to Griffonia possible (asking if there is a practical reason why the city wouldn't be able to move over Griffonia if controlled)?

Are there magical upkeep concerns we would need to meet in order to keep the city operational if it can get there?
 
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I don't like it, mostly because I have admittedly become invested in the protectorate/annexation idea, but I also see a couple of big problems about this idea.

1) according to quest canon, gryphons can't naturally walk on cloud I think. All the magic we have as a racial trait (if that even counts) is whatever allows us to fly... and maybe super-strenght/skill for Hardbeak level characters :p

That means that any gryphon wanting to live in this cloud city would need some kind of permanent enchantment, either unicorn or rune based, to live there.

2) This sounds a bit too much like discriminating against the pegasi personally, though I suppose there's some basis for that in this specific situation.

3) We're going to have to fund Maretonia quite a bit if we want them to recover in a decent timeframe, and both we and our people,be they common citizens or nobles, will want a return on this investment.

4) I think in some ways this is even worse than protectorate annexation, depending on how you look at it. We'd be basically stealing a city with ALL of its inhabitants after all.

but, admittedly, for me it's mostly that I don't like the idea much and want to go protectorate route (though I'm waiting to see the post-war scenario before really committing to anything. Level of approval and relative status for the remaining factions might change what the optimal plan would be after all
 
I don't like it, mostly because I have admittedly become invested in the protectorate/annexation idea, but I also see a couple of big problems about this idea.

1) according to quest canon, gryphons can't naturally walk on cloud I think. All the magic we have as a racial trait (if that even counts) is whatever allows us to fly... and maybe super-strenght/skill for Hardbeak level characters :p

That means that any gryphon wanting to live in this cloud city would need some kind of permanent enchantment, either unicorn or rune based, to live there.

2) This sounds a bit too much like discriminating against the pegasi personally, though I suppose there's some basis for that in this specific situation.

3) We're going to have to fund Maretonia quite a bit if we want them to recover in a decent timeframe, and both we and our people,be they common citizens or nobles, will want a return on this investment.

4) I think in some ways this is even worse than protectorate annexation, depending on how you look at it. We'd be basically stealing a city with ALL of its inhabitants after all.

but, admittedly, for me it's mostly that I don't like the idea much and want to go protectorate route (though I'm waiting to see the post-war scenario before really committing to anything. Level of approval and relative status for the remaining factions might change what the optimal plan would be after all
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I talked about this. I admitted it as a problem that needed solving. Did you read that?

2) We aren't discriminating against Pegasi, it just happens that Mare-a-Thon is 100% pegasi thanks to the city being a cloud city.

3) I would think a conquered city with unique opportunities would mellow them out, rather than going the whole "we shall vassalize everything, including this city".

4. In effect, we would be splintering a small piece of Maretonia for us to rule, this is true. Still, if we continue supporting the nation and don't start demanding further concessions it would be easier to swallow, since the ones that paid the full prize were the ones that nuked their homes and families, sending their people into destitution.
Many of those hurt were pegasus... pegasi? As well - but I would be real cash that a Mare-a-Thonian won't be safe while in public around other non-MaT Maretonians for at least decades. I think even fellow pegasi would be wondering if they might get away with shanking that MaT in a dark alley.

Forcing the whole civilization into a protectorate arrangement seems just too hostile for me, when this could be a more palatable alternative.
 
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We invested so much money in building our armies and fortresses and this war is likely to be hard on the gryphons

I really dont see why people dont want to take over maretonia given the population boom our country is suffering or soon will come to suffer and we since maretonia is just adjacent to the empire of gryphus it practically screams annex me

Besides if we win we hold both carrot and stick we can easily appease any ill will by helping them

Even our allies cannot protest as maretonia is a slavery endorsing state and our allies know our military superiority towards them and they wouldnt want to earn our ire

Besides there is only a limited no of times in which we can expand our empire

Also their culture is dying and the abolition of slavery will be the last straw which would cause their culture to crumble
During which we can step in and create our own culture or influence greatly to our benefit

Also what would a common gryphon would think of us as we are using the taxes they pay and lives they risk ro basically act like a charity group , they understood the sombra situation but i don think they would be happy if they dont see maretonia annexed after the lives of their comrades are sacrificed
 
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We invested so much money in building our armies and fortresses and this war is likely to be hard on the gryphons

I really dont see why people dont want to take over maretonia given the population boom our country is suffering or soon will come to suffer and we since maretonia is just adjacent to the empire of gryphus it practically screams annex me
Because we might damage our reputation making them wholly a protectorate, never mind outright annexation?

EDIT: also, their culture ain't "dying."
 
Because we might damage our reputation making them wholly a protectorate, never mind outright annexation?

EDIT: also, their culture ain't "dying."
Our reputation can always be mended
Maretonia is in a state of devastation and if we invest enough to rebuild maretonia and improve it with our technology our reputation will be even higher than before

Also their culture is dying as without slavery their primary driving force behind their cultures economy is eliminated

Also the abolitionists after learning of how our empire helped to improve the crystal protectorate will try to instill gryphon culture in maretonia

Also if we dont annex them there is also the possibility if them becoming our enemies in the future

So our best bet is annexation

Edit: also abolitionist faction even though militarily weaker have a greater population level which works to our advantage, they dont care about who rules them as long as they improve their lives and condemn slavery so their best bet is to accept our rule
 
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Listen were gonna annex or protectorate them sorry to those who don't want to but it's gonna happen. No we're not gonna take and kind of truly detrimental reputation hit because and I can't stress this enough NO ONE CARES ABOUT MARETONIA. And it's more land for us which news flash that's what happened in this time period so yes we're taking the land. Since I don't see much more expansion options after this.
 
Listen were gonna annex or protectorate them sorry to those who don't want to but it's gonna happen. No we're not gonna take and kind of truly detrimental reputation hit because and I can't stress this enough NO ONE CARES ABOUT MARETONIA. And it's more land for us which news flash that's what happened in this time period so yes we're taking the land. Since I don't see much more expansion options after this.
I completely agree ,not to mention the various trade routes naval strategic positions mineral and agricultural resources annexation could bring

Besides kingdom of canterbury supports us in this endeavour
 
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Assuming after the annexation
When white star or house storm members start to protest or act against our empire
We can sick the abolitionists on them who would want revenge
So former white star or house storm members would have to seek our protection and asylum to be safe
And we can coax ambrosia the leader of the aboilitionists along with countess copper top into becoming nobles in our empire which would further cement the abolitionists with us
 
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I'd prefer "vassalization" over "annexation", simply because then it is less our problem but they still pay us money and we get to halp them after their civil war. It's also less threatening to everyone as it is... Less, of a land grab.
And it kind of salves the pride of those who live there.
 
I'd prefer "vassalization" over "annexation", simply because then it is less our problem but they still pay us money and we get to halp them after their civil war. It's also less threatening to everyone as it is... Less, of a land grab.
And it kind of salves the pride of those who live there.
Ok agreeable but either way we should look for the way which would benefit our empire the most and vassaliation also could undermine the ability of maretonia to embrace a sense of being part of our empire and would still maintain maretonia as a separate entity which has come under our rule
 
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Ok agreeable but either way we should look for the way which would benefit our empire the most and vassaliation also could undermine the ability of maretonia to embrace a sense of being part of our empire and would still maintain maretonia as a separate entity which has come under our rule
It's so far from our homelands that that is kind of inevitable. Best to leave them with their sense of self.
 
It's so far from our homelands that that is kind of inevitable. Best to leave them with their sense of self.
If we annex the crystal protectorate that might become wrong soon
We only have to make sure that people of maretonia love us and we can use our intelligence network and secret service to make people who protest against annexation disappear
And secretly influence enough to instill our culture and weed out theirs with subtlety
 
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We could also maybe get Equestria involved? I mean, it looks like Celestia and Luna are interested in reuniting the lost territory back together.
 
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